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I know that Asimina triloba productivity is definitely increased with sun exposure.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: 2018 Wild Pawpaw Watch Thread
« on: March 03, 2018, 09:36:07 PM »
Observed some more trees in Nashville area today.
Rhodes are in a wooded area. Flowers not nearly as far along as the tree mentioned above.
This is good, because we have a few nights below freezing coming up. Regardless, however, nothing severe that would do much damage, I think.
Took some more cuttings today. Going to be busy with a lot of grafting later.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / 2018 Wild Pawpaw Watch Thread
« on: March 01, 2018, 10:18:02 AM »
Kicking off the 3rd annual "Wild Pawpaw Watch Thread!

Hard to believe this is the third year.

The purpose of this thread is to document the progress and productivity of wild pawpaw (Asimina triloba) patches.
Anyone and everyone who has pawpaws growing in their area is welcome and encouraged to contribute.

I'll go ahead and get us kicked off:
Here in TN, we have had a crazy-warm second half of February. (Also crazy-rainy.) We've actually had a couple of days reach 80 degrees. Have not had any frost in a couple of weeks at least.
Bradford Pears and Chinese Magnolias are blooming as of a couple of days ago. Daffodils, etc are up and blooming.
Sooooooooo.....are the pawpaws blooming yet?

Last Sunday (2/25) I checked the "mother tree" in Nashville that I always keep an eye on. The flower buds were definitely in action but not open yet. The size of small blueberries. The flower "stem" (peduncle I believe is the term) was quite elongated on most flower buds.
This tree has always had early-ripening fruit, so perhaps it's ahead of other trees. I haven't been able to look at my local wild patches yet.

We have some cool nights coming up, forecast around 32F, but I don't see anything that would harm the flowers. Last year we had some 20F nights in March that really zapped things.

Fingers crossed for no late freezes.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Don't throw away those passionfruit leaves!
« on: February 26, 2018, 07:29:40 PM »
This is some good info as I have sleeping problems. This is partly why I work the night shift. Working night shift takes a toll on my relationship though. Even my days off I have a hard time sleeping at night and struggle staying up during the day spending time with the family. Where are you guys finding passion fruit at? I can't find any at my local stores to take the seeds and plant. Maybe it's not the right season?


Check your PMs. Cheers!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Don't throw away those passionfruit leaves!
« on: February 23, 2018, 09:50:28 AM »
Passiflora incarnata is the Tennessee state wildflower - but I grow it in my garden as a fruit crop. Excellent fruit when allowed to drop naturally.
Iíve found the leaves to be a little strong, as some have reported, so I prefer to make times out of the flowers, either fresh or dried. I find 2-3 flowers in 8 ounces of boiling water, steeped 10-15 minutes can have a moderate to high soporific effect. However, for me it seems it takes a
Couple of hours or more to really kick in. When taken immediately before bed, Iíve felt groggy in the morning.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tagging trees
« on: February 19, 2018, 11:10:45 AM »
Iím doing in the woods. Hundreds of trees out there,  so a map is not feasible.

Do you have a mobile phone signal where you are working on the trees? ie: can you visit a website on your smartphone while you are out in the woods?


Mark - thatís the same idea as a broadfork, yeah?
Did you do that prior to digging holes and planting I guess? How far out from planting site did you go with it?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tagging trees
« on: February 17, 2018, 12:31:13 PM »
 Good discussion. I need permanent labels for grafts that Iím doing in the woods. Hundreds of trees out there,  so a map is not feasible. I had heard of the soda can idea, but I just bought some of the aluminum tags from Amazon. Thanks for the link!

From what Iíve read, the current recommendation is not to amend the backfill when planting perennials because of this pot effect where drainage is an issue but also it creates a differential between the enriched backfill and the native soil, where the roots do not venture out into the native soil.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: YIKES! Fig damage - what's up?
« on: February 15, 2018, 03:15:51 PM »
Thanks, Polux!
What do you think will happen to this branch?
Should I be worried about disease with this injury?
I like to worry about things and ask questions ;D
But since itís a fig, I assume itís basically not a problem.
Though I would want to know if I need to sacrifice this shoot.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / YIKES! Fig damage - what's up?
« on: February 15, 2018, 02:09:57 PM »
I have a Celeste fig that was in about a 1 gallon pot when I planted last April.
I read about covering figs in the winter to prevent dieback, so I basically completely buried it in leaves.

It has reached 72F here today, so I went to remove all the leaves to prevent "overheating" per recommendations from the nursery.

I found on the main trunk some splitting of the bark:

Is this cold damage or freeze/thaw damage? Or "overheating" damage?

What are the consequences of this damage?

Thanks for the help!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Treating with root stimulant
« on: February 09, 2018, 07:20:56 PM »
Is there any value (or negative effect) to watering newly transplanted seedlings with rooting stimulants/hormones such as DynaGro KLN?

Oh no! Bummer. I didnít realize that about MicroKote

Jose, how much finished product are you wanting to make?

Enough to paint about 50 pots, 1.5 galons each.

Ok got it.....there are lots of posts here about root pruning paint so you've probably already read about MicroKote...You can check their website but from my experience with it, a little goes a pretty long way. May be easier than trying to make your own since you don't need a ton of it.

Jose, how much finished product are you wanting to make?

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Moving to a warmer country?
« on: February 07, 2018, 12:30:04 PM »
Count on Karen for thorough and detailed info, every time  ;D

Until you get to move, you can look for tasty things that might survive in your climate.

That's kind of what I did. I gave up on trying to zone-shift and found temperate relatives to tropical fruits I love: pawpaw (as I mentioned) but also Passiflora incarnata. For me these aren't just temperate, they grow wild here.

They both produce excellent fruits and are way less hassle than zone pushing tropicals.

Based on the maps above, these 2 would totally make it in Denmark.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Moving to a warmer country?
« on: February 07, 2018, 09:40:54 AM »
Welcome, Jeppe!

Are you looking at European destinations only or are you considering other continents?

Also, mangoes, cantaloupes and oranges have different climate ranges. For example, Cantaloupe grows great here where I am (Tennessee, USA) but mangoes and oranges would not (outdoors).

If you want mangoes you will have to be some place pretty warm. In the USA that would mean mid to southern Florida, parts of California (I believe) south Texas perhaps......I'm not a mango expert. But it would have to be somewhere without frost or at least very rare frost.

I love your enthusiasm and would like to hear more from you!

P.S. I would not be living up to my name if I didn't suggest you try growing Asimina triloba (north american pawpaw). It's a cold-hardy fruit with a definite tropical flavor and texture!!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Passiflora ID
« on: February 05, 2018, 09:37:40 PM »
foetida leaves apparently are lobed, though not as deeply as incarnata. So from the picture provided it would rule that out.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya from High Andes
« on: February 05, 2018, 08:56:24 PM »
Thanks Karen! Shouldíve known KSU would be behind those data.

Iím with you on the dangers of annona consumption (or should I say, effective lack thereof for most people)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Passiflora ID
« on: February 05, 2018, 05:29:32 PM »
I'm mostly familiar with incarnata but that doesn't look like any Passiflora vine I've seen. I would be looking for the 3-lobed, trident-shaped leaves. Maybe other species do not have that type of leaf.

Is it twirling itself up that tree or does it have tendrils? Not 100% sure but i'd suspect all Passiflora have tendrils - they don't climb on their own.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya from High Andes
« on: February 05, 2018, 05:25:20 PM »
Maybe Googer is wanting to do some grafting with Asimina triloba  ;D
I know he's into pawpaw.

Karen - where did you get your info on annonacin content of specific pawpaw cultivars? I have not come across anything that purported to list that. Interesting info. It's probably highly variable based on growing conditions.

John, I need to remember to try mailing you a pawpaw this season. :)

- Anthony

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« on: February 04, 2018, 02:08:00 PM »
Thanks, Har! Makes sense.

Also for the record, here is what my seeds mostly look like after a few months of stratification:

I've had a couple of pros tell me they've never seen the likes of it! hahahha Doesn't make me feel too good.
For this year obviously there's nothing i can do but hope for the best.
But I would like to solve the issue for future years. Still my best hypothesis is not-moist-enough peat moss in the baggies.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Really Stupid Question....
« on: February 04, 2018, 09:39:22 AM »
Thanks, guys. After more thinking and research (and your input) Iím definitely going to disturb the roots as little as possible.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« on: February 03, 2018, 04:08:55 PM »
Sorry to hear about the issues you had. Thatís quite a lot of adversity to endure! But sounds like you are bouncing back quite admirably.
I can relate somewhat- I think I posted here somewhere that last year my germination was awful too. I lost so many seeds that were really important to me.
I like what you did with your lone survivor. Not surprising to me that he survived the fridge. Thatís what nurseries do. If you were able to give it 16 hours of light daily, it mayíve woken up sooner.

My current dilemma is with my stratified seeds. The ďbusiness endĒ of the seeds where the root emerges (where the seed sac was attached) has darkened and to varying degrees ďdecayedĒ or receded. This happened last year too. In previous years I canít say I noticed one way or the other, but it caught my eye last year. I had the aforementioned bad germination so thought it may be related (though I had other major issues last year too).
After thinking and experimenting a bit, I am nearly convinced the issue is partial or early stage desiccation.
I have the seeds in moist peat moss in ziplocks, but maybe itís not moist enough. I was worried about rotting the seeds with *wet* peat but maybe I went too far. ...

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Do poeple in the west eat gingko nuts?
« on: January 21, 2018, 01:12:57 PM »
We have Ginko trees here in my area, but I for one have never heard of anyone eating them and have never done so myself.

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