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A day in Anaheim Hills
« on: October 10, 2012, 10:17:54 PM »
MangoDog, Ethan, Cuban007 and I spend the afternoon with legendary California mango grower Eunice Messner. Here are some pics of her amazing orchard:

who said the Edward was a shy bearer?

here carnival mango





MangoDog looking south towards the beautiful SaddlebackValley.


« Last Edit: October 11, 2012, 08:25:29 PM by JF »

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Re: A day in Anaheim Hills
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2012, 10:19:23 PM »
but those mangoes aren't on the trees now are they?? in CA??

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Re: A day in Anaheim Hills
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2012, 10:23:09 PM »
Yes they are....those pics are from today. These California mangoes are amazing. Adam those are Edwards, Carnival, and Thompson mangoes. And people say Edwards are shy bearers.....Not in Cali.

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Re: A day in Anaheim Hills
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2012, 10:27:05 PM »
thanks for clarification!

being in FL...i keep thinking mangoes are all done (pretty much).

I'm happy to think that I might be able to buy some fruits in November, from CA!!!
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Re: A day in Anaheim Hills
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2012, 10:27:40 PM »
You welcome Adam. Here are the incredible Thompson mangos.....I think Richard Campbell miss this one LOL

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Re: A day in Anaheim Hills
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2012, 02:24:12 AM »
An incredible day meeting you fellows and spending time with such an amazing lady, thank you JF.  The Carnival and Edward mangoes were just starting to ripen but the Paul Thompsons were ready and very good.  Smooth texture, very nice taste and incredible aroma, I have a few more to eat in the next few days.....might even share with the family? :-X  I have to say the Carnival mangoes were absolutely beautiful to look at, unfortunately they were just starting to change color so no tasting......yet.

Paul Thompson mangoes



Carnival mangoes still green unripe



Edward on the left, multi grafted PT with Carnival making up the rest of the mass.  Notice the steps to the right?  One of multiple flights that she traverses for her orchard.



The cherry on the cake, watching her select scions and graft up a mango.

la comida que bueno tamibien!

next time maybe cigars and dominos 8)

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Re: A day in Anaheim Hills
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2012, 02:40:49 AM »
Wow! Beautiful orchard and pictures. Looks like you all had an incredible day. It looks like her mangos are planted pretty close together.  What was the spacing like?  Dave

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Re: A day in Anaheim Hills
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2012, 03:03:25 AM »
Ethan,

Excellent pictures, sounds like you guys had lots of fun. Looks like a great orchard, those CA mangoes look very tasty.
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Re: A day in Anaheim Hills
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2012, 06:44:11 AM »
That is a beautiful fruit forest!  Thanks for sharing :)

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Re: A day in Anaheim Hills
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2012, 11:07:24 AM »
Male fruiting papaya look awesome, wonder how they taste?
Seems most of the sun exposed mangoes get burnt in dry CA heat huh?  Do you have this issue out in Palm Spring, mangodog?

What a beautiful place to visit, thanks for sharing the photos, gents.

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Re: A day in Anaheim Hills
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2012, 12:59:43 PM »
Looks like a really nice orchard and a fun day. I wished we had mangos here this late.

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Re: A day in Anaheim Hills
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2012, 02:09:19 PM »
Thanks guys, Dave, the spacing of the trees varied, some quite close others more normal.  Here is a pic of an area where someone went through and "cleaned up" the trees, you can get an idea about spacing.



"cleaned up" Carnival



Tim, yes, some of the exposed mangoes had sunburn, from the heat wave we had a few weeks ago.  I'd happily cut around any damage though.

Shared a PT mango this morning w/my son, yummy!
« Last Edit: October 11, 2012, 02:12:30 PM by Ethan »

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Re: A day in Anaheim Hills
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2012, 03:47:51 PM »
Hi Jf, MangoDog, Cubano and Ethan,

Thanks a bunch for sharing fellow members :)...Truly enjoyed them pics :)

Ms. Eunice Messner has such a gorgeous and rich orchard...them mangos look truly amazing 8)

First time hearing about Carnival and Thompsons mango...they truly look top notch 8)
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Re: A day in Anaheim Hills
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2012, 06:25:47 PM »
Thanks Ethan. Great pics. I like the way those are pruned. Dave

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Re: A day in Anaheim Hills
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2012, 06:49:00 PM »
What a great garden! I used to live in Anaheim Hills, parents are still there, I'll let them know of what's possible in their backyard. I'm surprised that the papaya can grow and bear fruits there, it can be pretty cold in the winter.

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Re: A day in Anaheim Hills
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2012, 06:56:25 PM »
Looks like the mango trees are located in a great micro climate. I can see in the picture that there is a lower elevation area below the mangoes. I am assuming that the cold air sinks down to the lower areas, keeping the higher areas warmer by a good amount.
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Re: A day in Anaheim Hills
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2012, 08:46:58 PM »
Nullzero, that is exactly what is happening at Eunice's place. Ethan thanx for posting the pics. Here are some of the ones that I took:

Carnival Mangoes






















Philippine Lakatan


Hermaphrodite Papaya. Never seen one like this before






Thompson Mangoes...very good tasting mango








Dwarf Cavendish


Carnival and Thompson in one tree








Edwards






Added three more mangoes to my basket...two Thompson and one Edwards.

JF, Mangodog, and Ethan we have to do it again soon. Hope the forum enjoys the pics.




« Last Edit: October 11, 2012, 08:49:16 PM by cuban007 »

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Re: A day in Anaheim Hills
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2012, 08:47:49 PM »
As you get closer to the trees there are Mangos everywhere! Eunice was telling us that the critters have decimated her crop.....they have no predators since the golf course adjacent to her property exterminated the coyote population. BTW, Eunice is the creator of the elixir cherimoya and coconilla and carnival mangos, all register.



there are many carnival trees here is mangodog posing with the ricolour carnivals

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Re: A day in Anaheim Hills
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2012, 08:51:43 PM »
Nice pics!  :)
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Re: A day in Anaheim Hills
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2012, 09:10:46 PM »
I lamented a while back the absence of experience mango growers from Socal in this forum.....I mention Eunice, Jim Neitzel and Leo Manual, among others. these pics are dedicated to all the new Socal mango growers in this forum. It would be nice if our CRFG friends from San Diego, Simon or Tim, our Global Moderator, could hook us up with some pictures of their orchard.

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Re: A day in Anaheim Hills
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2012, 07:56:38 AM »
Mangoperro really looks happy next to the mango trees ;)

Muchas gracias por compartir las fantasticas fotos :)

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Re: A day in Anaheim Hills
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2012, 12:34:57 PM »
JF - I would love nothing more than spend a day touring both orchards (Leo & Jim), though finding time while the sun's still out is key for me.  Nonetheless, we'll see what I can do.
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Re: A day in Anaheim Hills
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2012, 12:59:33 PM »
I thoroughly enjoy the pictures.  How are the trees irrigated?  About how old are the mango trees?  I did not realize that mango trees can do this well in dry Southern California.  And the colors of the carnical mangos on the tree are absolutely pleasing to the eyes.

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Re: A day in Anaheim Hills
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2012, 05:41:46 PM »
Thank you Pasca,
I dont know the age of the trees for sure but for some reason 30years old comes to mind??? The trees are drip irrigated with 1GPH emitters 1 every 4 days I believe.

Ate another PT mango today, mmmmmmm.

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Re: A day in Anaheim Hills
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2012, 05:48:43 PM »
Great thread guys.  Very nicely documented pictorily.  I thought I had been mangoed out from our summer season, but looking at your pictures, I am beginning to long for the coming season.  Thanks for taking the time to post.  It is very interesting to see the very different growing conditions/methods.
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