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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dwarf Banana Dying
« on: Today at 08:03:17 PM »
you should cut off all the green above the corm, if that isn't growing, it will eventually be rotting and spread to the corm.  Some corms just aren't large enough to regrow, especially if they have failed a few times or have gone dormant too long.

Daily watering is plenty for a banana tree, just make sure it is full draining, check the dirt of the bottom of the container to see if it is dry by the next watering.

If open more than 10 heads, seeiing an overall drop of pressure evenly distributed, have each long line with valve, the star setup would likely work to help pressure drop  large scale due to saved distance, however I’m isimg a high pressure system, enough to blow the heads if combine 2 punps on 1 line.  Eventually may tie it all in like a circle with imtersectionas, but would need a 3rd pump.

set up 2HP 2” pump from pond, also used im combination with check valves with mitsu 1hp high pressure pump, and city water to irrigate sprayers.  Ran 2” nains, 1/2” pvc risers about 2.5’ above ground.  If restrict to 10 sprinklers, get about 6’ from head, opening more and get 4’, just city water can open slot but works more like a drip system.

I like that the irrigation water is also fertilizer, I raise a lot of fish in this pond, so will help clean the pond as well.  Because refilling the pond with clean city water, so far the chlorine from city water not affectimg anything.  I can reduce the pond by about 4” with heavy irrigation, which when refilled daily is about 3-5% of total volume.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Malabar Uvariya...
« on: January 30, 2018, 08:34:45 PM »
I just ate something similar at my place in southern Thailand, is this one scientific name Uvaria Rufa?  I have heard of superior variety to the one I had, and it was described kind of like yours, smaller. 

I just noticed too, even though it has thick skin the fruit flies can still lay eggs in when the fruit gets riper.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cow Breast Orchid, Uvaria grandiflora
« on: January 30, 2018, 06:38:33 AM »
no problems, the MedThai website lists that it the leaves and the roots can be boiled to cure stomach ailments, including an upset stomach, bloated stomach, and gas.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cow Breast Orchid, Uvaria grandiflora
« on: January 28, 2018, 09:36:15 AM »
I think  maybe like 50/50 seed/flesh?  Is there any way I can check more accurately, glad to help.
 At first I tried to eat fast like a sugar apple trying to work the flesh off the seeds.  Then realized if you just keep the fruit in your mouth it dissolves completely, no need to chew or suck or do anything.  dissolves just as fast ss chewing it.

looking through Thai blogs found several blogs crossreferencing cat nipple to other names in different dialects, however since I dont have the fruit not sure what is what.

From those different dialects found crossreferenced to these different scientific names:
Xylopia vielana Pierre, Uvaria Rufa, Polyalthia debilis

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cow Breast Orchid, Uvaria grandiflora
« on: January 28, 2018, 07:44:28 AM »
here is a picture from medthai website, it was trained over a car park

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cow Breast Orchid, Uvaria grandiflora
« on: January 28, 2018, 07:42:51 AM »
great word.. yes, a liana

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cow Breast Orchid, Uvaria grandiflora
« on: January 28, 2018, 06:02:08 AM »
it grows like a vine, most Thai people are convinced it is a vine.. perhaps I am misunderstanding the Thai word for vine.
Perhaps there is no word for shrub or woody vine in Thai, it is woody.  I took a cutting, not sure if it will take.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Cow Breast Orchid, Uvaria grandiflora
« on: January 28, 2018, 04:25:56 AM »
was gifted some today, taste like banana sugar apple, maybe a bit of soursop
กล้วยหมูสัง is most common Thai name, dont know if they mean Gluay like banana or like an orchid.
So might translate like Banana Sow, or Sow Orchid.
Name in my area is not standard, called Gluay Nom Wua, or Cow breast orchid.  Maybe they mean like nipple.
Apparently there is another variety that is smaller with less seeds, called Cat Breast orchid.

The only other thing I could ask for is an amazing flavor... I know of a couple trees that taste like Vanilla Creme soda.

One of the 'breeders' is that what you call?  He showed me how he identified 'aromatic' coconuts, these will be the ones with best flavor.  Because of cross-pollination, even just having two near each other does not guarantee aromatic seed stock.  So when the coconut sprouts, those first light brown roots that exit the shell, cut some off and crush it.  The aromatic will have a gingery sweet smell.  It helps if you have compare some confirmed varities, you will remember what the smell is.

Maybe if you are looking for amazing flavor, try to cross-pollinated, and then compare seed stocks by doing the crush root test, you can look for the variety that you want.

Aromatic Thai coconut, or Mapraow NamHom, is THE coconut to plant in Thailand currently, used to be only about the biggest coconuts, and people still compete every year for that class, but Aromatic has the best taste for drinking coconuts.  Only problem is they are small, and never seen one bigger than a small soccer ball.

found the chart, not very helpful since doesn’t list the sizes or ages of coconuts pictured....

Thai currey coconut is huge, but is round just liske Thai aromatic coconut.

Wonder if my small elongated yellow is Malaysian or Indian, was told it was Indian, some collectors buy sprouts in advance, so guess it is rare.  If just from Malaysia why would anyone care.

Pig doing great cleaning up, quartering the shells lets her get at it.

I saw a chart one once showing different kinds of coconuts, see if I can dig it up again.  Coconuts in Hawaii much different than ones here, but believe had the big round ones in Hawaii too, those elongated ones look interesting, and pink!  don't know what to say about that.  Besides the color is it worth planting?

coconuts are really so complex, especially if you have a few different varieties, I've been going at 20 a day for the past few days, reaching for one from each bunch and comparing.
I've been searching for the 'young' coconut that Thai people love.. it is such a rare stage of coconut, it is right past the water stage, but far enough that sugar has developed in meat and water, but has not turned the meat hard at all.

Personally, I like my coconuts sparkling, aged, with all sugar in water and dry hard meat.  I can see why people think the younger ones are sweeter, I think because the sparkling dulls the sugar somewhat. 

Some Thai people say sparkling coconuts are old, or sour...

Luckily my hope was lifted, that my groundsman who came to help yesterday told me also preferred sparkling.

Got "Gaeng/Curry" Coconut, NamHoom/Fragrant Thai, and Indian Medicinal... aka Maprow Luong, Tong.. ?  It is rare, likely very common in India

Even at 20 a day.. still don't know if I can finish all of these.

2 trees female and male,16-16-16 for 6 months now just letting the manure seep

papayas are heavy feeders,  they will use up most nutrients just get to 5' tall and get leaves, so just because they get up that tall and look healthy, they may have used up all nutrients available to get there.  E.g. just cause it looked good growing, doesn't mean it has enough to eat when it is ready to fruit.

So I was taught really put in 16-16-16 about a pound every month to help develop a big healthy trunk and root system, after that you can work in more organics.  I like to mound up sacks of manure and let them drip out every time there is a heavy rain.  I achieve this by creating a rock pile and stacking up the manure on top of that.  Otherwise it can burn out the leaves.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overmulching?
« on: December 15, 2017, 09:34:57 PM »
keep at least 2-3 feet away from the tap root, and then go to town!  It will keep out weeds, but water it heavily and keep it from drying up and heating up.  Some woods have natural chemicals that you need to be aware of before mulching.  Eucalyptus keeps away insects, Ironwood and other pine needles kill grass.  The quicker the mulch breaks down the better it is for your trees.  It is very good to expand on what you are doing with the mulch, check the PH and add 46-0-0 if necessary.  Add dirt to the mulch and work it in every month turning it over.  Turn some into biochar, or just burn some in a 'sawdust stove' and use the ash to work in as fertilizer.  Mulch heavily, then remove it all add dirt, then remulch.  All in all the microorganisms will break up your soil, but just be careful it doesn't kill your trees.

Also some trees have berries and other things that aren't edible but would provide a great breeding ground for gnats and flies, especially heat will help to breed gnats.  Flooding the mulch will help with that.

Or just turn it into compost, pile it high, add grass, leaves, manure, and cover it.  Till it and work it together every month and water it as much as possible.  Although this is the most time consuming, after a few months you will have a more quality mulch that is safer to apply to trees.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Flowering/Seeding Sugarcane
« on: December 12, 2017, 08:31:26 PM »
yes that makes sense, just went through a 2 week monsoon, heavy rain or cloud cover all day and low nighttime temps down to 23-25 degrees C.

This one likely flowered because the thinning stressed it.  The other clumps haven't flowered. 

Just wondering if the inflorescence is sterile, or if I may get seed.  Guess I'll just wait and see, nobody seems to crossbreed cane on this forum.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Flowering/Seeding Sugarcane
« on: December 12, 2017, 01:46:22 AM »
Don't think I've ever seen sugarcane flower that I can remember.. briefly read on google that most sugarcane is sterile from hybridization.  Is the appearance of flowers mean that it will seed?  If so any tips, thanks.  This clump of sugarcane was planted 4 years ago from a cutting.   The other clumps have not flowered, the difference I think is that I routinely thin this clump for juicing, but the others I just let spread out.

Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: Royal Palm tree question
« on: December 10, 2017, 09:25:20 PM »
For palms it is very important to also see the leaves, and how they break at the end or fold

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White jack fruit
« on: December 10, 2017, 09:23:47 PM »
I'm pretty sure it is Marang as well, some sellers before actually had some pictures on their sales posts which included pictures of Marang.  When I pointed out that the fruit in the picture was Marang, they deleted the post.

edit.. thinking of a different plant.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Asian banana varieties (small)
« on: December 09, 2017, 09:50:38 PM »
super dwarf namwa, fun for the kids

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Asian banana varieties (small)
« on: December 09, 2017, 09:45:50 PM »
there are small trees, and there are also small fruit... anything with the keyword Dwarf will be small tree.  Dwarf Williams is a much better performer than Dwarf Namwa for the size, much more resilient.  However I have a lot of Dwarf Namwa planted, and they will go super dwarf if you don't prune back suckers, however the more dwarf they go the smaller the bananas and smaller the racks will be.  Talking about 2-3 bunches per rack at 3 feet tall.  Pruned Dwarf Namwa will be more like 7-8 bunches per rack.  Dwarf Namwa taste is excellent, however when they are most beautiful they are only  semi-ripe, they need to blacken a bit to be fully ripe, very thin skin when fully ripe.  They have a very sweet taste with very little starch when ripe.  When semi-ripe they are bit latexy, but at that stage they are good for cleaning your digestive tract.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Banana/Plantain Macropropagation
« on: December 09, 2017, 08:26:00 PM »
Nice, this technique seems much easier than tissue culture, but I think I would just cut into 4th's and prune back to one shoot, don't need that many.  There is some debate here in Thailand about why some tissue cultured bananas are going to seed with many people saying it is because wild bananas are being planted nearby, but I think it is the mutated genes reverting... so another good thing about this technique is that it would likely not cause mutation.

I think will try this method someday, I spent a lot of money this year researching and finding every good seedless strain of banana in Thailand, even more than can be found on this site:

Some of the most expensive edible corms in Thailand are Namwa Dam (black Namwa), Tepanom (praying hand), Mahoi (double-triple flower Cavendish), and Elephant Banana (Tiparod sp.).

The Fe'i looks really cool, looks like there are many different kinds.  I have a variety of Gluay Hin, Saba - that has the same squarish angular fruits, but it is yellow which usually turns to black.  Recently cut down most of these and filled over, they are coming back up though.  They are difficult to ripen in my climate without turning completely black. 

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