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Some of you may have noticed a fruit that stevo posted pics of a few weeks ago. It was Pangium edule which the literature is ambivalent about the eating qualities and whether the consumer experiences ill effects. I also acquired some when stevo did and ate the fruit with trepidation at first and with gusto later on. I asked about the fruit by enquiring with seasoned fruit campaigners who did not give glowing reports of the taste and warned it might make me sick.
I found it had a soft mango like quality with pineapple and papaya elements and was one of the best tropical fruits. I suffered no ill effects after eating large volumes and was told by the grower that this large fruited Mariana Islands variety did not have the cyanide of other types.
As luck would have it the grower dropped a large hard unripe fruit and an over-ripe one for seeds to me today.
 

Here is the unripe one looking like the biggest mamey sapote or capuassu in the world.


Here is the soft over ripe fruit that I will cut open.



Yes it is too far gone to eat but is a bit like capuassu still..


The structure inside is not unlike some Annonas. Stay tuned for the grand opening of the currently unripe one.

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A few trees in my yard have volunteered for mulch patrol and left me with space for new trees. I seem to have lots of choices for the few spots I have. I want to plant either paulista,z4 or coronata restingia jaboticaba but am not sure which is best. I want to plant an Annona maybe a big orange or red sugar apple, soncoya or if Duguetias are small enough and have good enough fruit one of those. I have a choice of good chempadaks and maybe one of those.
A chum who grows fruit and who is going away to a cooler climate has offered some plants that I can have. Amongst his impressive collection is Chysophyllum imperial as in the picture above and Alphonsea maingayi. I am concerned that I am too warm for C.imperiale ,its fruit are not that good, they get too big and they have a long juvenile period. I don't know much about Alphonsea maingayi and my main concern is tree size and that it isn't monoeicious.Can anyone advise on this?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Bruno is a good Canistel
« on: June 15, 2018, 08:13:14 PM »



I have eaten some very ordinary canistels before and often they are the ones that look best on the outside. Those with moist flesh all the way to the skin, have bright orange/yellow flesh and have a pleasant rich fruity (not dry sweet potato) taste suit me. There is a big difference between good and bad canistels and I think Bruno has the best flavour and texture of any I have tried, The one in the pic has 4 seeds and 2 or 3 is more the usual number.

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Citrus General Discussion / Being bugged a bit too much
« on: June 04, 2018, 04:15:22 AM »
Growing citrus in my area is quite a challenge with lots of insect pests let alone avian ones like cockatoos.Numerous fruit piercing moth species attack my mandarins and oranges before they ripen. The foliage of trees is consumed by several species of large phasmids, whopping Valanga irregularis grasshoppers and even emperor moths. The following black and white (with bits of red and blue) swallowtail butterflies have their caterpillars on citrus in my district.

Dainty swallowtail, Papilio anactus (WS Macleay, 1826)
Orchard swallowtail, Papilio aegeus (Donovan, 1805)
Ambrax swallowtail, Papilio ambrax (Boisduval, 1832)
Fuscus swallowtail, Papilio fuscus (Goeze, 1779)
Chequered swallowtail, Papilio demoleus (Linnaeus, 1758)

The smaller aphids,and sucking bugs also give me grief at times but fruit flies and leaf miners are leaving the fruit and trees alone. Pinks disease is a constant fungal issue but we are talking insects now. Maybe may area and location are prone to insects pests and I do like butterflies. Are other people finding their citrus trees and fruit on the menu of insects a little too much? 

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Taking my phone camera for a lap of the yard reveals only meagre pickings.It has been the coldest morning of the year so far with the minimum aound 10c less than what it has been all week. Anyway take a look at this stuff.


The dark flavicarpa passionfruit are loaded as you would expect at this time of the year.


My Bruno Canistel has some action and this is a very good type being richer and moister than most varieties.


There are always a few papaya and this one is looking hagged from the wind.


The krasuey sapodilla is loaded and finished its last crop just a few months ago.It is hard to show the abundance of fruit in a picture





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Citrus General Discussion / A rare lime related to Fingerlimes
« on: June 01, 2018, 04:39:57 AM »
I got a plant from the market and received some fruit which a Brisbane grower gave to another forum member in Cairns who passed them on to me. Mt White Limes sure look much like fingerlimes but occur naturally around 2000km north of where finerlimes naturally occur. Mt White limes live in remote monsoon forests of Cape York Peninsula and further afield. They do have vesicles perhaps less developed than fingerlimes and the seeds are tiny being flattened discs around 2mm long.



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I have been testing the camera on my new phone as I have been surviving without a mobile (cell) forever or maybe even longer.While strolling around Rusty's Market in Cairns today I thought I would take a few snaps of atemoya as Thera and others have shown an interest. As winter started today fruit availability is troughing and times are lean.


I see some pinks mammoths which are all around 1 to 2kg so I guess the whoppers have been taken out.


A mammoth derivative,maybe Hillary white.


The large variety I cut open last week.


They are everywhere.


With plenty of rollinia and soursop around also.


Sam ru du is the only mango in winter in the market

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I have been seeing this large knobbly variety of atemoya in the markets lately and have tries it.It has few seeds unlike AP and Gefner and it sweeter and better quality than those. This one is well over 2kg and they get at least double that size with 1kg to around 3kg seeming to be pretty standard. Pink's Mammoths do get much larger but those in the markets are not the whoppers and Pink's Mammoth is mis-shapen and almost flakey inside such as in the broken apart one below and an intact one on the scale.





Could this be a new child of Pink's Mammoth or does someone recognise its variety? Maybe it is just new to my area.When I chop it open I will post a pic.

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My female Russell's Sweet Garcinia has flowers and unfortunately the male tree beside it doesn't have flowers. Without pollination the fruit are small being only golf ball size when they get ripe.They often have one or two seeds that germinate and presambly grow only females.
 


When pollinated the fruit are large and sweet.



My Luc's Mexican Garcinia also has flowers and at a small size and young age. Maybe next year I have a Garcinia showdown between an Asian and American champ.



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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-12/australian-native-bunya-nuts-great-camp-food-and-bush-tucker/9751602

It is believed dinosaurs used to eat the cones whole.There is a big season every 3 years and these huge trees planted around the towns and cities have had their cones wasted for such a long time. Bunya nut trees are one of the most strikingly impressive pine trees as well.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Plucking lilly pillies
« on: May 11, 2018, 03:57:48 AM »


As I strolled through a small Atherton Tableland town I picked a few lilly pilly fruit of the myriad of types that seem to be planted. Three trees in a row caught me eye and I think two of them are Acmena smithii and Syzygium luehmannii which taste like sour apples and the trees are festooned.I don't know what the pink one is and the more vibrantly S.papyraceum and dainty Syzygium fibrosum (which are alright to eat) were a bit high. The fruit colours and heavy cropping of lilly pillies make them yard favourites in my district even if people hardly use the fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / What you see when fruit sleuthing
« on: March 30, 2018, 03:27:21 AM »
Today I went around a few places looking for safu.


Picked up a twisted chempadak from a friend on the way.


Got a mammoth and a Mt white Lime (Citrus garrawayae)  from the market.

Went to the 'safu' park and no safu on the trees bit there were other things to see.


Cant climb up the big matisia tree to get these.


Or this tree.
Saw a big canistel variety and 2 mystery canistel like Pouterias






An Annons padulosa from my brothers tree today. Or is that A,paludosa?


Went to a friends place but his safu had no fruit so came home and consoled myself with limberlost durian from my tree.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Need for seed - Urban foraging today.
« on: March 25, 2018, 02:26:55 AM »


On the way home from Innisfail today I stopped at a park with friends in the rain and did some freestyle plucking. The model behind the matisia is a friend.The matisia tree was crazy laden and huge.


Nothing special about these Garcinias except the G.dulcis is not your usual variety.


Giant yellow mulberries


Oncoba

When I arrived home today a limerlost and a Penang88 durian from my trees (as you can see in font of that stylish shirt) were on the ground and ready for consumption.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Innisfail Feast of the Senses
« on: March 25, 2018, 01:48:54 AM »




 On a crazy rainy day in Cairns I went with a couple of chums to the Innisfail Feast of the Senses today where the rain was lighter/Anyway, there were fruit displays of rare fruit including lots of durians,mangosteens.abiu.pulusan.chempadak and other tropical fruits that you would expect. A great day was had by all and it was great to see the Fruit Forest Farm people doing a roaring trade in rare tropical fruit trees and fruit in general. Unfortunately I was unable to get any fruit or seeds that I was really after.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / kampong mauve sugar apple
« on: March 16, 2018, 11:36:56 PM »


They are pretty good and at $4,80us/kg at the Mossman markets pretty reasonable.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Time of plenty - look at these Pulasans
« on: March 16, 2018, 10:56:28 PM »
It is the season when durian are ripening and rambutans are in abundance and all manner of fruit are available. They certainly have been in my yard. Longkongs ,duku langsat and duku have also been fruting well.Something I don't grow is pulasans.I know seeds I got from a generous forum member in Malaysia in 2013/14 are producing sibabats and blacks.My brother acquired some from a different source today which were grown at 17s latitude and 400m altitude at Kuranda. They are more cold tolerant than popular opinion would have us believe if Kuranda is suitable.Anyway look at these.


They are not quite black but darker than most sibabat (seebabat) and I would assign them as sibabats.I guess that is the way it goes with seedlings.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Good keledang and safu
« on: February 20, 2018, 03:10:59 AM »
A friend has some great tasting keledang and they must be one of the most desirable Artocarpus.This one has very bright coloured flesh and a very rich flavour.The fruit in the picture in the handsome paw is just a small one.



I have never tried safu and I am told to pour hot water over them and then eat.The colour sure ius an attention grabber,




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Tampoi like fruit identification needed
« on: February 12, 2018, 04:22:07 AM »
A friend ask me to identify fruit he has from a picture. He is a bit over 100km away and knows tampoi but this seems different.Below in the link are some regular tampoi species.The posted pic shows some similarities to B.macrocarpa but the point and red skin are different.
http://oze.my/are-those-tampoi-fruits-lets-find-out/


His description of it is as follows : Similar segments inside like mangosteen and good flavour....almost more complex than mangosteen.
A positive identification would be much appreciated.

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Below are red hybrid,escarlate and vexator jaboticabas fruiting freely in my yard.The red hybrid and escarlate just keep producing without a specific season.I have rambutans,durian and mangosteen a'plenty at the moment amongst other fruits coming on.









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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Penang88 is a great durian
« on: January 21, 2018, 01:30:53 AM »
My grafted Penang88 and I forgot its D number is small,about 15 feet high and is 8 years old. It first fruited 4 years after being planted. My red prawn next to it is bigger older and sets far fewer fruit and none this season.Penang88 also has excellent quality fruit and is a prolific bearer. I prefer the fruit to red prawn and the main thai commercial types.







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / A taste of Myrianthus arboreus
« on: January 12, 2018, 06:51:05 AM »


I was asked to identify a giant yellow mulberry from a piece of the fruit this afternoon. The skin is like sandpaper and the sections are like a pandanus.


It is fibrous and there is not a lot of flesh.It has a pleasant enough acid/sweet taste that makes your lips tingle like some acid pineapples do.It is a familiar fruity taste with a hint of cinnamon .

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Ilamas on my trees and seeds sprouting
« on: January 12, 2018, 04:18:20 AM »








The last one is a cut red genova from last year.I am please to have fruit on all 4 trees and I have 3 varieties.




Thanks Raul the red and pink ilama seeds are sprouting in less than 3 weeks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / What the heck is this Artocarpus like fruit?
« on: January 12, 2018, 04:07:27 AM »


I was brought this aromatic 21.4kg fruit to identify today. It looks like a big brain with marang like skin tubicles .


It smells and looks like an artocarpus inside with rag but the bulbs of flesh are missing.


The seeds are small and I am reaching down deep and coming up empty. I don't know what it is.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Taiwan Gold - A big time mango
« on: January 12, 2018, 03:56:56 AM »




A friend brought me some Taiwan gold mangoes and they sure are big and they taste good as well. I clipped the seed in the cut one.
It seems to be a very late variety and unlike most varieties thrives in high rainfall places getting over 4000mm/yr.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / New Atemoya Variety Budsport SE Queensland
« on: January 04, 2018, 09:56:39 PM »
http://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2018-01-02/custard-apple-new-variety-struggles-to-meet-demand/9282268
I was not aware of this atemoya until reading this story. I am not sure just how good it is. South East Queensland seems to be an engine room for atemoya development and consumption.

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