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sparkletts05

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Too early to tell gender of papayas?
« on: September 11, 2015, 03:29:43 PM »
Hi everyone! My papaya trees have started putting out blooms for the first time, and I'm still a little unsure what gender some of them are exactly. I've got some pictures below:









Thanks! :)
« Last Edit: September 27, 2015, 01:44:22 PM by sparkletts05 »
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Re: Too early to tell gender of papayas?
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2015, 04:14:42 AM »
Well its not a male which is a good start.  kind of hard to tell though if its hermaphrodite or female, hermie would be best.
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Re: Too early to tell gender of papayas?
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2015, 06:32:05 AM »
The first one is leaning towards female from hermie but the other 2 are too young.

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Re: Too early to tell gender of papayas?
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2015, 01:48:45 PM »
sometimes you will get male flowers from a herm  tree also
it depends on the variety
papaya sex can be weird. I have a male tree with a couple of fruit on it.


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Re: Too early to tell gender of papayas?
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2015, 08:26:54 PM »
^Male trees can produce fruit, but they tend to be not as good as the female fruits flavor-wise.
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Re: Too early to tell gender of papayas?
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2015, 03:30:14 PM »
Thanks for the responses, everyone! Unfortunately it seems one of the blooms fell off from the first picture. Any possible causes for this?
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Re: Too early to tell gender of papayas?
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2015, 05:32:45 PM »
Do the same plant have both male and female flowers (not hermie) ?

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Re: Too early to tell gender of papayas?
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2015, 12:08:17 AM »
Not usually, but there are times when hermie flowers will have non-functional anthers. So even though it's a hermie plant, it's functionally female

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Re: Too early to tell gender of papayas?
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2015, 11:56:01 AM »
its fairly normal for the first few flowers to fall off.
sometimes it is due to over-watering , or not enough sun also.

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Re: Too early to tell gender of papayas?
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2015, 03:39:24 PM »
Hi everyone! My papaya trees have started putting out blooms for the first time, and I'm still a little unsure what gender some of them are exactly. I've got some pictures below:

Do you know what variety of papaya you have there?

I have two TR Hovey plants, and my year-old trees have buds that look just like yours. TR Hovey is allegedly self-fertile, though I'm not sure that reference is scholarly enough to cite.
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Re: Too early to tell gender of papayas?
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2015, 01:44:01 PM »
Thanks for the replies, everyone! I'm not sure what kind I have-it was some Hawaiian variety I bought at the supermarket, I believe. So another one of my trees has started putting out more discernible flowers. These look a little different from the ones I put up in the original post. The bud has a sort of base at the bottom now. Take a look:



Any idea what gender these may be?
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Re: Too early to tell gender of papayas?
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2015, 10:14:14 AM »
I would let them all grow because they all need each other for pollination/cross pollination. You may end up with different varieties of papaya. I started from seeds that i got from a supermarket papaya a few years ago and now i have about seven different varieties in my backyard. If only flowers come out of the new buds after a few months it may be a non bearing male but by then the other trees should have fruits.  Good luck and please lets see the progress of the fruits.


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Re: Too early to tell gender of papayas?
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2015, 10:15:13 AM »
it looks like a male flower, but, its very hard to tell now.
its not a male tree though.
male trees have clusters of flowers.

most new types of papaya are bred to have less males
and more females and hermi's
i have 24 papaya trees from seed, only 2 are male.

here is some info
http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/oc/freepubs/pdf/F_N-5.pdf

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Re: Too early to tell gender of papayas?
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2015, 02:51:15 PM »
I gave up trying to tell the difference when the plants were young so I just planted a bunch of papayas in pot and in the ground then waited.  They ones that didn't bear fruit still made attractive and decorative plants in the landscape.

 

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