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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Making changes after this freeze
« on: January 16, 2018, 10:27:44 PM »
I bet you a nickel your indian jujube comes back hopefully above the graft if it is grafted.
Both my trees really got slammed by Irma and I cut them back to a stub and both are already
over 6'. They even flowered this winter but no fruit this year.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: hard freeze /arctic blast for New Orleans
« on: January 16, 2018, 04:00:28 PM »
Hurry up and get a green house greenman, maybe then it will quit being so cold everywhere?
You can change your name to greenhouseman62 ?

I was 32F two nights the last cold snap but luckily only a short time.
I have definitely been looking at greenhouses. I look every day at the record low for
this area and today it was 28F and yesterday it was 22F. Its only a matter of time.

 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Which white sapote?
« on: January 14, 2018, 11:07:34 PM »
I live close to you around LaBelle, I have one called Supersweet and one called Sue Bell.
I've heard both will fruit well in Florida and I heard good things about Redlands, Both trees struggled in
the full sun and turned yellow in the summer Florida sun when they were small, I put a shade cloth over
them and they turned  green. Both have grown well and are around 8'. I am hoping for fruit this year?
Supersweet origins are Bonita Springs and should do well here. If you think the roots will stay wet plant
on a large mound, which I would say for any tree? Check with fruitscapes for Supersweet.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: And another one ...
« on: January 12, 2018, 10:41:44 PM »
Also looks like my Pouteria hypoglauca

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cleanup after the freeze in Orlando area
« on: January 09, 2018, 08:24:29 PM »
I wouldn't give up on anything, The bananas will come back. The bad news is if they frost back
every winter you will never get fruit.  You can always dig them up later but we definitely are not
out of the woods yet this winter. My extended weather forecast says 39F Sunday night. Hopefully
no lower because this year I have been running 2 degrees colder then the forecast, ugh 37F close to
frost temps and it's trending lower.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / sulpher application
« on: January 09, 2018, 11:38:28 AM »
I recently read several articles that state pine needles and oak leaves actually don't lower the ph of soil?
OK so back to sulpher. How much do you add per tree and how often? I was told a handful every 6 months
but I was hoping to hear from others on their experience. I plan to add only to trees in the ground.

Thanks for feedback



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Making changes after this freeze
« on: January 07, 2018, 01:52:06 PM »
The artesian well is a bit to costly for me. Here is a list of mistakes I have made in my project. This is for those interested in zone pushing. Obviously not planting sensitive Tropicals is out of the question for many who just love them to much.

1. Should have kept sensitive Tropicals in the same area.
2. Fewer Tropicals, tell self no.
3. Do not put to much faith in forcast timing, duration, and minimum temp.
4. If using burn barrels realize that its only going to be good for one tree per barrel.
5. Place barrel north or northwest of tree.
6. Place close enough to get maximum effect without burning tree. (Vary by wind)
7. Start small fires in barrels before the freeze hits so your not scrambling to get fires going during freezing temps.

Things I'd did right:
1. Wrapped trees and put 250 watt heat lamp in. Worked very well but could probably get away with 125watt.
2. Have plenty of wood at burn barrel so your not scrambling to wheelbarrow more in the dark.
3. Split wood burns best.
4. Have water hose nearby keeping wood chips wet for safety. We had no issues of fire but because we were behind we almost had the lines totally freeze. So use the hose frequently.
5. My Glenn mango is doing the best so far cause I positioned the barrel northwest of tree even though I could have been a little closer.

I know burn barrels will work if done properly. We still however have many factors in our lives and are choosing to make new plans without so much stress and work for cold protection. We will wait to see how things turn out before finalizing our plans. Oh I have a few mango grown from seed that were exposed 100% to the cold and they look much worse than those I protected on the first night. I'm thinking some of these trees are going to survive. We will see.

Would you consider a greenhouse? It seems like it could make life easier?  You would have to pick smaller trees to grow
but there are plenty of tropical trees to choose from? Also it seems like there are plenty of trees that would thrive more with
less direct sunlight in our summers

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chilly Florida AM
« on: January 06, 2018, 07:54:28 AM »
So cold that the green iguanas are falling off the trees they like to climb. They stiffen up and fall off. Also so cold the birds are wearing little mittens to pull worms out of the ground.

Only a few invasive iguana that i've seen in Martin County but they have reached this far north and I am not pleased with my little lizards being eaten by the bigger faster iguana. Also, the possibility of eating mango when bigger leads me to desiring there removal.

You tube has some cleaning and cooking videos if you can get them while stunned by the cold for easy removal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM6sJsb1jJs How to clean... Very graphic video if unable to gut a fish... etc.... do not watch this....

Iguanas don't eat small lizards
mangos are a different story
https://vcahospitals.com/know-your-pet/iguanas-feeding

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is your favorite tropical cherry?
« on: January 06, 2018, 12:07:18 AM »
The Eugenia are addicting and very easy to collect them all, I finally got a dozen
E. candolleana to sample this year and I sure wish I had 4-5 of them fruiting.
I also really enjoy the pitangatuba, E selloi, I have 10 plants and they have been
fruiting constantly for a couple years, It is very unusual and not for everyone.
I had a COR that finally fruited 40-50 last year and that is the closest I have had
to a Northern cherry, the only difference was the pulp was less per fruit.
I really enjoyed the yellow and black grumichama but like everyone said they
fruit in a small time frame. Another real nice thing is most Eugenia will fruit in a
pot and can be kept on the smaller side, There is so much variation in the fruit
within each type. Good Luck 

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First of all get the red hybrid type. I started 3 types from seeds last year and in the attached
photo you will see a red that is 9 months old and the smallest of 10 plants I grew from seed.
It is currently in a 3 gallon pot that I just moved up
 Next to it is a sabara that is a year old. The red fruits in 3-5 years and fruits year round.
Also the skin is thin and overall they taste wonderful. I have a 7+ year old sabara that had 6 fruits last spring.
 The 3 reds I have are around 5-6 years old and have been fruiting constantly for 2 years


The plants in the picture I give miracle grow to  every 1-2 weeks and keep in indirect light


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Making changes after this freeze
« on: January 05, 2018, 08:32:39 PM »
I am scared enough that I even looked at greenhouses. There are so many factors with the winters down here. And
even though there are countless studies which contradict each other I wish someone would admit I don't know how cold it will be
or I don't know how many hurricanes will hit next year. I like to read the daily record for my area every day. Today's record low was 25F
After we had 4 hurricanes the so called Experts said we were in a trend and to expect increased hurricane activity for the next 20 years.
This was followed by the longest stretch on record of no Florida landfall hurricanes???
Luckily I planted a bunch of trees 3 years ago and we didn't have a frost until this year. The more sensitive trees I try to grow in a pot until
they reach a 15 gallon and then I try to plant in the spring so the trees can get established. Another thing I try to do is I water 3x a week in
October 2x a week in November and 1x a week in December. My thought is the trees need a dormant period. If a tree gets hit with frost when it is dormant it will cope better then a tree that is flushing and growing? I planned to water 2x a week in January and 3x a week in February. I also plan to resume fertilizing in mid January to beginning of February. This plan didn't work 3 years ago when we had a 30F for 3 hour night in the end of February. I lost a lychee that year that was flushing and was already out of dormancy. I also lost a fig that was flushing, both of those trees were colder the previous year but were dormant. I water heavy the night before the cold and plan on the temps being 2-5 less then the forecast. Plan for the worse. I also have tortoises and I have to deal with them. Hopefully this is the last night below 40F, but the
last few years the coldest nights have been mid January to mid February? The Earth is 4.54 billion years old, after 3 years of data I can't
predict crap

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Last minute cold prep SE FL
« on: January 03, 2018, 05:46:19 PM »
Tomorrow night is suppose to be colder?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What Kind Of Custard Apples Is This?
« on: December 29, 2017, 06:13:23 PM »
Here's the comparison between the sugar apple and Lebanon custard apple. The Lebanon is massive comparing to na da sugar apple. That fruit is just a medium sized one.

I will try to bring some Lebanon custard apple seeds home. I will give these seeds out for free if anyone wants it. First I have to make it out of two custom agencies though.

Please put me down for a couple seeds. I surely will send you something in return. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My First Taste of Lisa Atemoya
« on: December 27, 2017, 12:17:56 PM »
I am full of envy!
I got my first taste of Lisa Atemoya last summer right before Irma leveled my tree.
I cut the tree way back and pulled a dozen unripe fruit off. The tree recovered so maybe
next year?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What Kind Of Custard Apples Is This?
« on: December 27, 2017, 06:57:59 AM »
 I wonder if it peeled or you had to cut it open?
How much did you pay per pound?


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Hi Everyone!
I am also grateful for this forum and it's members.
Happy and Safe holidays to Everyone!

Mike

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / fig cuttings
« on: December 23, 2017, 10:56:10 PM »
I have the following fig cuttings available

LSU purple
Tx everbearing white
celeste
white triana


limited quantities of the following
LSU champagne
LSU gold
LSU black
Violette de Bordeaux
St Rita

$3 per cutting mix or match shipping up to 8 cuttings $4

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Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / fig cuttings
« on: December 20, 2017, 04:10:26 PM »
I have the following fig cuttings available for $3.00 each
shipping is $4.00 per shipment and you can mix or match

LSU purple
Texas everbearing white
White triana
celeste

Limited #s
Violette de Bordeaux
LSU gold
LSU champagne
LSU black
St Rita

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Some tree's fruit improves with age? Not sure about June plum. I usually give a tree more then
one season but I don't want a fruit I don't like growing in my yard

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing fruit trees in pots
« on: December 20, 2017, 03:59:44 PM »
Perlite, lots of perlite.

This has worked for me so far. I agree with everyone, it doesn't matter how many holes you
drill if the soil is poor. Perlite is wonderful for drainage.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Winter Annona growth in Florida
« on: December 20, 2017, 03:54:04 PM »
I wondered the same thing. I have a Na Dai with a couple fruit developing now. Do they need
a cool dry period to fruit next year? After the hurricane flattened them and I staked them and
pruned heavy and removed the fruit all my trees have flushed out and I even have fruit forming on
the one Na Dai and a Lisa Atemoya. I sure hope we don't get a super cold night!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fastest Growing Sapodillas?
« on: December 20, 2017, 03:50:26 PM »
I have a couple silas woods and they are growing pretty well. One was top heavy and I pruned
heavy, hopefully next year it will take off like the other one has which is loaded with fruit now.
It has almost ripe fruit, medium fruit small fruit and it is flowering. What a productive tree!
I also have a haysa that is growing well and also starting to have constant flowers and fruit.
It seems like sapodillas are the happiest in the humid hot summer months. They seem to constantly
flush.

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Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / fig cuttings
« on: December 20, 2017, 12:15:29 PM »
I have the following figs and will offer them for $3 each cutting.
You can mix or match
shipping is $4 per shipment

LSU purple
Texas Everbearing white
White Triana
Celeste
LSU champagne (limited)
LSU Black  (limited)
Violette de Bordeaux  (limited)
LSU Gold (limited)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hog/June plum - Spondis cold tolerance ??
« on: December 19, 2017, 06:26:41 PM »
I have a red fruit type. It blooms late and I get fruit around June or July.
We didn't have frost the past two years and it barely lost its leaves. It was loaded
with fruit both years and I really enjoy it. The other night we had a light frost and all
the leaves are turning yellow now. I was told they will die back easy but come back from
the roots like guava. Who wants a tree that is always coming back from a die off every
year and doesn't have fruit? If we were going to have a real cold night I would take several
cuttings to be sure I didn't lose it. It is a very fast growing tree and very low maintenance.
I saw one at Ace hardware for 15 bucks in a 7 gallon. It must of been 8 feet tall so I bought it
and stuck it in the ground. The hurricane blasted it and I had to stake it back up. It seems ok
even with the frost. Hopefully we won't have a super cold night because allot of my trees got
pruned heavy and staked up after Irma. I also have a small tree still in a pot that is suppose to
be the yellow fruited one, I'll plant it in the spring. I saw that picture of the sleet at your place, how
did you make out? The last two years have been pretty rough for you!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ever blooming mulberry
« on: December 19, 2017, 06:05:15 PM »
If you prune them now and they flush and we get a frost you could
lose your crop? On a regular year without a hurricane I have had early flushes
that were damaged by cold afterwards. Mulberries definitely fruit after being pruned
I have 7 different types and I have never had all 7 fruit perfect in one season so
far. Last year we were so dry I had poor production even though I started watering.
After the hurricane several of mine flushed and fruited in the fall. Since you have 3
Maybe prune one now and wait on the other two?

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