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Australian lychee fruit in California markets
« on: January 17, 2021, 03:00:08 PM »
Saw this in Facebook market place......anybody tried them? Erdon lee?

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Re: Australian lychee fruit in California markets
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2021, 07:19:22 PM »
Saw this in Facebook market place......anybody tried them? Erdon lee?

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I also bought “Australian” lychees but they’re not that big and just came in a plastic bag. I think it might be sweetheart. They are very sweet pure lychee flavor










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Re: Australian lychee fruit in California markets
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2021, 07:46:18 PM »
The fruit look off in size and shape and that seed looks a bit large for a Sweetheart (they have chicken tongue seeds).  Dont know that Sweethearts are grown in Australia and imported into the US (dont even know if they are even grown commercially or at all in Australia).
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Re: Australian lychee fruit in California markets
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2021, 08:17:53 PM »
Can't see the pics but it is probably FZS. Sweetheart is not a variety outside USA.

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Re: Australian lychee fruit in California markets
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2021, 08:59:56 PM »
Can't see the pics but it is probably FZS. Sweetheart is not a variety outside USA.

Thats what I thought (at least under the name Sweetheart)...now, the ironic thing is that the original tree that was eventually named Sweetheart was supposed to have been an "unknown" variety brought in from Australia to the United States.
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Re: Australian lychee fruit in California markets
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2021, 10:12:14 PM »
If I can see a pic I will know straight away. FZS has more than one selection btw.

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Re: Australian lychee fruit in California markets
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2021, 10:31:41 PM »
If I can see a pic I will know straight away. FZS has more than one selection btw.

Sweetheart on bottom, Florida Hak Ip on top.


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Re: Australian lychee fruit in California markets
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2021, 01:49:23 AM »
Really? I see the pix and there aint no erdon lee or FZS but scungy old kwai mai pink. 24g is chicken feed and good FZS are 40g to 50g so look at past threads on FZS on the scales I posted. Bos 3 is another name for these and they just don't cut it with the champion varieties. Why not FZS, Erdon Lee, Salathiel or even wai chi if you are going to send them to California?

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Re: Australian lychee fruit in California markets
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2021, 09:42:52 AM »
Looks like B3,B3 is better than  wai chi! As for the Florida Sweetheart same as the FZS or the Florida Hak Ip which is FSZ.

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Re: Australian lychee fruit in California markets
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2021, 10:26:36 AM »
Looks like B3,B3 is better than  wai chi! As for the Florida Sweetheart same as the FZS or the Florida Hak Ip which is FSZ.

Are you saying the Sweetheart is a variant of FZS?
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Re: Australian lychee fruit in California markets
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2021, 01:06:03 PM »
Looks like B3,B3 is better than  wai chi! As for the Florida Sweetheart same as the FZS or the Florida Hak Ip which is FSZ.

Are you saying the Sweetheart is a variant of FZS?


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Re: Australian lychee fruit in California markets
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2021, 01:46:58 PM »
Because crap lychee will get bought up here for high prices because we have nothing to compare it too, certainly not good lychee.
Really? I see the pix and there aint no erdon lee or FZS but scungy old kwai mai pink. 24g is chicken feed and good FZS are 40g to 50g so look at past threads on FZS on the scales I posted. Bos 3 is another name for these and they just don't cut it with the champion varieties. Why not FZS, Erdon Lee, Salathiel or even wai chi if you are going to send them to California?

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Re: Australian lychee fruit in California markets
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2021, 03:31:41 PM »
We established in other threads that sweetheart appears to be a selection of FZS and the hak ip is also a selection of what is refred to as hak yip elsewhere. Both of these have larger fruited selections than what appears to be standard in the US.

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Re: Australian lychee fruit in California markets
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2021, 01:56:24 AM »
Really? I see the pix and there aint no erdon lee or FZS but scungy old kwai mai pink. 24g is chicken feed and good FZS are 40g to 50g so look at past threads on FZS on the scales I posted. Bos 3 is another name for these and they just don't cut it with the champion varieties. Why not FZS, Erdon Lee, Salathiel or even wai chi if you are going to send them to California?

Lol well this import is the best one I've had in California. They are very sweet, like candy. They were better than the imports from china and Mexico over the summer. And the imports from Africa were the lowest quality.
Well now I'm happy to know the varieties I'm growing will be even better than this. Im growing sweetheart, hak IP, Mauritius, and unknown "indian variety"

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Re: Australian lychee fruit in California markets
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2021, 04:31:48 AM »
Did you know Mauritius is just a selection of tai so with slightly redder skin? The Indian varieties are just not on par with the Chines ones btw.

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Re: Australian lychee fruit in California markets
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2021, 12:12:24 AM »
Kinda side tracking the initial post but all this lychee talk got me goin! I have a 2 year old seedling lychee but im not sure if we get tempetures low enough over here for him to set fruit. Wanted to clear that off my mind for some time now

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Re: Australian lychee fruit in California markets
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2021, 02:08:26 AM »
Did you know Mauritius is just a selection of tai so with slightly redder skin? The Indian varieties are just not on par with the Chines ones btw.

how do you know everything about lychees? lol you should write a book and introduce erdon lee and seedless to California

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Re: Australian lychee fruit in California markets
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2021, 04:38:41 AM »
I am just making it up LL and no one has caught me out yet.

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Re: Australian lychee fruit in California markets
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2021, 08:04:41 AM »
I am just making it up LL and no one has caught me out yet.
Now you are going all humble on us
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Re: Australian lychee fruit in California markets
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2021, 03:38:06 AM »
Well shucks double D, more people should take an interest in finding out about lychees.

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Re: Australian lychee fruit in California markets
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2021, 12:05:28 PM »
The smaller fruits look like Bosworth 3 which is pretty sweet but has relatively low Lychee flavor. Not bad and it’s also a productive variety. Hopefully we will see some better Lychees available in the markets in the coming years.

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Re: Australian lychee fruit in California markets
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2021, 04:23:45 PM »
Yes it looks like a box of Bos 3s which is the same as kwai mai pink. The positives of growing this variety are that they have low chill requirements for fruiting and fruit reliably and heavily. The fruit themselves however are not deep red, are quite small and the taste is mild with little of the richer lychee elements like rosewater flavour.

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Re: Australian lychee fruit in California markets
« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2021, 04:32:11 PM »
Yes it looks like a box of Bos 3s which is the same as kwai mai pink. The positives of growing this variety are that they have low chill requirements for fruiting and fruit reliably and heavily. The fruit themselves however are not deep red, are quite small and the taste is mild with little of the richer lychee elements like rosewater flavour.

Yeah the taste description matches. Still waiting for the day I can buy/grow San sue Lin, Erdon Lee, and maybe fzs (unless it’s just the same as my sweetheart)

One day I saw FZS fruit available on my Asian delivery app and even though my order went through they still ran out of stock by the time they tried to deliver it..