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Talked to the Fort Bend County ag agent today. They will be having a
meeting next week with Texas Dept of Agriculture and let me know what the
latest plan is for selling citrus.

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They will need time to build them.

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They could also require in TX propagation of citrus trees in screen houses like in Florida.
I don't expect that. The regulation of citrus tree growing in Tx is nearly non-existent.
Now, California really is serious about regulation of crops. I remember being stopped at the California
border with Oregon on I5 and asked if I had any fruit in my car. Nothing like that exists in Texas.

BTW, the way psyllids and greening got into TX is likely by way of Indian Curry leaf trees imported from Florida
before it was recognized that ICL could support psyllids.

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Bad but could be worse. Severe freezes kill the psyllids. Psyllids appeared on my trees in Beaumont one spring and what a pain they are. The next winter with a severe
freeze killed them off so I had no psyllids the next year. We have severe freezes here in the Houston area. Best solution IMHO would be to prohibit shipping citrus trees from the Valley which doesn't get severe freezes to areas that do. BTW there is a HUGE wholesale
nursery in Orange County, TX 100 miles east of Houston that could provide all the trees the Houston
area could ever want. Saxon Bechnel nursery is growing more than 1,000,000 trees, enough to  flood the market for the entire state of Tx. I understand that the propagation of citrus trees in Florida has moved north, perhaps for the same reason.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Miewa Kumquat
« on: June 18, 2014, 11:29:35 PM »
Sorry to hijack this thread, but can anyone give me a comparison of fukushu vs. meiwa?

Changshou(fukushu) kumquat has a very sweet thick peel but also lots of sour juice. They can also get as big as a satsuma.
Meiwa are almost always sweet and dry. Wait until March and both are the best!  BTW at my old house I had a mature
changshou kumquat whose fruit I used to make the best marmalade from, I appreciated the large fruit for than. At my
new house I planted a nordman seedless kumquat for making marmalade. Also am growing out a real seville orange
from seed for marmalade.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Received Two Grapefruit Trees Today
« on: June 17, 2014, 11:47:42 PM »
Dr. Manners has written that in his opinion Marsh grapefruit left hanging on the tree until late February or March, is the very best tasting grapefruit available to man.   - Millet

I'd have to agree with him if the fruit is grown in Indian River Florida. I didn't have the same experience with white grapefruit in  SE Texas even after March.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Anyone growing Sugarbelle?
« on: June 06, 2014, 09:46:25 PM »
Sugarbelle description sounded really good, did some research and decided to get a tree. Is anyone growing Sugarbelle? How is the taste and growth habit. I am going to leave it in a partly shaded area growing in a superoot container.

I thought it was available only in Florida?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Finger limes in pots
« on: May 30, 2014, 01:47:58 PM »
Starling, if you are a fan of Lemonade, you should purchase a citrus variety called the New Zealand Lemonade tree.  The fruit eaten out of hand from the tree, taste like lemonade, thus the name. It is a vigorous variety, and produces fruit all year around, with its heaviest crop in the spring - Millet                     .

New Zealand lemonade is available from California Citrus Budwood program. I got budwood a couple years ago thru the Texas budwood bureau and ate a dozen or so fruit two years in a row from a 10 gallon potted tree. Then my tree died from neglect while I was moving. I got budwood again this year and propagated  10+ trees. I like the fruit very much. It is the best by far of all the sweet lemons I have tried including ujukitsu, sulcata or sambokan, and pomona acidless lemon.

I took the opportunity to get and propagate a couple other new varieties to me, smith red blood orange and 88-3 lee x robinson.
Always interested in the new. I got valentine a couple years ago but haven't tasted the fruit yet. 88-2 lee x nova is an excellent seedless
late mandarin. Still waiting for 15-150 lee x orlando to fruit.

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I love grapefruit.

I have one prime planting spot in my yard.

As a kid growing up in South Florida I remember seeing orange and grapefruit trees everywhere. Groves, gardens, yards, etc. Now I don't notice too many trees out and about.

I read about HLB / greening ruining Florida citrus.

In light of HLB, its it viable or wise for a beginner to plant a grapefruit tree for long term fruit and shade in a small yard? 


I do not want a high-maintenance tree, a tree that requires heavy chemicals to protect,  or a tree that is likely to be killed several years down the road.

With grapefruit so cheap in south Florida why bother growing it?

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next to citrus greening, just about the worst thing you can have is citrus canker and my grapefruit has it.  im not even sure what to ask anyone, cause I don't think many of you have had to deal with it before.  ill take any info you can give me, on the best products, best practices to protect the other trees and whatever else you can think of...

thx

red

I think your citrus growing days are over. You should ask the Louisiana citrus group what to do.

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I don't bother to test my trees. I spray with STEM every time I spray for bugs.

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Must graft with new bud as top most bud on the tree or it may not force. I'd recommend a top bud, let it grow out and then repeat. You would then have bottom, middle and top with different varieties. If you try to bud multiple branches, one branch may outgrow the others. I've done it that way and got a lop sided tree. May not be too lopsided or very lopsided. In my experience the one that grew most vigorously was the variety I least liked and then cut that branch off. At my old house I had a multi-variety grapefruit and blood orange tree. Each had 5+ varieties and not very lopsided.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Kishu Mandarin
« on: April 19, 2014, 08:18:47 PM »
What is the growth habits of your  tree, is it spreading or upright growth. My Kishu is almost semi dwarf looking even though it is on Swingle rootstock. It is wider than it is tall. Compared to other trees the same age it is small but very productive. Fruit are small somewhat concave top and bottom.

My tree is a dwarf and it is shaped like a ball, it was very productive one year but I had to move it so it suffered this past year.  Fruit are small with a little bit of a neck, I don't think it has ever been in optimal conditions so these next few years will be interesting since it is in a good place now.

The seede kishu I found described in the book about cold hardy citrus by Stewart Nagle.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Kishu Mandarin
« on: April 18, 2014, 09:48:20 AM »
Are Kishu Mandarins always seedless or only seedless when grown in the absence of other citrus pollinators?  I have a young tree that had fruit full of seeds the first two years.  The taste is good and the fruit is smaller than other mandarins but I bought it because it was supposed to be seedless.  The tree is still young but I didn't think that seed production varied with age.  My honey tangerine and pixie tangerine seem to be better tasting and more productive.  I also have two small gold nuggets, a small tango, and a large fremont so I won't be sad to see the Kishu go, I just read that so many people think it is the best Mandarin.

As possible pollinators besides the mandarins and tangerines, I have tahitian lime, meyer lemon, calamondin, fisher navel orange, cara cara orange, sweet lime, chandler pomelo, yuzu, and valencia orange.

Any comments would be appreciated.

There are seeded Kishus as well, at least there are in the Houston,TX area.

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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Wanted: Gold Nugget Mandarin
« on: April 16, 2014, 12:24:10 AM »
No citrus scions or plants from out of state can legally be shipped to Texas. The only way to get scions from out of state legally is thru the Texas budwood bureau. They can get you budwood from CCPP.

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