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Citrus => Citrus General Discussion => Topic started by: EricSC on July 23, 2020, 02:05:12 AM

Title: If I already have frost and Okitsu satsuam, should I take a Xie Shan Satsuma
Post by: EricSC on July 23, 2020, 02:05:12 AM
 If I already have Frost and Okitsu satsuma, should I take a Xie Shan Satsuma tree or Miho Satsuma ?
Title: Re: If I already have frost and Okitsu satsuam, should I take a Xie Shan Satsuma
Post by: Oolie on July 23, 2020, 02:09:41 AM
Yes, and trade the Xie shan to me.
Title: Re: If I already have frost and Okitsu satsuam, should I take a Xie Shan Satsuma
Post by: EricSC on July 23, 2020, 02:22:08 AM
Oolie,is Xie Shan that good?
Title: Re: If I already have frost and Okitsu satsuam, should I take a Xie Shan Satsuma
Post by: Oolie on July 23, 2020, 02:36:54 AM
Haven't tried it yet, but the people who post here have made me excited to try it. I've tried grafting it several times this year without success.

That and I already have a mid season and late season mandarin, an early would give me a good, full season.
Title: Re: If I already have frost and Okitsu satsuam, should I take a Xie Shan Satsuma
Post by: EricSC on July 23, 2020, 02:44:40 AM
I just looked what new varieties of mandarins in Japan.  It looks now they produce some new ones.  one of the two best is called Hamuri, which is better than Sumo.  But it is not on CCPP's lists.  Hamuri is derived from Kiyomi tango which is on the list. Kiyomi tango is not ranked as high.
Title: Re: If I already have frost and Okitsu satsuam, should I take a Xie Shan Satsuma
Post by: Millet on July 23, 2020, 08:28:29 AM
At two of the yearly Citrus Expos that I attended they held a citrus tasting contest.  Xie Shan won both contest.  I have a Xie Shan tree for ten years now, and the fruit is amazing, easy peeling, and seedless.
Title: Re: If I already have frost and Okitsu satsuam, should I take a Xie Shan Satsuma
Post by: containerman on August 05, 2020, 01:03:53 PM
At two of the yearly Citrus Expos that I attended they held a citrus tasting contest.  Xie Shan won both contest.  I have a Xie Shan tree for ten years now, and the fruit is amazing, easy peeling, and seedless.
I can't wait for mine to start producing. My dekopon has 3 fruit this year and my miyagawa has 4 fruit holding this year and I'm looking forward to trying these out for the first time this winter.
Title: Re: If I already have frost and Okitsu satsuam, should I take a Xie Shan Satsuma
Post by: sc4001992 on August 05, 2020, 01:59:25 PM
Here's my feedback on the tastes of these fruits I grow (in best -> not so good):
1. Sumo - excellent
2. Ponkan- excellent
3. Gold Nugget -very good
4. Honey mandarin- very good
5. Kyomi - good
6. Miyagawa- good
7. Okitsu - good
8. Xie Shan - no fruit yet
9. Miho - no fruit yet
Title: Re: If I already have frost and Okitsu satsuam, should I take a Xie Shan Satsuma
Post by: containerman on August 05, 2020, 02:27:51 PM
Here's my feedback on the tastes of these fruits I grow (in best -> not so good):
1. Sumo - excellent
2. Ponkan- excellent
3. Gold Nugget -very good
4. Honey mandarin- very good
5. Kyomi - good
6. Miyagawa- good
7. Okitsu - good
8. Xie Shan - no fruit yet
9. Miho - no fruit yet
what is the difference in taste between the ponkan and sumo ?

if you had to keep only one which would it be the sumo ?
Title: Re: If I already have frost and Okitsu satsuam, should I take a Xie Shan Satsuma
Post by: Millet on August 05, 2020, 02:35:42 PM
I have an in ground Ponkan tree.  Ponkan, a cross between a mandarin and a pummelo, is alternate bearing unless the fruit is 50 percent reduced during the on year.  Ponkan is among the largest sized fruit in the  mandarin family, about the size of an orange.  I agree the taste is excellent, the only draw back is the amount of seeds it has.
Title: Re: If I already have frost and Okitsu satsuam, should I take a Xie Shan Satsuma
Post by: containerman on August 06, 2020, 01:52:01 PM
I have an in ground Ponkan tree.  Ponkan, a cross between a mandarin and a pummelo, is alternate bearing unless the fruit is 50 percent reduced during the on year.  Ponkan is among the largest sized fruit in the  mandarin family, about the size of an orange.  I agree the taste is excellent, the only draw back is the amount of seeds it has.

Yes seeds for me are a deal breaker with Mandarins. So Sumo it is  :)
Title: Re: If I already have frost and Okitsu satsuam, should I take a Xie Shan Satsuma
Post by: EricSC on August 06, 2020, 05:26:46 PM
yes, too many seeds can be a small problem
Title: Re: If I already have frost and Okitsu satsuam, should I take a Xie Shan Satsuma
Post by: containerman on August 07, 2020, 11:33:49 AM
yes, too many seeds can be a small problem

But if it has a great flavor it would make a great one for juicing.