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any ideas ??






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leaves look a little like muntingia, but, its not.

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Have: Muntingia seedlings (3 to 8 inches tall)
guava seedlings (all sizes) , loquat seedlings (1yr+)


WANT: Inga Feuillei seedlings, or seeds
or
loquat scions (improved variety)
Feijoa scions (improved variety)

looking for Nance , cambuca, and Phalsa plants.
prefer 1 to 3 gallon, but would consider seedlings, or possibly seeds ?
(if i cant find plants)

can purchase, or trade.

So i have been keeping a distance from Annonas
as i am not sure of the cold tolerance, and hearing about problems with pollination.

I am now thinking of taking the plunge.
but, have no idea what to get.
Im in New Orleans zone 9a/9b ish

Toptrops has some for sale now
and i dont know which one to get ?
i would love something that has a long fruiting season.
and hardy ...

Here are the choices at Toptrops
though, happy to look elsewhere if someone has one better.

suggestions ?

Annona reticulata - Custard Apple, seedling
 $39.95

 Annona reticulata - Red Custard Apple var. Tobago Pink
$49.95

 Annona Kampong Mauve - Red Sugar Apple
$74.95

https://toptropicals.com/cgi-bin/garden_catalog/cat.cgi?uid=Annona_reticulata

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 Annona cherimola x A. squamosa - Atemoya Lisa (48-26)
$44.95
https://toptropicals.com/cgi-bin/garden_catalog/cat.cgi?uid=Annona_atemoya

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Annona squamosa - Vietnam Sugar Apple Na Di
$54.95

Annona squamosa var. Thai-Lessard, Green Sugar Apple
$44.95

https://toptropicals.com/cgi-bin/garden_catalog/cat.cgi?uid=Annona_squamosa

curious if anyone is growing this
or knows about it ?
The website says you need male and female for seed
but, the edible part are "finger like structures"... does that mean they need to be pollinated
or, can you get fruit from all trees, or just females, or ??

frost ? (PFAF says zone 9 - 12)

http://tropical.theferns.info/viewtropical.php?id=Cecropia+peltata

http://www.pfaf.org/user/Plant.aspx?LatinName=Cecropia+peltata

https://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/Cecropia_peltata.htm

Ive had very limited luck finding places that carry things lke
bignay, Nance, peanut butter fruit, Kwai Muk etc...

at least no place carries them, i can find,  that ships
moreover, i really want 7gal plants, but will take 3gal
if thats all i can find.

I have used PIN and Top Tropicals in the past
PIN has a limited selection, and doesnt ship anything over 3-gal.
I like Top-trops, they often have larger plants, and while the website
might show "Bignay", (or others), they are often not in stock.

Also, as far as Bignay goes
my understanding is there are grafted plants that fruit ?
Some sources say you need a male and female.
right ?

i love papaya, and only had a couple of plants that made it through the winter.
i took 1 potted plant and added it to a mound i made for a Blood Orange.
i added an Aloe i had as well.

i had gotten 3 yards of soil high in organic matter.
i added coffee grounds and mixed with local soil.
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Papaya plant i had in a container that made it through the winter
even though i failed to get it in the greenhouse.




This is a pic of the local soil, mixed with aged grounds




aged grounds




This is a Blood-Orange and an Aloe Vera...  i made a mound for the 3 plants.






Just had to post a pic of my Jabo that is putting out lots of new growth...
colors are pretty striking
also, a mango that made it through the winter ( i lost a few)
and a Cedar Bay Cherry


 


and a large bag of coffee grounds i get from  Starbucks weekly.



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Grumichama

Grumichama i got from Sykes Tropicals. Only place i could find that had a 7 gal Grumi
and would ship it.
I had cut down a large tree in the backyard, and used some of the cut trunk as borders.
its a bit chlorotic looking
hopefully a bit of iron and epsom salts will help that.
The soil i had bought (3 yards originally) i mixed with some local soil
its very high in organic matter, and i spent 20 mins taking out bits of wood chunks.







Grumi roots

The plant was root bound. bad.
it took another 20 mins to tease out the roots
glad i did.
i didnt think to take a pic until after i was already into teasing them out
but i think you can still see the difference.

Interesting which plants pulled through
and the size /age of the tree making it more hardy...






PDF

http://fshs.org/proceedings-o/1963-vol-76/374-377%20(SNOW).pdf

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http://fshs.org/proceedings-o/1958-vol-71/341-344%20(LEDIN).pdf

Since Psidium varieties are back on the forum i thought i would try and get a consensus
 of what these plants IDs are

one of them may actually not even be Psidium ? (maybe M. Pugens?)

aalso to note
the strange growth pattern on the 2nd plant
i am sure the frost had something to do with it.
but the leaf growth is coming from the trunk, and not making new stems.

both plants were just subject to 26F to 28F temps.
(a few weeks ago)


click for larger pics.







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plant #2






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this is an older pic of plant #2

So ive been finding a few plants in the garden
i have no idea what they are.
Very possible they are seeds i planted 1 or 2 or 3 years ago
seedling soil was composted, and they ended up in the garden.

anyway...

any ideas / suggestions are welcome...

first plant...
i initially thought this was West Indian Elm ?
but, i have no idea now...
THere is a 2nd seedling that is identical, but smaller...







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2nd plant








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3rd plant





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4th planjt

this is not the same plant as #3
but it looks like the same family ... ?






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5th and last plant

its looks a little like Loquat, but, i dont think it is.
usually, loquat leaves get darker with age, even in seedlings.

Anyone ever try the fruit from Elaeagnus ebbingei ?

Or, has anyone grafted Elaeagnus  ?

I got 2 plants from Home Despot last year (3gal) for $2 each
they are already putting out fruit, and they have turned red, and not astringent anymore.
But, the fruit have very little flesh.
the seed is very woody, though i chew on it a bit and spit it out.
 
Or, is this normal to have this little flesh, and be oblong ?
from pics i thought the Autumn olive and goumi fruits were more roundish
and had more flesh on them ?

I am hoping to either buy a So Shan (E Latifolia) or grow some from seed.
the seed project isnt going to well though.

anyone familiar with this fruit
or, where i can get seeds ??

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KAPHAL
(Myrica nagi)
A tree of kaphal in forest
Synonyms: Myrica esculenta, Myrica farquhariana, Myrica sapida
English name: Box myrtle
The tree yields a drupaceous fruit which is one of the tastiest wild fruits of the sub-Himalayan region. This fruit tree carries a lot of commercial importance and every year its fruits worth thousands of rupees are sold in different towns of Himachal Pradesh. These fruits are very much liked by all.

Utilization

The small seedy fruits of kaphal are very much liked by all for their taste and juiciness. Huge quantities of this wild fruit are picked by the villagers from the forests and sold in towns. The fruits easily sell 4 to 5 rupees a kg. Every year the fruit of this tree, worth thousands of rupees, is sold in towns. It is a good source of extra income for the villagers.



Kaphal fruits being sold at Mandi town in India.

            The fruits, unfortunately, are not good keepers and their shelf-life does not exceed 2-3 days. As already mentioned under chemical composition, these fruits are fairly juicy and the percentage of extractable juice is about 40 per cent. The juice has a very attractive sparkling red colour. Efforts should be made to standardize a technique for its utilization.

            The major problem in the case of this fruit is that the harvesting period is too long and fruits from a single tree have to be harvested in many pickings. However, this is the only cost involved in the case of this fruit, the numerous trees bearing which are growing wild in the forests. This cost can, therefore, be overlooked.

            Kaphal is a tall and spreading evergreen tree. It should be very useful in avenue plantation in the hills. Besides providing shade and ornamental look, it will. also yield fruit.

            The small seedy fruits of kaphal are very much liked by all for their taste and juiciness. Huge quantities of this wild fruit are picked by the villagers from the forests and sold in towns. Every year the fruit of this tree, worth thousands of rupees, is sold in towns. It is a good source of extra income for the villagers.

            The fruits, unfortunately, are not good keepers and their shelf-life does not exceed 2-3 days. As already mentioned under chemical composition, these fruits are fairly juicy and the percentage of extractable juice is about 40 per cent. The juice has a very attractive sparkling red colour. Efforts should be made to standardize a technique for its utilization.

            Another problem in the case of this fruit is that the harvesting period is too long and fruits from a single tree have to be harvested in many pickings. However, this is the only cost involved in the case of this fruit, the numerous trees bearing which are growing wild in the forests. This cost can, therefore, be overlooked.

            Kaphal is a handsome spreading evergreen tree. It should a suitable avenue plant in the hills. Besides providing shade and ornamental look, it will also yield fruit.

 
http://www.fruitipedia.com/kaphal.htm