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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade => Topic started by: behlgarden on February 21, 2018, 04:14:27 PM
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FYI - I will be pruning my Cherimoyas and have following scions for sale:
(Note Fall Pruning is this years wood and its Green, but does the same thing. I get better success as there is no dormancy period unlike spring wood that only pushes when dormancy breaks.)
1. Pierce
2. Campas
3. Lucida
4. Campos (Spain)
5. Behl
6. Santa Rosa
7. Cumbe
8. Sabor -
9. Orton (limited supply)
10. Nata
11. Honey Hart
12. Helmut
13. Selma
14. Cherisop (Cherimoya x Atemoya, more cherimoya taste)
15. Deliciousa -
16. El Bumpo - From original mother tree, Limited Quantities
17. Fino DJ - Limited Quantities.
18. Schlome - Limited Quantities.
19. Booth
Min. 4 pc. order,. Min 2 pc. per variety, $5/ea scion plus $3.5 shipping. $9 for expedited Shipping. Pruning starts in 2nd week of Sep(Sale Starts now), taking pre-orders. Some have limited supply, so first come first serve, PM me for more info.
Please Mention your forum name, full name, address in Paypal.
Thanks
Trying to coincide this with Buddy Tape that will also ship 3rd week of March. So order Buddy tape as well.
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Oh you have Lucida! I've been looking for a replacement for my failed graft.
Wait, campos is the same as spain?
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no Campos is from Spain, not to be confused with Campas. Campos looks like El Bumpo
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good selection Behl!
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The nursery I bought my Campas tree from (8 years ago? I'll have to dig through my records) told me that Campas is from Spain where it was a commercial prospect, but did not fair well in transport and so wasn't widely planted. My tree has been the source of scions for several members here. Below are photos of some of the first fruit I harvested... it does have protrusions like El Bumpo, is self-pollinating, and can produce some good sized fruit.
(https://s18.postimg.cc/ed43hxgmt/thumbnail_CAM00183.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ed43hxgmt/)
(https://s18.postimg.cc/rh9numged/thumbnail_CAM00188.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/rh9numged/)
Here's another photo of Campas fruit from this year... less protrusions on this one. Delicious fruit.
(https://s18.postimg.cc/dy20gjmdh/IMG_2880.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/dy20gjmdh/)
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Added few more varieties
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PM sent. Thank you. Chris
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FYI - I will be pruning my Cherimoyas and have following scions for sale:
1. Pierce
2. Campas
3. Lucida
4. Campos (Spain)
5. Behl
6. Santa Rosa
7. Cumbe
8. Sabor
9. Orton (limited supply)
10. Nata (Added 2/26)
11. Honey Hart (Added 2/26)
12. Helmut (limited supply) (Added 2/26)
13. Selma (limited supply) (Added 2/26)
Min. 4 pc. order,. Min 2 pc. per variety, $5/ea scion plus $3 shipping. Pruning starts in 3rd week of March (Sale Starts Mar 12th), taking pre orders. Some have limited supply, so first come first serve, PM me for more info.
Thanks
Friend i sent to you PM. Please tell me its possible?
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FYI - I will be pruning my Cherimoyas and have following scions for sale:
1. Pierce
2. Campas
3. Lucida
4. Campos (Spain)
5. Behl
6. Santa Rosa
7. Cumbe
8. Sabor
9. Orton (limited supply)
10. Nata (Added 2/26)
11. Honey Hart (Added 2/26)
12. Helmut (limited supply) (Added 2/26)
13. Selma (limited supply) (Added 2/26)
Min. 4 pc. order,. Min 2 pc. per variety, $5/ea scion plus $3 shipping. Pruning starts in 3rd week of March (Sale Starts Mar 12th), taking pre orders. Some have limited supply, so first come first serve, PM me for more info.
Thanks
Friend i sent to you PM. Please tell me its possible?
Denis, no PM came from you. send again
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FYI - I will be pruning my Cherimoyas and have following scions for sale:
1. Pierce
2. Campas
3. Lucida
4. Campos (Spain)
5. Behl
6. Santa Rosa
7. Cumbe
8. Sabor
9. Orton (limited supply)
10. Nata (Added 2/26)
11. Honey Hart (Added 2/26)
12. Helmut (limited supply) (Added 2/26)
13. Selma (limited supply) (Added 2/26)
Min. 4 pc. order,. Min 2 pc. per variety, $5/ea scion plus $3 shipping. Pruning starts in 3rd week of March (Sale Starts Mar 12th), taking pre orders. Some have limited supply, so first come first serve, PM me for more info.
Thanks
Friend i sent to you PM. Please tell me its possible?
Denis, no PM came from you. send again
Ok. I am again send your PM.
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The picture is from JF and is label as campUS. Is this the same as Campos or campas? I am very confuse.
(https://s9.postimg.cc/yncfcls6z/49_FB9_D91-6_DF6-4_DA1-8847-124645281960.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/yncfcls6z/)
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That is a good looking fruit! It appears to be different from what I have as Campas (which should be the same as what JF and Behl have as Campas). My Campas tree has broader/wider leaf structure and more 'typical' cherimoya fruit structure (namely "plates") than what you are showing as Campus.
As an aside, I second JF's earlier comment - great selection Behl! For anyone looking for Campas scions, please reach out to the author of this thread (Behl) - my posting here was meant to help clarify/understand the difference between Campas and Campus only.
The picture is from JF and is label as campUS. Is this the same as Campos or campas? I am very confuse.
(https://s9.postimg.cc/yncfcls6z/49_FB9_D91-6_DF6-4_DA1-8847-124645281960.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/yncfcls6z/)
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Campus and Campas are mislabeled names but the same. Campos is from Spain.
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Added very limited Cherisop cherimoya wood.
Due to extrement cold sub 40 degree temps, I have not pruned anything, its not good as it can cause dieback on my trees. I will prune once weather stabilizes, around 2nd week of March.
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Campus and Campas are mislabeled names but the same. Campos is from Spain.
Behl, the photo of Campos fruit looks much more like atemoya than cherimoya (i.e. Leaves are pinnate, not as broad); also, searching for Campos and Campas in Google, I find several earlier scientific references to Campas (and alternately Campa) in Spain - but few for Campos.
i.e. This article: https://books.google.com/books?id=AxbUJntXepEC&pg=PA77&lpg=PA77&dq=campas+cherimoya&source=bl&ots=hxxLm2bL0M&sig=EJvlfWTjOIfTKosmwXlwfFeJ30g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjMwuPVmc_ZAhVQ1WMKHXYtCLgQ6AEwCXoECAUQAQ#v=onepage&q=campas%20cherimoya&f=false (https://books.google.com/books?id=AxbUJntXepEC&pg=PA77&lpg=PA77&dq=campas+cherimoya&source=bl&ots=hxxLm2bL0M&sig=EJvlfWTjOIfTKosmwXlwfFeJ30g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjMwuPVmc_ZAhVQ1WMKHXYtCLgQ6AEwCXoECAUQAQ#v=onepage&q=campas%20cherimoya&f=false)
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Those sending PM/Payments, please include text with your forum name, full name, and address.
Thanks
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Added Deliciousa
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Added El Bumpo, this is from original mother tree.
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Do you send outside US?
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Do you send outside US?
sorry I dont. had bad experience in the past, plus feel bad when package gets lost plus lose money.
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Do you send outside US?
sorry I dont. had bad experience in the past, plus feel bad when package gets lost plus lose money.
Totally agree plus the hassle of filling out custom forms not worth it
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Update:
I had prepped branches and last two days we warmed up so wood is ready to harvest. I will ship to those who ordered shipment goes out tomorrow. Others please order ASAP to benefit from prime wood.
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Update:
I had prepped branches and last two days we warmed up so wood is ready to harvest. I will ship to those who ordered shipment goes out tomorrow. Others please order ASAP to benefit from prime wood.
Will do, thanks!
if you think of it, please don't ship mine until Monday. I'd hate for them to get stuck in a post office over the weekend.
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All orders that were paid (as of morning of Mar 8, 2018) were harvested today, sealed, packed, and shipped (Except Mark's per his request, that will go out on Monday). You should receive emails directly from Paypal over shipping status. You may start receiving it Saturday thru Monday (In CA) and by Tuesday-Wed out of state. Please note the following:
1. All budwood open ends were dipped into wax and sealed, USDA employs this technique in sealing budwood and it works great.
2. No need to remove wax, simply graft the normal way you do, make sure to wrap the wood with buddy tape or whatever you normally use.
3. Added moist vermiculite and moist paper towel to retain moisture, sealed in sandwich bags.
4. I mixed sizes so you have choice. Some varieties wood may be thin by nature, but every wood has exposed nodes that are plump and ready to push.
5. In some cases where a variety was short, I substituted with another top tier. Some were contacted and got consent from them. If you are not happy about what you get, let me know and I can either refund OR send again in 2-3 months.
6. Included some freebies.
Would love your feedback on quality of wood and condition you get them. Happy grafting 8) 8)
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Wow, now that's service! Thanks for the care.
All orders that were paid (as of morning of Mar 8, 2018) were harvested today, sealed, packed, and shipped (Except Mark's per his request, that will go out on Monday). You should receive emails directly from Paypal over shipping status. You may start receiving it Saturday thru Monday (In CA) and by Tuesday-Wed out of state. Please note the following:
1. All budwood open ends were dipped into wax and sealed, USDA employs this technique in sealing budwood and it works great.
2. No need to remove wax, simply graft the normal way you do, make sure to wrap the wood with buddy tape or whatever you normally use.
3. Added moist vermiculite and moist paper towel to retain moisture, sealed in sandwich bags.
4. I mixed sizes so you have choice. Some varieties wood may be thin by nature, but every wood has exposed nodes that are plump and ready to push.
5. In some cases where a variety was short, I substituted with another top tier. Some were contacted and got consent from them. If you are not happy about what you get, let me know and I can either refund OR send again in 2-3 months.
6. Included some freebies.
Would love your feedback on quality of wood and condition you get them. Happy grafting 8) 8)
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Where is the Like button? 8)
can you ask what city do you live in? thank you
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Where is the Like button? 8)
can you ask what city do you live in? thank you
Corona, CA
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Awesome!!!! Thanks Behl!!!!
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Those who didn't get first batch shipped last week will get their orders shipped out on Tuesday so keep an eye for email from Paypal.
Those who have shown interest and yet to send payments, please do so. Time is running out. Weather after next weekend is going to be on the warmer side perfect to graft anonas, mother trees start their first push towards 3rd week of March depending on where you are. IN my yard, its weird I am seeing new growth at the same time old leaves are yet to drop.
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Last batch is going out today, still have time to order/pay and get it shipped today,
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Behl,
I got the scions in the mail. I just want to say thank you for the free scions. It was very professionally package and i greatly appreciate the free scions.
Mikey
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Behl,
I got the scions in the mail. I just want to say thank you for the free scions. It was very professionally package and i greatly appreciate the free scions.
Mikey
You are welcome
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Behl, good day!
I wrote you a РМ with my order. You will be able to sell cuttings of cherimoya?
With respect,
Denis.
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Behl,
Do you have Atemoya and/or sugar apple type scions?
Vincent.
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Behl,
I got the scions in the mail. I just want to say thank you for the free scions. It was very professionally package and i greatly appreciate the free scions.
Mikey
Ditto on all accounts. He sure went above and beyond regarding care and gifting a top tier variety. Being that cherimoya is new to me he's been super helpful regarding support and questions regarding the culture via emails.
Will be grafting this morn.
Mark
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due to inclement weather here in So Cal, Rains, and extreme cold temps at nights (36-39), I have not pruned or cut any new material for later payments/orders yet. Cutting anona branches in this cold could send branches into shock and kill them. happens quite often. So, those who are waiting for wood may have to wait another week for weather to stabilize. also, if you didn't order yet, now may be a good time to do so.
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PM sent (again-my fault) Chris
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Thanks for the update, Behl.
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someone by name "Michael Fernandez" sent me paypal with no mailing address. Please PM me or reply to email I sent with your mailing address.
Thamks
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All Orders have been shipped. If there is anyone still waiting, go ahead, I will prune trees after Mar 30th.
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someone by name "Michael Fernandez" sent me paypal with no mailing address. Please PM me or reply to email I sent with your mailing address.
Thamks
Thanks Behl!
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Are you guys receiving emails from PayPal with your tracking numbers?
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Hi Behl, mine are beginning to push. Here's hoping they don't dry up. I did cleft grafts and two veneer grafts due to a large girth disparity between rootstock and scion.
I expect seedlings and a few scions by USPS this Thursday of cherimoya and one atemoya.
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Mark, yes in Anona residual push is a possibility, it normally doesn't dry out but the rootstock branch grafted on dies for some non compatible reasons. It happens every once in a while.
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Mark, yes in Anona residual push is a possibility, it normally doesn't dry out but the rootstock branch grafted on dies for some non compatible reasons. It happens every once in a while.
We have a two master grafters and growers here, I'm talking about two avid gardeners who have grafted literally thousands of tropicals successfully, and all but one plant failed (El Bumpo) between the two of them a year or so ago. That's why I'm not holding my breath, just keeping my fingers crossed.
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Cherimoyas take easily like stone fruits as long as your rootstock is coming out of dormancy and is in active push stage, Scion is fresh, and no incompatibility kicking in. out of every 10 I do, I get 1 that kills the branch, dont ask me why, LOL
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Behl,
I received shipping labels but not much information so far.
Thanks,
Vincent.
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It will be picked up by USPS today. You will see update later today or tomorrow morning
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All grafts are pushing including 2 iffy veneer grafts. Also pushing are some gifted Campas cleft grafts. Am holding my breath.
Behl, am storing the leftover scions in the fridge at 40F to gift to another AFTER confirmation that mine are going to be OK. Any problem with that? I've stored citrus, avocado, and mango scions for up to 6 weeks or so and usually gotten 100% takes.
Regards,
Mark
(https://s9.postimg.cc/6qjzzfomj/Cherimoya_Grafts_March29.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6qjzzfomj/)
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All grafts are pushing including 2 iffy veneer grafts. Also pushing are some gifted Campas cleft grafts. Am holding my breath.
Behl, am storing the leftover scions in the fridge at 40F to gift to another AFTER confirmation that mine are going to be OK. Any problem with that? I've stored citrus, avocado, and mango scions for up to 6 weeks or so and usually gotten 100% takes.
Regards,
Mark
(https://s9.postimg.cc/6qjzzfomj/Cherimoya_Grafts_March29.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6qjzzfomj/)
Mark, Glad to see it push. I shipped wood the same day I cut, wood was sealed within 15 minutes of cutting to keep freshness. I would not store for too long because my tree was not dormant when I cut wood off, dormant wood can be stored for may be 2 weeks max, but Anona goes down hill quick after 10 days. Dormancy is set in when all leaves drop naturally, that happens in my yard around late April to early May.
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Dormancy is set in when all leaves drop naturally, that happens in my yard around late April to early May.
Did you mean they come out of dormancy late April?
Also, are you inferring that the cold storage will put them into a state of dormancy (even though were shipped dormant) and screw them up so they don't "wake up"
Sorry, am damn confused LOL. ;D
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Dormancy is set in when all leaves drop naturally, that happens in my yard around late April to early May.
Did you mean they come out of dormancy late April?
Also, are you inferring that the cold storage will put them into a state of dormancy (even though were shipped dormant) and screw them up so they don't "wake up"
Dormancy is dependent upon location you are in a and your temps. If you put wood in refrigerator (assuming not below 45F), when you graft they wake up instantly given your hot temps outside. it actually helps. but viability goes down each day they are not grafted. All wood that I sent was sealed at cut ends, but needs to be buddy taped and stored properly. it could be stored for up to 10 days.
Sorry, am damn confused LOL. ;D
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Got the package. They are very professionally packaged. Thank you for the free scions.
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Dormancy is dependent upon location you are in a and your temps. If you put wood in refrigerator (assuming not below 45F), when you graft they wake up instantly given your hot temps outside. it actually helps. but viability goes down each day they are not grafted. All wood that I sent was sealed at cut ends, but needs to be buddy taped and stored properly. it could be stored for up to 10 days.
Got it, thanks for the info.
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I just received the shipping label created email. Thanks
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All orders have been fulfilled. shipment went out today. Last call to anyone who missed. got limited varieties left now. trees are going dormant here and new growth will be full swing late Aprl
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All orders have been fulfilled. shipment went out today. Last call to anyone who missed. got limited varieties left now. trees are going dormant here and new growth will be full swing late Aprl
Dumb question, because I know nothing about annona physiology - why are they going dormant now? Like other trees don't they respond to increasing temps and/or day length? My grafts are all pushing well, I just need a feel of what's coming next.
Thanks
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Because Anona new growth leafs out from under leaf node, as node swells, leaf falls allowing new growth. Makes sense?
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Because Anona new growth leafs out from under leaf node, as node swells, leaf falls allowing new growth. Makes sense?
Yep, am witnessing that, which to me means it actively kicking butt. :D
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yep Mark. note that I strip leaves and expose nodes 1-week before harvesting wood, so they are full of energy and ready to pop. Most folks should get high rate of success given weather and time of the year and grafting skills. should be over 90% success.
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most folks who got wood 2 weeks ago must have gotten takes (non- CA) as its warmer elsewhere.
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Behl,
I'm not outside SoCal, but some of my scions from you have started pushing. Way too early to out of the woods but I am very hopeful.
Vincent.
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Behl,
I'm not outside SoCal, but some of my scions from you have started pushing. Way too early to out of the woods but I am very hopeful.
Vincent.
glad to hear. So Cal is getting a mini heat wave today and last 2 and next 3 days are going to be in high 80's, enough to push new grafts.
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I just grafted the scions last week and also this weekend. Hope one set will take.
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Been weird weather here from hot to damn cold a couple of days ago - 37F. It's 41F now at 6:50 a.m. All of my grafts are pushing including two iffy veneer. Removed the rubber bands and the buddy tape covering the veneer grafts and the top of the chopped off rootstock is brown and firm. Rest are cleft drafts. So, multigrafted tree has 1 Pierce, 1 Sabor, and 2 Behl from my order and 2 gifted Campas sticks.....all are pushing well.
Thanks again for the nice wood!
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Mark, don't remove tape for at least 6 plus weeks. Size of scions I sent to all, you can tie to rootstock using buddy tape and will not have to remove it. Union is fragile at this stage.
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All orders have been fulfilled. thanks for ordering and best of luck for takes. I did my best in sending you all prime wood. Only few varieties left, while trees are starting to push new growth while leaves have not been shed yet. if anyone wants more, look at what is left, that is all I can fulfill.
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Mark, don't remove tape for at least 6 plus weeks. Size of scions I sent to all, you can tie to rootstock using buddy tape and will not have to remove it. Union is fragile at this stage.
I used rubber bands and removed them. It's been over 3 weeks since I grafted. Buddy tape will stay on. I'll treat them with TLC.
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cool. the key to anona grafting that I found was to carefully remove entire leaf and expose the buds, if you do that prep work, in 48-72 hrs your wood is prime for harvest and will take in less than 7 days.
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When I received my scions there was still mid 30s weather in our forecast so I felt it was a bad time to graft. Did some searching on this forum and found some old threads where people said cherimoya scions could last in the refrigerator for at least a month. Well that was probably bad advice. I put them in the fridge for two weeks until our weather improved. When I grafted them the scions were all still green but the buds had mostly turned black. I grafted anyway. That was two weeks ago and nothing has pushed yet.
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When I received my scions there was still mid 30s weather in our forecast so I felt it was a bad time to graft. Did some searching on this forum and found some old threads where people said cherimoya scions could last in the refrigerator for at least a month. Well that was probably bad advice. I put them in the fridge for two weeks until our weather improved. When I grafted them the scions were all still green but the buds had mostly turned black. I grafted anyway. That was two weeks ago and nothing has pushed yet.
You can possibly put wood in refrigerator only if you wrapped the wood with buddy tape and sealed them well. Cherimoya scions are to be grafted immediately for best results. Sub 40% temp grafting would not have harmed them as your refrigerator was about the same temp.
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Cut my thumb (no, not using X-Acto) so I am not cutting anything for about 10-days. That being said, if you have paid after last shipment that went out Week so, I will not be shipping anything until Apr 25th or after. So if you thought you missed out, here is still time to get the order in. End of April I will be hacking everything.
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Some good news - I'm seeing buds push on two grafts - one Deliciosa and one Campos. The rest aren't budging. Oh well, at least my mistake with the fridge wasn't a total loss.
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Oh well, at least my mistake with the fridge wasn't a total loss.
Good to know. I understand Behl's urgency to graft quickly upon receipt as he wants everyone to be successful but by the same token I don't see why cherimoya would be any different than some other varieties. I've had good takes on citrus and avocado that were stored in the fridge for at least 6 weeks. You keep them very slightly damp and at about 36F. Wet your hand and sling some water droplets into the bag is all you need.
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its all in chances of takes Mark, 35 to 40 degrees Anona wood will stay dormant if grafted while union healing continues.
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All grafts took and the tree is growing like a weed. Size of the leaves are deceiving set against the big bottomless pot. Some of those leaves are as big as my hand. Even the veneer side grafts took really well which is surprising considering the limited cambium contact they had. They're the tall ones in the back @ 1:00.
Budwood - Campas, Behl, Sabor, Pierce.
(https://s14.postimg.cc/g3uduj2i5/Cherimoya_Grafts_May8.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/g3uduj2i5/)
Great job Sumesh!
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All grafts took and the tree is growing like a weed. Size of the leaves are deceiving set against the big bottomless pot. Some of those leaves are as big as my hand. Even the veneer side grafts took really well which is surprising considering the limited cambium contact they had. They're the tall ones in the back @ 1:00.
Budwood - Campas, Behl, Sabor, Pierce.
(https://s14.postimg.cc/g3uduj2i5/Cherimoya_Grafts_May8.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/g3uduj2i5/)
Great job Sumesh!
Glad to hear. I prepped wood the best I could and timing of shipping was same day of harvest. Rest credit goes to grafter and nature/timing.
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I got good success this season and there is a masterpiece that I created that I will put up for sale later this year. it has:
Helmut
Pierce
Campas
HoneyHart
Fino De Jahate
Sabor
Orton
Behl
Nice 5 Gal size.
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Behl,
That's going to be one hell of a tree for someone. Do you have some pictures?
Thanks.
Vincent.
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Behl,
That's going to be one hell of a tree for someone. Do you have some pictures?
Thanks.
Vincent.
May be in a month or so, its pushing growth and once it has more branches and foliage, it will be worth looking at. Currently its shed all leaves.
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Behl,
Was hoping to see your grafting work of art.
Vincent.
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A happy update - 7 of the 9 varieties I ordered are now pushing through the parafilm. Perhaps the two weeks in the fridge was not fatal but merely slowed them down a bit. Happy customer here, thanks again Behl!
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You are welcome. Hope all take for you.
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I need to update my photo. The Pierce has leaves bigger than my hands and it was the last to push and the smallest scion. Have heard Pierce is especially vigorous. True?
All grafts are growing like weeds.
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yes, Pierce is very vigorous. The slowest ones are el bumpo, santa rosa and selma and they should not be mixed with others or you will end up with these varieties overshadowed by others.
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3 days ago. Pierce leaves as big as dinner plates.
(https://s7.postimg.cc/62k97zydz/Cherimoya_Grafts_May18_2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/62k97zydz/)
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You must have good soil/fertilized property and good conditions for them to look so healthy. Looking great.
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You must have good soil/fertilized property and good conditions for them to look so healthy. Looking great.
Behl cherimoya loves light and crumbly soil with a high content of sand?
What acidity of the soil (PH) should be optimal?
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most fruits do well with PH under 7, not sure about cherimoya though.
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Wow, those growth looks amazing. Mine just started to have some leaves.
What kind of weather have you have since you grafted them?
how much water and how often have you fertilize?
Vincent.
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Wow, those growth looks amazing. Mine just started to have some leaves.
What kind of weather have you have since you grafted them?
how much water and how often have you fertilize?
Vincent.
Raised bed - large bottomless RootBuilder pots. (Rain) watered about once a week. Temps 60F to 95F. Pot is mulched. Rootstock soaked in VAM at planting, Osmocote Indoor/Outdoor pills. Soil is well drained about a 50/50 mix of organics/inorganics....whatever is stockpiled outside and in bags.
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Those are very good advice, and your fruit trees are thriving very well. I'm sure I can implement some of those in taking care of my fruit tree.
Thanks,
Vincent.
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Scions arrived in great condition. Grafting went well and they are pushing out leaves and flower buds. Should I nip off the flower buds now or will they just fall off on their own?
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if flowers set fruit, take them off. usually they fall off on their own and no need to remove.
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My weekly update. One Behl graft failed but the tree is healthy and growing well. Don't think it's quite ready to top/train yet. Am picking off flowers.
(https://s15.postimg.cc/uvm1kzkk7/Cherimoya_Grafts_May31.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/uvm1kzkk7/)
I have quite a few seedlings going too.
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if flowers set fruit, take them off. usually they fall off on their own and no need to remove.
When would they be ready to fruit? After 1 or 2 growing seasons post grafting?
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if flowers set fruit, take them off. usually they fall off on their own and no need to remove.
When would they be ready to fruit? After 1 or 2 growing seasons post grafting?
You can fruit this season but not recommended. 2nd year yes.
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When would they be ready to fruit? After 1 or 2 growing seasons post grafting?
Mostly depends on your skills as a gardener. I usually let my newly grafted avocado trees hold fruit the 2nd year but that's because they're on a well established, robust root system and the grafts/trunks have lignified by the second year. For example, I grafted four varieties and let 7 Sir Prize, 2 Holidays mature. The Ardith and Pinkerton fruit dropped.
IOW, your call. You have to learn how to balance the fruit load with the canopy and root mass no matter what fruit you're growing.
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heavenly sweet perfume of cherimoya female flowers is filling my yard, its a great refreshing fragrance. on the contrary, I find no such or not much in Atemoyas.
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All grafts, no rootstock stuff. Really growing well. About 3' or so. Temps are hitting 99 - 100F every day now.
(https://s15.postimg.cc/4my8f6d9z/Cherimoya_June14.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4my8f6d9z/)
Two side veneer grafts, 1 Behl 1 Sabor, the rest are cleft.
(https://s15.postimg.cc/xcl4c4mif/Cherimoya_June14_2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/xcl4c4mif/)
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Beautiful 6' tree now Behl. All grafts are growing.
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=7511.150 (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=7511.150)
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Beautiful 6' tree now Behl. All grafts are growing.
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=7511.150 (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=7511.150)
looks like you got it on steroids, lol. start pruning so no branch is longer than 12", you need to train it to stay at 6 feet max height each year after pruning.
actually my grafts from March have grown 3 feet as well, while temps in my area dipped to below 45 several times and we just got started with tipple digit temps. I will have to prune as well.
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Do you have any scions for sale right now?
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Do you have any scions for sale right now?
Tony, right now its full bloom, I will have Scions late August which will allow you with ample time to graft and get couple flushes out. current growth is tender and will harden by then. I will have all varieties that are on top of the post. Get in touch again in Mid August.
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looks like you got it on steroids, lol. start pruning so no branch is longer than 12", you need to train it to stay at 6 feet max height each year after pruning.
actually my grafts from March have grown 3 feet as well, while temps in my area dipped to below 45 several times and we just got started with tipple digit temps. I will have to prune as well.
You think I should top this 6' tree back to a foot, really? Yes, I do want to keep it under 8' but I'm also a pretty good judge as to vigor and recognizing short versus long internodes. Those internodes seem pretty short to me.
Also, it's a magnet for mealybugs. After screwing with a few here and there and then finding leaves white with them got the big guns out and soil drenched with imidacloprid and sprayed the bastards with permethrin.
Will the pruned wood make for good budwood now? It's pretty green and tender.
(https://s22.postimg.cc/73rcovvz1/Cherimoya_Grafts_July11.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/73rcovvz1/)
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looks like you got it on steroids, lol. start pruning so no branch is longer than 12", you need to train it to stay at 6 feet max height each year after pruning.
actually my grafts from March have grown 3 feet as well, while temps in my area dipped to below 45 several times and we just got started with tipple digit temps. I will have to prune as well.
You think I should top this 6' tree back to a foot, really? Yes, I do want to keep it under 8' but I'm also a pretty good judge as to vigor and recognizing short versus long internodes. Those internodes seem pretty short to me.
Also, it's a magnet for mealybugs. After screwing with a few here and there and then finding leaves white with them got the big guns out and soil drenched with imidacloprid and sprayed the bastards with permethrin.
Will the pruned wood make for good budwood now? It's pretty green and tender.
(https://s22.postimg.cc/73rcovvz1/Cherimoya_Grafts_July11.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/73rcovvz1/)
I do green fresh on green wood graft all the time and its instant hit. make sure first you strip leaves and expose leaf nodes, wait until those nodes swell and then you harvest wood and graft it. this will help you prune.
on prune. yes, I really mean it, do not let any single branch grow longer than 12-18 inches. you want a bushy low height wide canopy. trust me, train your tree now. Lot of folks make a mistake of having main trunk get 6 foot tall. cherimoya trees in my hard start branching at 6 to 12 inches above ground.
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Hard to keep the upright shoots at 18’.....ideally you want to keep yr trees at 9-12’ prune heavy in spring and tip in fall to control size.
(https://s15.postimg.cc/n0txj2vpj/11_E98155-0_D29-49_F8-_A03_A-9_B72459_BB287.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/n0txj2vpj/)
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(https://s15.postimg.cc/bpvv7v6c7/15_C3582_F-73_DA-4_CD7-9_EE9-_DF3090806_C61.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/bpvv7v6c7/)
(https://s15.postimg.cc/qx79f28zb/7_A41_F22_F-170_C-4_A4_C-9992-_B2997_F571486.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/qx79f28zb/)
(https://s15.postimg.cc/rmq1rf1t3/96_CBB86_D-38_C5-4628-90_E1-_F3_A9_D3949_DF5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/rmq1rf1t3/)
(https://s15.postimg.cc/73zqzisiv/A429_A3_FB-781_A-465_B-943_A-812959_F0_AF23.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/73zqzisiv/)
(https://s15.postimg.cc/c18q7gi53/D3_A21_CA3-_F1_F9-47_C1-82_E7-_FC8_FAAC7_AD18.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/c18q7gi53/)
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Hard to keep the upright shoots at 18’.....ideally you want to keep yr trees at 9-12’ prune heavy in spring and tip in fall to control size.
(https://s15.postimg.cc/n0txj2vpj/11_E98155-0_D29-49_F8-_A03_A-9_B72459_BB287.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/n0txj2vpj/)
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(https://s15.postimg.cc/bpvv7v6c7/15_C3582_F-73_DA-4_CD7-9_EE9-_DF3090806_C61.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/bpvv7v6c7/)
(https://s15.postimg.cc/qx79f28zb/7_A41_F22_F-170_C-4_A4_C-9992-_B2997_F571486.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/qx79f28zb/)
(https://s15.postimg.cc/rmq1rf1t3/96_CBB86_D-38_C5-4628-90_E1-_F3_A9_D3949_DF5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/rmq1rf1t3/)
(https://s15.postimg.cc/73zqzisiv/A429_A3_FB-781_A-465_B-943_A-812959_F0_AF23.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/73zqzisiv/)
(https://s15.postimg.cc/c18q7gi53/D3_A21_CA3-_F1_F9-47_C1-82_E7-_FC8_FAAC7_AD18.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/c18q7gi53/)
Nice looking trees Frank.
How tall do you let them get? Reason I am asking is my father has a tree that needs tipping and pruning.
The tree has never had either. It is a tall tree about 16 to 18 ft.
It is it not a full healthy looking tree like yours but does have a lot of flowers rt now.
I am actually trying to get out there to his house to hand pollinate. My father was not aware that hand pollinating was necessary. He has only managed to get a handful of fruit in the last couple of yrs.
I myself am new to Cherimoya. Have never tasted one but am looking forward to trying for the first time.
Behl, you, and a few others have inspired me to try out more than just mangos.
(https://s15.postimg.cc/z2twqg713/1640_BF46-3_C35-4_FAF-87_AC-76_EDBD148_A73.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/z2twqg713/)
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Great pix and helpful advice. Will do..........
Thanx
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FYI - I will be pruning my Cherimoyas and have following scions for sale:
1. Pierce
2. Campas
3. Lucida
4. Campos (Spain)
5. Behl
6. Santa Rosa
7. Cumbe
8. Sabor -
9. Orton (limited supply)
10. Nata
11. Honey Hart
12. Helmut (limited supply)
13. Selma (limited supply)
14. Cherisop (Cherimoya x Atemoya, more cherimoya taste)
15. Deliciousa -
16. El Bumpo - From original mother tree, Limited Quantities
17. Fino DJ - Limited Quantities.
18. Schlome - Limited Quantities.
19. Booth
Min. 6 pc. order,. Min 2 pc. per variety, $5/ea scion plus $3.5 shipping. $9 for expedited Shipping. Pruning starts in 3rd week of March (Sale Starts now), taking pre-orders. Some have limited supply, so first come first serve, PM me for more info.
Please Mention your forum name, full name, address in Paypal.
Thanks
Trying to coincide this with Buddy Tape that will also ship 3rd week of March. So order Buddy tape as well.
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Hi, so we can send you paypal payment starting now with our choices?
Thanks.
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Here is a photo of the "Cumbe" cherimoya at a market in Arequipa, Peru a few years ago. I have a few seedlings going, but no fruit yet. Does anyone have photos of their "Cumbes"?
(https://i.postimg.cc/WDwyhmy5/cumbe.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WDwyhmy5)
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Hi, so we can send you paypal payment starting now with our choices?
Thanks.
yes, first come first serve. Selma is sold out based on how many folks wanted it. those who inquired, send money so I can put names against it.
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Here is a photo of the "Cumbe" cherimoya at a market in Arequipa, Peru a few years ago. I have a few seedlings going, but no fruit yet. Does anyone have photos of their "Cumbes"?
(https://i.postimg.cc/WDwyhmy5/cumbe.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WDwyhmy5)
Mark, Cumbe we grew and fruited at my yard were about 2lb or bigger. fruuits are huge. had minor grit. I will see if I can find picture
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Hi Behl, just checking to see if you received my payment/order. Thanks.
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Hey Behl:
My PayPal order was placed on the 11th. Was I too late to participate in this round of cuttings shipments? I sent a PM before ordering, but have no way of knowing if it was received by you or not.
I understand if the current worldwide situation has changed your ability to take / ship cuttings and you need to process refunds for those that didn't get in early enough to pre-order.
Thanks for all you do, and stay safe!
Richard
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I haven't had a response from him even prior to March 11 (already paypal him). For now I will just wait and see if and when he will respond.
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Update:. Received Buddy tape order. Barring complete lockdown if that happens over weekend I will ship orders starting Monday. I will be sending emails to all of I have questions..if you don't get email from me by Monday, feel free to send me PM.
Also Buddy tape arrived.
If anyone wants to hold off order due to Coronavirus, please ema me at once. Thanks
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Everyone who ordered and paid, I sent confirming email. If you didnt get email, then I didnt see anything in Paypal for you. Please contact me if you paid and did not get email. Check spam as well. I sent email as BCC so your email does not get exposed.
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UPDATE: Due to Coronavirus situation and trying not to expose myself and my family, I pushed back shipping to coming Monday so I can do all orders tomorrow and ship them out, one time dropoff to USPS Post Office.
I will stop taking orders starting tomorrow 12 PM PST, those who have not sent payment OR ordered, now is your last opportunity. There is also fear of USPS shutting down in future if things escalate.
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All orders have been shipped, you must have gotten email confirmation from Paypal on email you provided within Paypal.
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Hi Behl
Thank you for the extra freebies. Got the scions in good condition. Very happy!
(https://i.postimg.cc/6yjNBPCr/F0036610-D6-D9-4410-ACBE-58716-E654-CD1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6yjNBPCr)
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Got it! Thank you for the extra Sabor!
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Sale is open for Fall 2020 Grafting Season. it would be this years growth, green wood with buds. Pruning in two weeks. See top of post on first page for more information.
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PM sent. Thank you
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Please dont order after Saturday, Sep 12th. I will be harvesting on Sunday and shipping on Monday morning. My yard took a beating in current 121 degree heat wave, will notify you if there are issues with your selection.
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Update:
everything has been shipped. check your email from Paypal for tracking info. Wood was cut/sealed/packed within 2 hrs so its absolutely fresh. In cases where wood was thin I included extras OR freebies.
Happy grafting.
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Got the scions - fresh and nicely packed. Thanks for the extra ones.
(https://i.postimg.cc/30pdpNFk/IMG-3690-copy.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/30pdpNFk)
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Got my scions today, excellent looking.
Thanks.
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Got my scions-
Beautifully packaged and thanks for the extras!
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Malhar
Which one is supposed to be better than el bumpo?
FruitFool
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Malhar
Which one is supposed to be better than el bumpo?
FruitFool
Behl wrote the comment on plastic bag. He said that "Campos (spain) is like but better than el bumpo".
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Ok, thanks.
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Got my scions-
Beautifully packaged and thanks for the extras!
Congrats, and happy grafting from Tejas.
I have 5 Behl varieties on a seedling rootstock I did about 2 years ago. Just pruned the 7' tree back to 4' and it's flowering and pushing foliage. Is also holding fruit without my help.
Those flowers are so small any one have a clue as to how you're supposed to pollinate cherimoya? Sorry, know it's been discussed before.
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Got my scions-
Beautifully packaged and thanks for the extras!
Congrats, and happy grafting from Tejas.
I have 5 Behl varieties on a seedling rootstock I did about 2 years ago. Just pruned the 7' tree back to 4' and it's flowering and pushing foliage. Is also holding fruit without my help.
Those flowers are so small any one have a clue as to how you're supposed to pollinate cherimoya? Sorry, know it's been discussed before.
The flowers begin as female when they are about 1/3 open, then over the course of a day or two they fully open and are male. Collect pollen using a #2 paintbrush when you find the fully open male flowers and save it in a glass jar in the fridge or freezer. When you see female flowers, the barely open type, load up a small amount of pollen (too much pollen makes seedy fruit) and evenly apply it inside the female flower. I like to dock one of the three petals between thumb and index so I know it's been pollinated.
Check photos online for male vs female.
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The flowers begin as female when they are about 1/3 open, then over the course of a day or two they fully open and are male. Collect pollen using a #2 paintbrush when you find the fully open male flowers and save it in a glass jar in the fridge or freezer. When you see female flowers, the barely open type, load up a small amount of pollen (too much pollen makes seedy fruit) and evenly apply it inside the female flower. I like to dock one of the three petals between thumb and index so I know it's been pollinated.
Check photos online for male vs female.
Great info, thanks!
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Got my scions-
Beautifully packaged and thanks for the extras!
Congrats, and happy grafting from Tejas.
I have 5 Behl varieties on a seedling rootstock I did about 2 years ago. Just pruned the 7' tree back to 4' and it's flowering and pushing foliage. Is also holding fruit without my help.
Those flowers are so small any one have a clue as to how you're supposed to pollinate cherimoya? Sorry, know it's been discussed before.
cheers and thanks mark- I am only hoping to follow in your large footsteps!
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cheers and thanks mark- I am only hoping to follow in your large footsteps!
Thanks for the kind words. Trust me, it's been a challenge. I need to get some pix. I also have a "Giant Atis" sugar apple that I grafted couple of years ago thanks to the graciousness of a Filipino grower in LA. It is gorgeous. Can't wait until it fruits.
(https://i.postimg.cc/TpSM8kwH/Atis.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TpSM8kwH)
If you want to chat sometime PM me with a phone number. I know a few living in Houston growing all kinds of fruit - mango, avocaodos, annonas, etc.
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Thank you everyone for your orders and help pruned material not go to waste and help propagate. hope your grafts grow vigorous and produce fruits next year.