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OK. I think that is fertilizer/salt damage. From personal experience killing 20 or so young mango trees, it does takes months for the damage to show, and the leaf drop and burnt leaf margins are exactly what I experienced. I talked to Dr Richard Campbell about it, and he said that mango trees are super sensitive to ammonia, which is more heavily present in some nitrogen sources than others. He said that the best way to kill a young mango tree is to plant it with a fish, since the fish will eventually rot and release ammonia.
Patrick is correct about the mulch. It has a pretty significant impact.
I have purchased two LZ's now. One from Spykes Grove over a year ago, my first one, and a second two months ago from Excalibur in Palm Beach where they had an entire row of them. I pulled out my first tree, cut it way back, and now have it in a pot. It put out some new growth and looks okay for now. The second tree has the same look to it as the first. A very light green to the leaves and it does not look at all hardy like any of my other trees. It put out it's first wimpy flush two weeks ago after the rains. I loose more leafs off them than other varieties I have. The two trees have an identical look to them....which is not very healthy. My neighbor has one, and although it has done better than mine, it is the least vigorous of his 15 mango tree varieties.Although I have heard people say the manos are fantastic.....I don't think I would recommend this variety to anyone else. It lacks vigor/disease resistance. A poor grower.
I have purchased two LZ's now. One from Spykes Grove over a year ago, my first one, and a second two months ago from Excalibur in Palm Beach where they had an entire row of them. I pulled out my first tree, cut it way back, and now have it in a pot. It put out some new growth and looks okay for now. The second tree has the same look to it as the first. A very light green to the leaves and it does not look at all hardy like any of my other trees. It put out it's first wimpy flush two weeks ago after the rains. I loose more leafs off them than other varieties I have. The two trees have an identical look to them....which is not very healthy. My neighbor has one, and although it has done better than mine, it is the least vigorous of his 15 mango tree varieties. Although I have heard people say the manos are fantastic.....I don't think I would recommend this variety to anyone else. It lacks vigor/disease resistance. A poor grower.
QuoteI have purchased two LZ's now. One from Spykes Grove over a year ago, my first one, and a second two months ago from Excalibur in Palm Beach where they had an entire row of them. I pulled out my first tree, cut it way back, and now have it in a pot. It put out some new growth and looks okay for now. The second tree has the same look to it as the first. A very light green to the leaves and it does not look at all hardy like any of my other trees. It put out it's first wimpy flush two weeks ago after the rains. I loose more leafs off them than other varieties I have. The two trees have an identical look to them....which is not very healthy. My neighbor has one, and although it has done better than mine, it is the least vigorous of his 15 mango tree varieties.Although I have heard people say the manos are fantastic.....I don't think I would recommend this variety to anyone else. It lacks vigor/disease resistance. A poor grower. I have had mine about 2 years now, and looks the same as when I got it. still in a 3 gallon pot. in that period it only flushed once.a Kesar I got in October last year has twice as much growth on it than my LZ that that is at least two years older.Note both trees start as bare rooted and leafless when I transport them. I think I will start doing foliar sprays on it, maybe move it into another pot, see if I can kick it into gear.
Are you sure that tree is a lemon zest? It has very dark leaves like a Carrie or a Cogshall. I have not seen any LZ's at Excaliburs in the long rows that have leaves that look like that.
Looks characteristic of LZ to me. There's an easy way to tell: smell the sap. If it's LZ it will have sap that smells like citrus. Few mango trees have this characteristic. Make a small slice in one of the baby fruits and sap will come out. New leaves also have enough sap to be smelled.Quote from: Tim-N-Plantation-FL on June 19, 2013, 12:33:06 PMAre you sure that tree is a lemon zest? It has very dark leaves like a Carrie or a Cogshall. I have not seen any LZ's at Excaliburs in the long rows that have leaves that look like that.
Can anyone here give me the roundabout size of what LZ will grow too? I'm really stretching space on my property and would rather not grow a tree along the fence line and invade the neighbors property. I was hoping I could plant contain it within 15-20 ft....is this possible?
Jeff after reading this thread from page 1....Looks like I'll be lucky to reach 10 feet in 20 years with the LZ Growing habit...Especially in My Zone 9b SOCAL....I'm more valley/Desert than say San Diego which lives in 70/80 degree paradise year round....Our Sumers our identical to Central Florida without the rain and Humidity........I'm going to Mulch my ass off, compost about 5 foot hole blend to help this Clay....Hope for the best...I'm hearing some horror stories from Florida growers...
Quote from: ClayMango on January 07, 2014, 08:23:21 PMJeff after reading this thread from page 1....Looks like I'll be lucky to reach 10 feet in 20 years with the LZ Growing habit...Especially in My Zone 9b SOCAL....I'm more valley/Desert than say San Diego which lives in 70/80 degree paradise year round....Our Sumers our identical to Central Florida without the rain and Humidity........I'm going to Mulch my ass off, compost about 5 foot hole blend to help this Clay....Hope for the best...I'm hearing some horror stories from Florida growers...My LZ is around 10 ft already in under 3 years. I don't think it will take you 20 years, even in SoCal.