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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: Mark in Texas on February 21, 2018, 07:56:01 AM
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Any one have any luck rooting annona sticks? As soon as they arrive I plan on trying it by using different hormones, one being Clonex. Thoughts are to wrap the stick with buddy tape leaving at least one node treated and underground. It's the node that has the most dormant buds which will pop first.
Mark
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Please let us know if it works. Recently I placed a cutting from a red jabo in water
and after a month it put out a fresh batch of leaves. No roots so far but the leaves
are encouraging at least the cutting has not failed. If you get extra cuttings maybe
try the water method also? Its easy to put cuttings in water and leave in a window.
I tried to get bottlebrush to root in dirt many times unsucessfully and when I put the
cuttings in water in the fall they root after 4-6 weeks. I tried in the spring the same
method and zero?
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Mark, they sell a root gel cup thing at the nursery. You could order online. They work really well. Cuttings dont dry out or rot. Simon turned me onto those and I have a few plants rooted that I was having trouble with in other medium and rooting powder. Ahve not tried cherimoya but if anything will work this is it.
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Books say you have a 5% success rate with air layering. Good luck rooting.
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Exactly! I tried to clone it few months ago, waited for a month and nothing. I also have a cherimoya that I am trying to air layer since beginning of December and no signs. I did use both, Clonex solution and rooting hormone.
Books say you have a 5% success rate with air layering. Good luck rooting.
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Hey Mark, the Gel2 foot pots are indicated for greenwood cuttings so not sure if they’ll work for Cherimoya scions but it’s worth a try.
I’m downing a pint of Pliny the Younger so I’m surprised I can even type!
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Hey Mark, the Gel2 foot pots are indicated for greenwood cuttings so not sure if they’ll work for Cherimoya scions but it’s worth a try.
I’m downing a pint of Pliny the Younger so I’m surprised I can even type!
Salud and yummy! Checked on that brew, man is it complex.
Well definately get my hands on Gel2Root, thanks Brad and Simon for the tip. Also have clonex to play with.
Am caught between removing the swelling tip and leaving it be. Some remove the tip so the focus is on root output. Since the growth hormones, auxins, collect in the tip (apical dominance thingie) it makes sense. Question is, "is there enough food reserves in the cutting to support new tissue growth?"
Air layering is pretty foolproof if you do it right. Girdle and take off a 1/4" band of bark just below the pt. where you wrap in spaghnum moss and plastic. Rooting compound helps too.
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Is this for novelty? I can't see any advantage over starting seeds. Cherimoya roots are delicate and spindly enough as it is.
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Any one have any luck rooting annona sticks? As soon as they arrive I plan on trying it by using different hormones, one being Clonex. Thoughts are to wrap the stick with buddy tape leaving at least one node treated and underground. It's the node that has the most dormant buds which will pop first.
Mark
your best bet is to sow seeds, same year you graft them with known variety, and let one branch grow and mature into fruiting stage. in 2 yrs cherimoya would fruit from seedling if conditions are right.
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Is this for novelty? I can't see any advantage over starting seeds. Cherimoya roots are delicate and spindly enough as it is.
No, it's because of an emergency as I should be getting scions in the mail tomorrow. An Ace in the hole thingie. I'm hoping folks will gift me some decent seedlings as promised, big enough to graft to at our upcoming Austin scion exchange meeting. Lost all my seedlings in my recent freeze.
I have seeds germinating but am a good 2 years away from doing anything with them.
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I tried gel2root last year. Didn’t work. I had some cuttings leaf out but no roots. I tried this on citrus and pomegranate. After 4-6 weeks, although they were alive, I looked into it some more and sounds like a lot of people were poopooing the product. So I took them out and rooted indoors with a mini grow light. 2/3 pomegranates rooted and are still growing (outdoors now). Citrus puttered along for another month or so then dried out.
I had one lomegaranate cutting hat I just neglected and out in a pot outdoors. That grew and outstripped all the other cuttings I tried. I won’t be using gel2root anymore.
My 2 cents. Let me know if it works.
I am currently rooting about 40 different fig cuttings with rooting hormone. And it seems like the best outcome for me has been with rooting hormone (dip n grow or clonex) and wrapping with parafilm vs putting on a heating mat and covering with a humidity dome with temperature control and t5 grow lights. The latter is doing better than the former. I have cuttings in my greenhouse but temps there aren’t as well controlled so those are behind in development.i
In short, I say wrap with parafilm, root with hormone, use a seedling heating mat, and keep the humidity up.
K
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Good advise. I have two of the Gel packs on their way with an Amazon order. Will try different methods. Hopefully someone will gift me with some seedlings big enough to graft to. We get a lot of folks who bring 100's of bags of scions and pots of every kind of fruit you can imagine, seedlings, cuttings, seeds, etc. at the Austin and Houston scion exchange meetings.
Speaking of figs, they're big here. One lady is bringing some rare French variety from cuttings she started. Stuff like that......
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Well, I posted here before about the Cherimoya that I tried to air layer in December and yesterday I decided to open it, and for my surprise it seems like it could root in few more months.
There's a callous being formed and roots could emerge any time soon.
I don’t think it is “foolproof” as mentioned, I haven’t seen any videos or pics of any successful cherimoya being rooted by air layering, neither cloning.
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In a few months you get 1 root. Very poor root. That's why success rate for air-layering cherimoya is 5%.
I gave up air-layering cherimoya and only graft now.
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No indication of roots, yet, only tops pushing.
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Cool! I hope they make some roots for you!
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They can push and grow for 4 months without dying or growing roots. That was my experience with lindstrom atemoya sticks. The moment you disturb them to check for roots is the time they will rapidly go downhill.
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Often those branches would be pushing now in the Spring, even if they had just been pruned off and thrown on the ground. I never tried many cuttings, and didn't have any product other than Hormodin. All died.
Some friends in the local Rare Fruit Council, back in the 1980's, sold Soursop trees that they had rooted from cuttings--- I assume greenwood. Those friends are long gone, so can't ask.
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Like I said, I don't expect any roots, it's fun to try though. The leaves are rapidly expanding which may help with the photosynthesis thingie.
I dropped the GelPak into a solid cup to eliminate light getting to the "rooting area".
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Gel cups work well with tomato cuttings. Big Beef hybrid, one of my faves.
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In CU11000 report they Get 99% success.
They use immature woods.
Seems very tedious to produce young woods.
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A friend tried clonex on cuttings from my ilamas and soursops. Of around a dozen only one soursop (Whitman fibreless) and no ilamas rooted and survived.
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A friend tried clonex on cuttings from my ilamas and soursops. Of around a dozen only one soursop (Whitman fibreless) and no ilamas rooted and survived.
Had the same results with Clonex.
At least I've got 2 healthy tomato plants in the greenhouse now and a few volunteers popping up. The volunteers are weird, having lost ALL of the original fine traits from the BHN hybrid. Even when I let them hang for 2 weeks after they turn red they still don't have much flavor or overall good quality.
My Atis graft July 2018 has turned into a fine tree. SoCal friend who's eating them now says it beats cherimoya, says it's sweeter and they are huge. Hope to fruit it next year.
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Don't care for the open and rank growth. Tried in vain to get a cage over it to pull up the branches.
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Mark, them are fightin words :)
Now we wait for all the folks who believe nothing beats cherimoya to wake up...
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Mark, them are fightin words :)
Now we wait for all the folks who believe nothing beats cherimoya to wake up...
INCOMING!!!!!!! ;D
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I know this is an old topic, but just in case.
Sometimes there are branches that hang low to the ground. I buried part of the branch in the soil. I bent it so the leaves were not in the soil. I must've left it for a long time, seems like a year. I pulled away some of the soil and to my surprise there were roots. I cut the branch where it initially went into the soil. The cut branch didn't die. Couple months later I dug it up and placed it into a pot. I gave the plant to my in-law. I don't know what really happened but she transplanted it and now she says it's on life support, I guess the transplant was not successful. I plan to try this again as there are a couple branches hanging near the ground again.
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tissue culture pawpaw.
oops wrong link I believe .
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I re asked the question here, but it is related in a way
I must of not read the link as clearly as I wanted to (late night)
all that auxin hormone stuff confuses me anyways,
but I hope this can help someone better understand that sort of thing ..
I think some of the tissue culture people just use jello for a medium ,
but do not ask me
seems like hundreds of chemicals you'd have to formulate just to do it yourself
with some of the old recipes I remember a long while back.
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=40974.0 (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=40974.0)