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Citrus General Discussion / Kao Nun pummelo second to none?
« on: April 12, 2024, 07:23:33 PM »
Has anyone tried this pomelo available from the CCPP?  They probably got the name wrong.  Seems like there was a mix up according to their description.  Pics look nice and possibly tasty.

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My guineense from seeds I got on ebay years ago sucked.  Small and bad tasting fruit.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Cocktail Grapefruit
« on: April 01, 2024, 12:27:37 AM »
If it was a supermarket pummelo, my guess would be Chandler.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Cocktail Grapefruit
« on: March 31, 2024, 09:58:06 PM »
Interesting Tony #1 looks huge.  What do you think are the parents?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Cocktail Grapefruit
« on: March 31, 2024, 06:12:34 PM »
Kaz, why don't you donate some original Cocktail wood to CCPP so they can stop spreading that sucky bud mutation.  I already told Rock at CCPP about the different Cocktails in 2019.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Cocktail Grapefruit
« on: March 31, 2024, 06:06:46 PM »
Then there's possibly two versions of Cocktail citrus out there and CCPP likely has the inferior one. 
Good to know your original Cocktail is better than CCPP Chironja.  Maybe Puerto Rico has a better Chironja.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Cocktail Grapefruit
« on: March 31, 2024, 03:32:04 PM »
Here's my original post that Kaz's answer is for:

Kaz, do you have the smaller thin skinned version of Cocktail?  I planted a cocktail grapefruit bought from a local nursery after tasting some from the supermarket that were delicious and were large orange size with thin skin.  The fruits from my tree turn out much larger with thicker skin and didn't taste good, so I decided to graft Cocktail budwood from CCPP and unfortunately these turn out the same as my tree.  After the fifth year of disappointing fruit I chopped it down.  Maybe there was a Cocktail bud mutation at some point at the CCPP.

On a positive note, the Rojo Blanco turned out super flavorful for me.  High acid and high sugar with low bitterness in the skin.  It refused to grow for the first two years on Seville Sour, but grew quickly grafted on C-22.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Cocktail Grapefruit
« on: March 31, 2024, 03:30:22 PM »
That #2 is a Cocktail fruit right? Not Valentine.
How is the Chironja compared to Cocktail?  I grafted the CRC 4045/VI 559 Chironja version on Seville Sour and chopped it off due to bad granulation.
Any worthwhile citrus that has granulation issues I just re-graft it to C-22 because C22 is even better than Seville Sour for Arizona calcareous soil.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Cocktail Grapefruit
« on: March 31, 2024, 03:24:10 PM »
Yes, that's what the yummy cocktail fruit form the supermarket looked like!  My tree had fruits that looked more like oroblanco in size and skin thickness, but full of cocktail seeds and lacking flavor.  That just blows my mind that the interstock/rootstock can make that much of a difference.  I don't think there many other citrus with this severe of a difference.  Rare exception of a citrus that doesn't taste better on sour orange rootstock.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: My Marumi kumquat tastes so good.
« on: March 30, 2024, 08:18:26 PM »
I have a old (30yrs) Cocktail grapefruit that has very large and tasty fruits, this tree always has large (3-4" long) thorns every time I trim it back from 20 ft down to 10f. The trunk on this tree is about 10" diameter. Good thing about thorns is it will keep the rats and squirels from climbing the tree to get to the fruits.
Kaz, do you have the smaller thin skinned version of Cocktail?  I planted a cocktail grapefruit bought from a local nursery after tasting some from the supermarket that were delicious and were large orange size with thin skin.  The fruits from my tree turn out much larger with thicker skin and didn't taste good, so I decided to graft Cocktail budwood from CCPP and unfortunately these turn out the same as my tree.  After the fifth year of disappointing fruit I chopped it down.  Maybe there was a Cocktail bud mutation at some point at the CCPP.

On a positive note, the Rojo Blanco turned out super flavorful for me.  High acid and high sugar with low bitterness in the skin.  It refused to grow for the first two years on Seville Sour, but grew quickly grafted on C-22.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Kinnow mandarin low seed variety
« on: March 09, 2024, 09:47:32 PM »
That's very cool!

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I got 4 out of 5 C-22 cuttings to root.  I didn't give them the most stable environment. Sometime it was too hot and sometime a bit dry, but they got plenty of grow light. 
My C-22 sucker is pushing new growth now.  I can give a some cuttings in the summer.  Let me know if you want some.

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Psidium guinense x: A potential hybrid guinense species. Species confirmed by Leslie Landrum, who believes it to be a guinense or possible hybrid of.  Fruit was delicious. Very nice tart/sweet ratio with only a couple of seeds and lots of flesh! A really beautiful and low growing, but slow plant. Large showy  flowers and absolutely something I want to grow a lot more of.


Looks kinda like P. australe or what Marcos calls Hybrid Araza.

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One of two C22 cuttings I started around Xmas rooted.  I just used a tall low budget seedling propagation dome and peat plugs and Clonex gel.

Does growing citrus rootstock from cuttings rather than seed affect its vigor etc.? I've heard that air layering mango for example produces a very week plant.

When you root cuttings of a fruit variety that's grown for the fruit and not for rootstock, then it's no surprise if it's weaker than a seedling, but cuttings of a rootstock variety like C-22 may be fine.  For example: an air layer of Lemon Zest may be weak, but an air layer of a Turpentine branch may be strong.

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I have a 4 years in the ground Chislett navel orange.  This is the second year it's set fruit and it's already very good.  It's tastier than Washington and almost as good as Cara Cara.

It might be the best late navel variety according the UC research.  Much later season than the popular Lane Late navel and less granulation problems.  My experience is it's tastier and more productive than Frost Washington navel.  Also it's juice won't turn bitter like Washington due to lower limonin!  The only drawback like Cara Cara is that it's harder to peel.

Too bad some nursery bought the exclusive rights to it in the US, so CCPP can't offer it's budwood anymore.  Does anyone know if these rights expire?  If so, When?

Has anyone tried the patented Kinnow LS and Fairchild LS mandarin varieties?  They were available from CCPP for a short time years ago.  According to google patent search, their patents expire around 2030.  I was lucky to get Daisy Seedless wood from CCPP before they sold the license.  It is excellent and very low seeded.

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That's a possibility. I've only grown one air layered Seville sour orange for rootstock and it grew well here. 
This UF research video seems to says no difference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKOxEyxbNno&t=5505s

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One of two C22 cuttings I started around Christmas rooted.  I just used a tall low budget seedling propagation dome and peat plugs and Clonex gel.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Very puffy Kishu mandarins
« on: February 05, 2024, 06:51:35 AM »
Yes, I should pick them earlier next year to see.

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Citrus General Discussion / Kinnow mandarin low seed variety
« on: January 19, 2024, 05:29:30 AM »
Is anyone growing the Kinnow LS variety?  Is it good?
I have Daisy low seed version.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Tarocco#7 same as Tarocco or not?
« on: January 03, 2024, 09:15:14 PM »
Kaz, me no like seeds :P

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Very puffy Kishu mandarins
« on: January 03, 2024, 09:12:47 PM »
Salustiana is an orange I don't hear anything about, But it's been an excellent orange for me in Phoenix AZ. 
It's my most heat and cold tolerant orange and very vigorous.  It bears heavily and consistently every year and earlier than most.
Just to compare it to some well know oranges:
It's earlier and more heat resistant than Frost Washington.
More cold hardy, peelable and seedless than Valencia.
More seedless and tasty than Trovita.

It's a blonde fleshed orange with good flavor and balance that's excellent for juicing and also peelable.  Did I mention how tough it is?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Tarocco#7 same as Tarocco or not?
« on: January 03, 2024, 08:34:34 PM »
My huge Tarocco tree was from a local nursery that grow their own trees on Seville Sour rootstock.  They just call it Tarocco and taste very good with decent color.  They probably don't even know what #7 is, so it could be Thermal or something older than Thermal like the original Italian Tarocco??  Anyway I'm going to graft a #7 and find out.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Very puffy Kishu mandarins
« on: January 01, 2024, 07:49:03 PM »
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Can I ask which trees tolerated the heat well? I live north of you but we are only a little cooler than you with summers over a hundred for almost 4 months reaching to 114 sometimes. My problem is I also need cold hardy varieties to make impart the winter.

I think many mandarins would do well for you especially Kinnow, Encore and Lee&Nova.  Orlando, Gold Nugget and Tango should be good too.  For oranges I would go with  Salustiana, Trovita, Washington and Moro.  Calamondin and limequats are a good substitude for lemon and lime if it's too cold for Meyer lemon.   Hirado Buntan, Valentine and Mato Buntan are more heat and cold hardy than other pomelos /pummelos.  Why do we need two ways to spell Citrus maxima?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Very puffy Kishu mandarins
« on: January 01, 2024, 07:34:15 PM »
greenfieldcitrus.com/index.htm has good info on citrus varieties including sun sensitivity.
In my own experience I would list general categories in this order for most heat tolerance to least:

lemons (also tolerant of most rootstocks even in AZ soil 8+pH)
sour oranges
limes
other sweet oranges
valencias
blood oranges
tangelos
grapefruit
pummelos
navel oranges
madarins
satsumas
kumquats

For cold hardiness I think generaly:
satsumas>=Gold Nugget>=other mandarins
navel oranges>blood oranges>=other oranges>valencias
tangelos>=oranges>grapefruit>=pummelos
oranges>Meyer lemon>finger limes>=lemons>limes






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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Is this a Wekiwa or did CCPP screw me over?
« on: December 30, 2023, 03:10:56 PM »
Maybe I should. But I got 30 other varieties from them that were correct.  This is the only wrong one and it was grafted some years ago.

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