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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / kratom cuttings oahu
« on: June 30, 2018, 11:50:42 PM »
anybody have here?  like to skip any interisland or import hassle

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Durian Season Now Southern Thailand
« on: May 12, 2018, 09:26:22 PM »
Chanee almost market price, 80 baht kg at wholesalerd markett (50kgs+)
I was able to negotiate some for testing for 100/kg
means wholesale price is likely 50-60 baht for Chanee, undervalue government projections for 70-80.

I wish we got some more varieties, Durian Baan will likely be available 60/kg, Mongthong still steady at 100-120 straight from the growers here.

Nothing wrong with Chanee though, delicious!

Durian Ice cream now available at my local sweets place, made from Mongthong

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Unknown Uvaria Trellis System
« on: May 11, 2018, 07:35:21 PM »
was old thread about how Uvaria could be trellised as a car park, was back at the airport amd year 5 of the Uvaria is startting to flower and look nice.  So took some pics

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Almost Killed my jackfruit with 16-16-16
« on: April 28, 2018, 08:57:03 PM »
Just 1/4-1/2 cup to a 8 foot tree burned up the all the tips.  I think it will pull through though.  It looked like it was doing a huge growth spurt so I thought I would help it out.  Instead lost all new growth but old leaves are hanging in there.  In the area it is planted also have roselle, it was unaffected, so the amount of fertilizer not really over the top I think.

Any other trees people notice don't tolerate chemical fertilizer?

I think kind of relevant, since so many international exchange here...  Yesterday was quote $4.99 flat rate plus the exchange spread to send $60.  It was funded by my paypal balance.

Wanted to get some seeds.. so what will we do now... has everybody else been paying the merchant fees, is that how business is done on this forum, or has everybody been doing f&f transfers.

check it out here
just went into effect the other day.

There are alternatives, perhaps admin can design sticky for standardized payment terms, looks like a cheaper alternative, but no buyer protection, but if you doing Paypal F&F there is no buyer protection anyways.

Note, this is just for international, exchanging money within US by bank or balance is still free by Paypal.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Getting Cashew tree to 'nut' not fruit...
« on: April 18, 2018, 03:34:17 AM »
Saw a post for sale about a Cashew tree vareity being sold, but it appears it is not a vareity, only has some special technique to not fruit, but to only form nuts.  How do they do this?  Or is this a special variety?  I have seem Red fruit and yellow fruit, I also have the yellow fruit kind, but mine always sets fruit 100%

By not 'fruiting' the nuts are so much larger!

hopefully pictures explain better ---

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Sauropus androgynus - Sweet Leaf
« on: April 14, 2018, 12:50:50 AM »
Is absolutely delicious!  I will be planting more.  I took 6 cuttings, all took and rooted easily under shadecloth.

highly recommend.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Artocarpus ID Please
« on: April 05, 2018, 01:39:52 AM »
not my photos, in my Thai group feed...  some of the fruits on the ground look larger, is this good to eat?  I think the guy is giving away seeds, waiting for a response.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Coconuts without Female Inflorescence
« on: April 02, 2018, 11:07:31 PM »
Came across my fb ag. feed... so sales for "mapreow" a unique coconuts, very expensive.  Coconut in Thai "mapraow".

Upon reading more, the uniqueness of the tree comes from a genetic defect that does not product female flowers, so the fruits and inflorescence look very interesting.

However was sad to read, that when planting these nuts, it will likely just revert to regular coconut, so a waste of money I guess.

Anything know anything more about this?

Here is a video showing a farmer who has two trees:

a stolen pic off google:

This is the thai word for it:  มะแพร้ว

I can not find anything in English about this, so I'll just assume it is a genetic defect that occurs in 1/100,000 or something like that.

Also a good chance I misunderstood, and it it does not have male flowers..., but I can confirm it is missing one of the sexes of flowers!  :)

title, looking for totapuri mango scion  from India

pay or trade

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Seedless Cempedek
« on: March 25, 2018, 09:35:28 PM »
so in the buy and sell forum some very positive review of seedless Cempedek, I have been seeing these very often the past year for sell here, grafts.  Now this week have ag. fair at the ag. university in my region, and I'm thinking now to pick up one.

I have very limited land.. just over 1 acre, so what everybody think?  Seedless Cempedek the best thing to happen to Cempedek or what?

My limited experience eating Cempedek is eating a very specialized local varieity from the town of Janpa, which is also the name of the fruit Janpa.  Some of the ripe aftertaste I don't like so much.  But it is usually deep fried here whole with the fruit, battered with flour and egg.  That is pretty good, especially the nut inside.  Long story short.  I am not a fan of eating that Janpa (Champada is standard Thai) ripe.

Here is some pictures, in case anybody knows what this variety is.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / conquering the muck and mud
« on: March 19, 2018, 11:51:05 PM »
I think I got drainage and flooding under control this time for most stubborn area of property., the canal diverts to usual pathway of floodwaters, but got two highgrounds both sides.   It’s 22 meters long by 2.5 meters deep. I plan to use this for irragation water exclusively and has water all year round due to small
underground spring somewhere in this area likely opened up by the banyan tree.

Now digging plantingholes 6 feet down by 2 feet wide.  Filling 70% up with manure, and then going with potting soil overflowing.   At least 6 premium planting tree sites have been recovered by diggimg the canal.

For back side going with caimito, and old side likely black palm or coconut.

Rainy spring 1-2 months away and flooding season 6 months away, so hopefully can get some goundcover going to prevent some of the erosion.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Artocarpus lacucha - plant or not
« on: March 16, 2018, 08:33:06 PM »
Got two saplings, seem to be doing good in my weather here, so far much more resilient to the the humidity shifts than Jackfruit and Durian.  How is the taste? Would you plant it instead of another mango tree?  I figure they need just as much space.   

Can they be pruned?  Do they need cross pollination?  Will they handle wet feet, clay soil, or occasionally flooding?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / nipa palm fruit
« on: March 09, 2018, 09:53:09 AM »
collected some sprouted nipa palm fruit today, near my pond I will dig some trenches, so the palm will be at water level and underwater possibly for a few months per year.   Hopefully takes!    I would love to start making my own nipa vinegar and the fruits are good for desserts.

These are self pollinating from what i was told, so relatively easy to fruit.  Not sure how many years until flowering.   Likely 3-5 like coconuts and sala.

Quite common here but finally right oppurtunity to harvest since water levels receded.  So was abke to just walk into the swamp, and to my luck seeds are sprouting beautifully!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Zanthoxylum limonella, more information...
« on: March 06, 2018, 04:41:31 PM »
I had two seedlings acquired cheap, i usually buy first ask questions later...
Both very hardy and fast growing, so decided to give 1 a shot in a poor area of soil.  Large diameter sand with little organic matter.   Dug down 1 meter by about 1 meter wide and added sandy loam potting mix, manure, and coir, better soil then originally im pot.
It’s doing well...
but long story short just read it is Dioecious.
Which just sucks, and I went through the trouble of planting one already.
Luckily sone said they flower in 3 years sonetimes.
How can I tell the sex of this species?  Can it be grafted?  Makwaen farms really rare to find scion.

I filled void with warm beeswax mixed with ash.

Should I plastic bag this with paper bag over?  temps here 90-95, but humid  nights from my misting sprinklers.

Growth very vigorous with mangoes at this time, so shouldn’t graft have plenty of water from cambium?

just amazing, will maybe cull fruit to get some award winning sizes


these are more normal sized of same strain, was seeing how 2 per hole would go

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Myriopteron extensum “Cha-Em Tao”
« on: March 03, 2018, 07:56:22 AM »
finding information online lacking...  I bought cuttings today, and the seller was talking about the fruit and how sweet it was, referred to it as a vegetable.  Said plant it any soil anywhere, I doubt that.  lLittle information found online talked wbout the medicinal value of the roots, but nothing about eatimg regularly.  Even my go to Thai language resources lacking, got to dig through Thai message boards maybe.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Red Vein Kratom vs. Kratom
« on: February 25, 2018, 09:34:27 PM »
So i was visiting my friends farm in Florida where Kratom is legal, and took some pictures. In case anybody wants to see how they are different,  I can say that Red Vein “Gan Daeng” is much more bitter, it’s like your mouth is on fire, for that reason it is best folded up and put in the cheek to break down vs chewing.

For construction workers and farmers in southern Thailand,  Kratom , called “Bai Tom” is like their coffee.  You can really tell when they havn’t had their Kratom for breakfast because work will be slow, sluggish, 3 hour lumch breaks or just never come back.  It really is strange that it is illegal here, because workers don’t show up with other illegal driugs, just Kratom.

Reason is it numbs pain, including “pain” from the sun and heat.  So hard labor is best done a but numbed.  Perhaps  some placebo effect.  Many people comsider it a stimulant, and it sort of is, you wouldn’t want to drink a Karatom tea before bed.  But I think the numbing effect is the real stimulant for hard work
to get done.

Whatever is in the Red Vein, it is just so potent that insects also stay away, green leaf usually has some bite marks, while you can see in this picture the leaf is untouched and beautiful.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Cow Breast Orchid, Uvaria grandiflora
« on: January 28, 2018, 04:25:56 AM »
was gifted some today, taste like banana sugar apple, maybe a bit of soursop
กล้วยหมูสัง is most common Thai name, dont know if they mean Gluay like banana or like an orchid.
So might translate like Banana Sow, or Sow Orchid.
Name in my area is not standard, called Gluay Nom Wua, or Cow breast orchid.  Maybe they mean like nipple.
Apparently there is another variety that is smaller with less seeds, called Cat Breast orchid.

coconuts are really so complex, especially if you have a few different varieties, I've been going at 20 a day for the past few days, reaching for one from each bunch and comparing.
I've been searching for the 'young' coconut that Thai people love.. it is such a rare stage of coconut, it is right past the water stage, but far enough that sugar has developed in meat and water, but has not turned the meat hard at all.

Personally, I like my coconuts sparkling, aged, with all sugar in water and dry hard meat.  I can see why people think the younger ones are sweeter, I think because the sparkling dulls the sugar somewhat. 

Some Thai people say sparkling coconuts are old, or sour...

Luckily my hope was lifted, that my groundsman who came to help yesterday told me also preferred sparkling.

Got "Gaeng/Curry" Coconut, NamHoom/Fragrant Thai, and Indian Medicinal... aka Maprow Luong, Tong.. ?  It is rare, likely very common in India

Even at 20 a day.. still don't know if I can finish all of these.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Flowering/Seeding Sugarcane
« on: December 12, 2017, 01:46:22 AM »
Don't think I've ever seen sugarcane flower that I can remember.. briefly read on google that most sugarcane is sterile from hybridization.  Is the appearance of flowers mean that it will seed?  If so any tips, thanks.  This clump of sugarcane was planted 4 years ago from a cutting.   The other clumps have not flowered, the difference I think is that I routinely thin this clump for juicing, but the others I just let spread out.

From the east morning sun coming through screen, midday afternoon and evening all get sun but through 60% tinted glass.  The whole front of office is U shaped and all 60% tint glass.  So don't think citrus would do well, but from what I read.. trees don't care about tint?  They just need certain rays of the sun?  Anybody else growing indoors with tinted windows?

Some trees thriving under shade cloth now at my house are Cacao, Coffee, and Brugmansia.
I figure there is definitely enough room for 2 trees in here that won't block the areas I need to walk to.  Also the roof is 6-8 meters sloped, but not sure if trees would like it up near the roof since no sun up there.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Nephelium hypoleucum - Korlan
« on: November 02, 2017, 07:55:48 PM »
Anybody growing Nephelium hypoleucum?  What's the taste like?  How does it fare with heavy rains and high water table for part of the year... can it be planted alone or does it need cross-pollination?

This and Schleichera oleosa came in my group feed.. a quick google image search shows it mixed with chili pepper and fish  sauce, not sure how delicious these 2 fruits can be then.

I have stayed away from Salacca for the most part in Thailand, because usually what you see in the markets is sour and used for cooking like limes.  So they are not bad, but just like limes you don't eat them alone.  I believe this is Salacca wallichiana variety.  And I also believe but not sure that in Thai this sour variety must be referred to as "Lagum."  Again I repeat, new knowledge I'm learning here so feel free to correct me.

And so there is another kind, "Sala".  Which I just realized is basically the same species as "Lagum" just a different variety, so they can be crossbred or used as cross pollinators... But when I want to find "Sweet" Salacca I should be looking for "Sala" and not "Lagum."

So for the last few months I have been bombarded by posts in my facebook groups of sales of "Sala Indo" which I believed was what some people have referred to on this forum as Salak Bali, which is self pollinating.  But I found out today that "Sala Indo" is not self pollinating.  Today I was in the deep south near the border of Malaysia in Trang, and found "Sala Nampeung (Honey)", "Sala Indo Black" and "Sala Indo Brown"  The brown Indonesian was smaller and more pointed then the Black.  The Sala Nampeung looks almost identical to the sour "Lagum" however the taste is excellent!

I bought 1 kg of each kind, and went through that all today.

The Sala Indo Black is very plain in my opinion, neither sour or sweet, edible though unlike Lagum.  It is very large though.  I would not plant this in my opinion, I ate quite a few at different stages, and even the sweetest of the bunches could not compare to the other two.  It is a bit dry.

Second place would be the Sala Indo Brown, which is also a bit plain but has fruity hints of like a green apple, but a green apple would be more sour tasting than this. It is also a bit dry.

First place, Sala Namepeung, or Honey Salak.  Now I must admit.. I have seen pictures of brown and black Indonesian Salak being called Sala Nampeung Indo, or similar.. so this is definitely a source of confusion.  But for reference it is skinny, the skin peels right off and does not stick at all, it is red in color, and usually contains 2 seeds, occasionally 3, and sometimes seedless.  It is very sweet, very flavorful, very juicy, and there is a hint of sourness, but it only accentuates the sweetness like a great pineapple.  The slight sour tinge is not astringent like in Lagum, and I am a good judge of that because I have sensitive teeth.  In fact I stay away from all limes, lemons, and bilimbi in my garden as these do open up the enamel on my teeth very fast.  So in summary, not astringent, but sour notes are present.

If anybody can point me to some verifiable information on Sala Nampeung, like species name and so on please help.  Also some people have said this variety is self-pollinating, so that would be great, as currently I'm interested in only planting 5-6 trees in between coconut trees.

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