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Hi Steven, here malay apple is called mountain apple. That may give you some hint as to why it can do well in your climate. It fruits fine here to about 2000 foot (600 meters) elevation. Good luck with your graft.
Oscar

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Tim,

Thanks for the very kind statements!
Whenever I have guest in my garden, I always tell them not to touch any fruits!

They are like walls of a cavern!  If you touch them, the bacteria and oils on your hands make them look like crap!

That's why my fruits look so good, I never touch them until harvest time.

If i ever get to visit you remind me to bring gloves! I gotta touch those babies. HAHAHA
Oscar

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida Fruit 3/10/12
« on: March 12, 2012, 06:14:14 PM »
There are Black Sapote that are sweet but have a mild taste. They don't have a strong flavor at all.  They are best used to make shakes and smoothies. I mix them with a banana and a bit of honey.  I have vegan customers that love them and buy up to 20lbs at a time.  They have a purpose! They are not in my top ten fruits, but neither are apples which I think are barely edible as a fresh fruit., but I do like apple pie and apple juice.     

I'd like to express my support and dismay about ths comment. First the support........my wife a former vegan and anti-processed sugar advocate thinks they are the most rich and decadent dessert.  OK,  well maybe decadent is a bit strong....but she thinks she's cheating while still getting a very healthy eating experience. Now the dismay. I feel it is un-American to impugn the noble apple as has been done here. LOL.....I have eaten apples off the tree in Quebec, NY State, Vermont, New Hampshire, and Washington State.....oops, and I had two apples on a tree in my own yard.  The ones I ate from the tree in my own yard were as you describe....barely edible as a fresh fruit.  The ones off the trees elsewhere (and even those that are store bought, if you get them in season from a good supplier) are excellent fruits to be eaten fresh out of hand.  I eat at  least 4 apples (in season) a day.  I am 4 times more likely, therefore and thereby,  to "keep the doctor away!" OK.....I feel better now.

Harry

Even the very few Anna apples i get here off my tree are p.d.g. (pretty darned good). Another thing to consider is that apple has been cultivated for thousands of years, and there are over a thousand cultivars. So just because you don't like "Red Delicious" doesn't mean all apples are as terrible. I just ate a Gala apple i bought and that was also pdg!
BTW, there was an article in NY Times long ago about a farmer who specialized in growing heirloom apples for niche gourmet markets. Anybody know who i'm talking about? I think he was on east coast somewhere?
Oscar

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Places to visit in South Florida
« on: March 12, 2012, 06:04:35 PM »
Thanks Sheehan and everyone else contributing to this very helpful reference. I think it's especially helpful to people such as myself that would be coming from very long way and would be very limited in time, and also clueless as to where anything is or how to get there.
Would it be too difficult for you to add a google map link to each location? Florida is a very big place and so easy to get lost.
A private members listing that like to show off their collections would also be great. Thanks again,
Oscar

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Julie Mango in South Florida
« on: March 11, 2012, 11:07:28 PM »
Thanks for posting that information Jeff. I often wondered why the descriptions of Julie coming out of Florida were so different from the Julies that exist here. Here the Julie does very well and is relatively disease free. But i remember reading descriptions from Florida about what a disease prone wreck Julie is. Thanks for helping solve that mystery.
Oscar

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Places to visit in South Florida
« on: March 11, 2012, 10:48:19 PM »
What about Harry's place? Didn't see it on the list.
Oscar

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Very Rare Seedlings Available
« on: March 11, 2012, 10:45:54 PM »
I have right now the following seedlings available. All are between 5-8 inches tall. Have very limited quantities, first come, first served. Sorry cannot ship to California. Minimum purchase $30, not including s&h.

Yellow Grumichama, brazilian cherry (Eugenia brasilensis var. leucocephala)  $10 ea.

Eugenia itaguahensis, super rare, like a dwarf grumichama, perfect for pots. $20 ea.

Cabelluda (Yellow jaboticaba), Myrciaria glazioviana, special selection with extra large fruits. $10 ea.

Eugenia neonitida (Pitangatuba) grows and fruits in pots. Like large yellow surinam but no resiny taste. $15 ea.

Syzigium polycephalum (Lipote) more info at http://pinoytrees.blogspot.com/2008/12/wonder-lipote.html $20 ea.

Pouteria torta subsp. gallifructa, a pouteria that looks like a rambutan and tastes like abiu. Extremely rare. $25 ea. From highlands of Guatemala.

Marang, Artocarpus odoratisimus, best of the artocarpus. $15 ea.

Melicoccus lepidopetalus (Motoyoe) Extremely rare. Cousin of spanish lime native to Argentina, Bolivia, Paraguay. Pink fleshed. Much appreciated fruit in its local area. $25 ea.


Please contact me off group for more info and paying instructions.
Thanks, Oscar

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida Fruit 3/10/12
« on: March 11, 2012, 10:06:32 PM »
Hi :)
FloridaGreenMan the pic you posted look's AWESOME ;D ;D ;D Thanks for sharing!!!

 They are not in my top ten fruits, but neither are apples which I think are barely edible as a fresh fruit., but I do like apple pie and apple juice.   

I never liked apples either till one day i drove through an apple orchard and stopped to look around. Had a fresh right off the tree Winesap apple. Incredibly good! Almost like a totally different creature than anything you can buy in american store. I also noticed on a trip to Europe that the apples there were about 10x better tasting. They are still growing some of the old cultivars that really have taste.
Oscar

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Hey Fruitlovers,

The problem is that there's a bunch of conflicting information out there on the internet (and on the PI hang-tags for that matter) about proper fertilization techniques, and I spent the first year or two I had my trees periodically applying balanced fertilizer. That lead to what I've got now, which is big, green, healthy-looking trees that don't flower or fruit.

I've watched all the Campbell videos and am totally convinced now to switch my trees to an all-potassium diet. You live and learn!

In miy mango orchard i never once applied any nitrogen to the trees, and all are very healthy. Ofcourse fertlizers needed will depend on your soil. But generally speaking mangos don't need any nitrogen at all to grow well. It's one tree that is very easy to over fertilize because they have very low need for fertilizers.
Oscar

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida Fruit 3/10/12
« on: March 11, 2012, 05:37:27 PM »
Manzano is called Silk Fig here. Very good tasting very sweet little banana, but has tendency to split if stalk is picked ripe, as you can see from photo. It's better to pick the stalk still green and let them ripen indoors.
Oscar
If picked too green they tend to not convert/get rid of that chalky taste/texture.

Yes, all bananas need to be picked when fully plump, otherwise none will ripen properly.
Oscar

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best type of tree sprayer ?
« on: March 10, 2012, 10:29:07 PM »
Used a Solo 4 gallon backpack sprayer for about 20 years before it finally slowly fell apart and had to be replaced. The new Solo sprayer broke in about 4 months. They don't make em like they used to, or i just got unlucky? If you have a bad back you might consider a smaller sprayer. The 4 gallon fully filled weighs close to 40 pounds. Gets tiring on the back and shoulders real fast.
Oscar

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I agree with Adam, the best is to make your own potting mix, especially if you are doing more than just a few pots. The good thing about mixing your own is that you can see exactly what goes into the mix and later adjust accordingly if you need to. Every plant has slightly different needs, also every climate is going to be different, so can't give you a recipe for the mix. Also the ingredients we use here would not be available in Florida and vice versa. This is a topic that could take up a whole book.
Oscar

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Your cornucopia photo is very attractive. Pumpkin adds nice interesting shape. What is the elongated fruit under the PB fruits? Is it makok chico?
Oscar

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida Fruit 3/10/12
« on: March 10, 2012, 08:52:42 PM »
Manzano is called Silk Fig here. Very good tasting very sweet little banana, but has tendency to split if stalk is picked ripe, as you can see from photo. It's better to pick the stalk still green and let them ripen indoors.
Oscar

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I just read in a different thread that you didn't follow Campbell's recommendation of only using 0-0-50 on your trees and instead used regularly a balanced NPK fertilizer. I think that is the main problem.
Oscar

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Main problem with planting starfruit close to the house is not the root system. Main problem is lots of fruit drop and flies and smell close to your house. If you are ready to pick up and clean fruits every day then also not a problem. If the tree is going to be touching the house then rats can also climb up onto your roof. Here rats do like these fruits. So plant it far enough away from the house that tree is not touching your structure. Starfruits do like wind protection and can take shade, so should be happy there.
Oscar

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Is this the first time it has flowered? If so that could also be the problem. Oh i see you say it is only 3 years old. Many juvenille plants abort flowers, some kind of self protection mechanism. I wouldn't jump to conclusion it is self sterile. I say give it another year, another flowering round.
Oscar

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« on: March 10, 2012, 05:12:09 PM »
Oscar,

I'd love to trade cuttings with you; I've sent you a private message to ask more about exactly what I can send you.

I would think the Chilean Guava would do better in your area than goumi would, just based on dormancy requirements!

   Kevin

OK, i was guessing it would be the other way around and goumi would do better here than chilean guave, but you never know until you try. I'm willing to give both a try. Thanks, Oscar

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Oh, sorry Kevin, forgot you were raising inside your heated basement. Lack of pollinating insects then no doubt is the problem. Try to keep the humidity and temperature as high as you can at time when you do the hand pollination. I've never tried to hand pollinate starfruit so can't help you with that.
Just looked it up in Morton to see what the pollination mechanism is. No info on that, but she does say: "Interplanting of different strains is usually necessary to provide cross pollination and obtain the highest yields." So maybe you're right and your plant is self sterile. If you have a different plant to pollinate with try that.
Oscar

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Yes the starfruits are self pollinating. Is it protected from the wind? Those flowers are very easily knocked off in windy areas. Other possibility is that temperatures are too low during flowering for pollen to fertilize the flower.
Oscar

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: pineapple guava in broward?
« on: March 10, 2012, 04:36:57 PM »
wonder if i could grow them outdooors in broklyn. it rarely gets below 20f here, and it hasnt gone below 15 in the 11 years ive been living here

Probably, with just a bit of wind protection during worst part of winter. You might also consider So-shan (Elaeagnus latifolia) and the even hardier Goumi (Elaeagnus multiflora). There are also bananas that grow in India up to 6500 ft. like Musa sikkimensis.
Oscar

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ross is the boss.
« on: March 10, 2012, 04:33:16 PM »
I admit to never having put any species of Sapotaceae under the microscope for careful description.

Based on macro appearance, I have always regarded the 'Ross' as a variety of canistel.  I like it a lot.  Mine is much slower growing than my 'Trompo' (9681 I believe)
and my 'Aurea,' and a seedling of 'Trompo.'

Antonio Morschbacker sent some photos of Ross sapote to Sapotaceae taxonomist Pennington. Based on those photos Pennington told him he was pretty sure it is a different species. Pouteria is a huge genus, and there are lots and lots of species that look very similar to canistel. If you look at Marc Rossmalen books you will see what i mean!
I also noticed that the Ross sapote is a lot slower growing than my canistels.
Oscar

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Don't get me wrong folks, i love Costco. All i was trying to say is don't make it your primary place for buying plants. If you buy one plant there i won't get mad at you, and i don't think anybody else will either!  ;D
Adam, did you try asking Murray Corman what the garcinia he sold you is?
Oscar

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia klotzschiana
« on: March 10, 2012, 04:22:23 PM »
Try potting in 60% silica sand (coarse large grains) and the rest peat or pine bark chips, maybe a dash of coffee grounds.

Also grow under a plastic roof, like some do desert rose.  This will keep sunny but not wet...u need a setup like this for sure Oscar...u grow too much crazy stuff!

This year I have my ice-cream mango like this,and the blooms aren't rotting (this is 2nd blooming cycle this year, first one got moldy and fell off, so I deadheaded, and it produced another batch)

This way I don't have to look like a member of the blue man group, from spraying Cu all over everything.

Yes you're right, a water proof area would help. But i still have the 100% humidity level to contend with that cerrado plants would not like. Maybe i also need an air dehydrator?  ::)
Oscar

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Mark, sorry don't have mature alupag trees to air layer. Best i can do is alupag seeds. Usually available July-Aug.
Oscar

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