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Seedless Sapodillas
« on: June 09, 2014, 12:39:05 PM »
I would like to get our forum members' input on this variety or phenomenon. I know there is a seedless variety which I was told it wasn't very good as far the quality of the fruit. However, I was visiting one of my friends grove a few weeks back and to my surprise most of the saps did not have any seeds. Out of eight that I have eaten, only big one had seeds and it was only two seeds. The first ones I ate were medium size and round. None of them had seeds. I thought it was confined to just one tree then I ate a couple that were elongated with a pointy tip at the bottom of the fruit and they did not have seeds as well. All of them are of excellent eating quality. Some more red than other. Some more of cinnamon taste than others. Does pollination play a role in the amount of seeds that sapodillas produce??? 





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Re: Seedless Sapodillas
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2014, 04:36:26 PM »
Yes I would think pollination would play a role here.

Can you do air layers from this tree or acquire scion? I would interested in obtaining some of either

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Re: Seedless Sapodillas
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2014, 09:04:07 PM »
Very cool sapodilla. Pollination could be a factor for seedless fruit. Nice field report. Keep up the good work Cubano. Call me next time you come down to SFLA.
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Re: Seedless Sapodillas
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2014, 03:53:48 AM »
For sure FGM. I'm going to try to graft and see if the fruits from the grafted trees are seedless as well. By the way these seedless saps are excellent.

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Re: Seedless Sapodillas
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2014, 04:52:14 AM »
Comprade, se me hace la boca agua... ;)

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Re: Seedless Sapodillas
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2014, 06:59:04 AM »
I have read you can spray hormones during flowering to induce fruit set without pollination. You can get a seedless tomato like this. Could this not have been the case here?
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Re: Seedless Sapodillas
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2014, 03:54:37 PM »
Comprade, se me hace la boca agua... ;)

Felipe esos nisperos/sapotes estan riquisimos.

I have read you can spray hormones during flowering to induce fruit set without pollination. You can get a seedless tomato like this. Could this not have been the case here?

That did not happen.

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Re: Seedless Sapodillas
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2014, 09:04:53 PM »
Any one else has ran into these seedless sapodillas?
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Re: Seedless Sapodillas
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2014, 01:36:22 AM »
I got some from squam last weekend.  Cut the first one open today.  It was seedless, and the segments pulled apart on their own.  Thanks for the tips on not eating the skin--it was definitely a better experience without that sandpaper skin!
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Re: Seedless Sapodillas
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2014, 04:15:11 AM »
I got some from squam last weekend.  Cut the first one open today.  It was seedless, and the segments pulled apart on their own.  Thanks for the tips on not eating the skin--it was definitely a better experience without that sandpaper skin!

Isn't sandpaper a bit of an exaggeration?

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Re: Seedless Sapodillas
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2014, 07:19:43 AM »
No disrespect to Cubano but I prefer seeded on everything be it sapodilla, grapes, watermelon etc etc.  Fruits without seeds are too highly bred and tampered with and don't taste as good. There are thousands more people breeding seedless grapes and watermelons, there is big money in it. Not nearly as many breeding seedless sapodilla so it is more likely to be a decent product. There are seeds in every seedless fruit. It is just that they are so tiny you don't notice.

"The fruit of seedless grapes is smaller than normal because seeds produce the plant hormone gibberellin, which causes fruit enlargement. Most commercial ..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seedless_fruit
A seedless fruit is a fruit developed to possess no mature seeds. As consumption of seedless fruits is generally easier and more convenient, they are considered commercially valuable.

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Re: Seedless Sapodillas
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2014, 11:20:00 AM »
I had an alano sapodilla fruit that was seedless and another one with one seed. That's a natural tendency though.
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Re: Seedless Sapodillas
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2014, 12:07:37 PM »
I had an alano sapodilla fruit that was seedless and another one with one seed. That's a natural tendency though.

I have eaten hundreds of Alano and dont think I have ever had a seedless one.
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Re: Seedless Sapodillas
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2014, 12:40:28 PM »
I had an alano sapodilla fruit that was seedless and another one with one seed. That's a natural tendency though.

I have eaten hundreds of Alano and dont think I have ever had a seedless one.

Than I guess it's my luck. lol I bought a couple of alano fruits from Bender's Grove. The first one I ate was seedless.
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Re: Seedless Sapodillas
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2014, 06:16:57 PM »
Seems to have been some sort of pollenization issue this year with Sapodilla.
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Re: Seedless Sapodillas
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2014, 01:56:06 PM »
More seedless fruit. Seems that this was the year for seedless sapodilla


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Re: Seedless Sapodillas
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2014, 03:33:42 PM »
Same here Carlos. Had two more......seedless and excellent quality.

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Re: Seedless Sapodillas
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2014, 03:43:38 PM »
Mine had a cinnamon honey taste, very fine grain but not very sweet for me good. I do not like too much sweetness. This was just right..
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Re: Seedless Sapodillas
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2014, 04:47:43 PM »
More seedless fruit. Seems that this was the year for seedless sapodilla



What cultivar is your sapodilla Carlos?
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Re: Seedless Sapodillas
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2014, 05:01:44 PM »
No idea, the are several trees. some of the others are  rounder fruit,  but this happens to look like a little mamey and is also producing seedless fruit of decent quality. Seems to be particular to this year fruit set. I think.
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