Here are some pics of my lucs seedlings. Most grow like the biggest one but these guys abit different I dunno if it means they may express different genes or if subtle differences in growing conditions cauz this?
This one grew three leaves to start instead.of two like the others
All the others new/first growth came out creamy yellow then darken to green this guy's come out pink like a light mangostana I dunno if this means they.will continue to be different though!
Stuart i'm not a mangosteen expert for sure, rather a greenhorn but i guess you do everything right to grow them. Maybe you have different (tap) water but i guess also in Bangkok the growers use tapwater on there precocious mangosteens. I see those grafted precocious tree's in every shop now so why do people buy them?
The precocious mangosteens from seed are a different story, i didn't specifically mean you by saying that they might not fruit within the given period because there are also members who want to grow them in their greenhouses in colder climates.
The seller Shefloral doesn't even send seeds to the colder continents, i guess that is to protect her business so she doesn't get bad reviews who are caused by growing the seeds in the wrong climate/soil or whatever. I think that is a smart move from her.
I don't know any negativ thing about tesp seeds from Bangkok and the seeds i got from them grow fine. If they might be the wrong species then i even understand that it might be because this vendor buys/swaps the seeds from all over the world to make a living. I don't see the problem with that and i even think that IF something is wrong with the seeds i will get replacement seeds, excuses and/or a refund. What else can a seller who works that way do? About the mangosteenseeds from tesp i believe that they developed them as said and i don't have any reason to think they are a scam. That doesn't guarantee anything of course but the price asked was also low, if i had been developing precocious mangosteenseeds myself then sure i would have asked much more money and for people who defamed me i would ask 10 times more.
On chatuchak weekendmarket the grandpa who sells date-palms told me that his seedlings fruit in 3 years. I read it takes like 7-10 years to get them fruiting and you even need male and female tree's. I don't know if that man is cheating or not but his shop had many customers. The other grandpa i met today on another big weekendmarket also had the same yellow date-tree's. I couldn't ask him how long before fruit but i bet he has never fruited a datepalm himself, he is just a seller who buys and sells. The prices here are so low that in Holland even the parkingcosts for 30 minutes would be 3times more then the price of what he asks for a datepalm. If i had to pay american prices for my tree's then i also would expect more quality and better info but hey this is thailand. On my way to that market the police stopped me twice, i was lucky that i didn't have to pay a bribe this time but also that is common in this country.
You can't compare everything in asia with how it is in the usa or africa or europe, it is what it is here and take it or leave it but respect the people who just do their job, they also have to follow the rules here and try to make a living out of it.
Well i hope to eat one of luc's garcinia one day, also i hope to eat an achacha but my seedlings are growing well. Much faster than the lemondrop garcinia intermedia seedlings that i grow.
My pingans and pedalai grow fast but 2 pingans died. I don't blame anybody for that because they sprouted well but sure it is frustrating. They are all in the same soil, same spot, same water so i have no idea what can be wrong.
Coconut i don't understand what you are writing, my english is not sufficient enough i guess. I hope you don't get rashes from it or you just have to scratch if it makes you itchy. I speak 5 languages and i think that's enough, i don't have problems with it though.
We all know now what car you have, you only forgot to tell us how old it is. After a few years they are totally worthless.
I know you do your best to improve fruittree's for free but that's still no reason to defame me. If you have problems with Dorgon then i can't help you even if i visit Singapore several times a year. If your seeds from him didn't sprout you could claim a refund from the creditcard company i guess. If you can't be bothered for that small amount then leave it. You know as well as me that Dorgon is not me and also not tesp-seeds. there are even more seedsellers from Bangkok i noticed this week, i don't want to mention that shop but you can find it with google.