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Thera that is good information. Do you have red sugar apples besides red chewies?

There are quite a few planted around the Cairns Convention Centre and they never seem to get used by anyone.

Wow Raul they look great.Is it the same as what you had about 3 years ago, with orange flesh and monoecious?

Marcus he just had one and I graciously agreed to relieve him of it. I didn't ask the source. I had seeds before from Sydney and Brazil and non germinated.
Thera I have a big duku 3 longkongs and a duku-langsat.Do you know what the orange skinned sugar apple might be like? Here is a tough question, how good are Annona stenophylla , A.senegalensis or Hexalobus monopetalus. I am looking as possibly sticking some of those in the ground.

Already have those producing fruit Thera. I know you are an Annonaceae whiz so would you plant Duguetia staudtii or D.confinus (which are big enough to be planted) for fruit or stick to American ones?

Karen some may say that Iceland is not a place for tropical fruit also but it is best not to assume or rely too heavily on written accounts. It wasn't a cyanide driven delusion that made me recommend it and all the requested information didn't come to me in an altered state from eating the fruit but I will relay some what I know.
The parent tree grows alone and took 8 years to fruit and it isn't large like a mango tree, but is highly productive. It may get large in time but probably not like a santol, matisia or pometia.  A 3kg fruit I previously ate and collected the seeds from yielded around 0.5kg of seeds and had a rind of similar weight. The flesh yield was very high and it was tasty like melting mango with other pleasant fruity overtones. There was no taint, little acidy or unpleasant after-taste. The trees owners consume large quantities of flesh without ill effects.
Soursop, cashews, almonds, ackee and many other fruits have also been accused of being toxic.

Thera thanks for the advice. The next generation of red chewies from you is about to pop up and it is the big red Mexican sugar apple I was thinking about.

I understand they are not fast to open their account and 8 years in good conditions is normal.

Some of you may have noticed a fruit that stevo posted pics of a few weeks ago. It was Pangium edule which the literature is ambivalent about the eating qualities and whether the consumer experiences ill effects. I also acquired some when stevo did and ate the fruit with trepidation at first and with gusto later on. I asked about the fruit by enquiring with seasoned fruit campaigners who did not give glowing reports of the taste and warned it might make me sick.
I found it had a soft mango like quality with pineapple and papaya elements and was one of the best tropical fruits. I suffered no ill effects after eating large volumes and was told by the grower that this large fruited Mariana Islands variety did not have the cyanide of other types.
As luck would have it the grower dropped a large hard unripe fruit and an over-ripe one for seeds to me today.

Here is the unripe one looking like the biggest mamey sapote or capuassu in the world.

Here is the soft over ripe fruit that I will cut open.

Yes it is too far gone to eat but is a bit like capuassu still..

The structure inside is not unlike some Annonas. Stay tuned for the grand opening of the currently unripe one.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bruno is a good Canistel
« on: June 16, 2018, 02:20:11 AM »
Raul ross sapote is pretty good and I have the trees next to each other. Bruno is a little more moist and sweeter.I would say both are of equal quality.


A few trees in my yard have volunteered for mulch patrol and left me with space for new trees. I seem to have lots of choices for the few spots I have. I want to plant either paulista,z4 or coronata restingia jaboticaba but am not sure which is best. I want to plant an Annona maybe a big orange or red sugar apple, soncoya or if Duguetias are small enough and have good enough fruit one of those. I have a choice of good chempadaks and maybe one of those.
A chum who grows fruit and who is going away to a cooler climate has offered some plants that I can have. Amongst his impressive collection is Chysophyllum imperial as in the picture above and Alphonsea maingayi. I am concerned that I am too warm for C.imperiale ,its fruit are not that good, they get too big and they have a long juvenile period. I don't know much about Alphonsea maingayi and my main concern is tree size and that it isn't monoeicious.Can anyone advise on this?

Citrus General Discussion / Re: AU Blood lime
« on: June 15, 2018, 08:51:58 PM »
That is a bigger size than they usually get and you don't have to wait until they get sweet.i thought Florida would be a bit warmer than their preference as they were developed in Melbourne (Victoria Australia).

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Bruno is a good Canistel
« on: June 15, 2018, 08:13:14 PM »

I have eaten some very ordinary canistels before and often they are the ones that look best on the outside. Those with moist flesh all the way to the skin, have bright orange/yellow flesh and have a pleasant rich fruity (not dry sweet potato) taste suit me. There is a big difference between good and bad canistels and I think Bruno has the best flavour and texture of any I have tried, The one in the pic has 4 seeds and 2 or 3 is more the usual number.

They do have a long juvenile period, are a bit touchy and are not vigorous. Maybe the cool Mediterranean climate and controlled conditions will be to their liking but I have a feeling it wont be the booming success some may predict.

I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for a harvest.I think finger limes will be a tough ask for them as will blood limes if they try those. Faster growing more vigorous citrus might do better.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are mature lychee trees less fincky?
« on: June 10, 2018, 06:27:37 PM »
some seedling never fruit. The range of minimum temps to trigger flowering ranges through say 7c to 15c and if you are not regularly getting below 10c flowering might not be induced. As a rule of thumb the earlier the fruiting season of a variety the more tropical it is so the late fruiting types don't fruit so well in warm climates.
Air layered trees have root systems just as good as seedlings once established. I don't think regular pruning improves the yield but just keeps them to a manageable size.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrciaria guaquiea
« on: June 10, 2018, 06:18:03 PM »
The seeds Stevo grew into plants came from me. I received both species of these in the same parcel from Brazil. I had received other varieties of P.coronata prior. It surprised me how different the coronate restingia looked with fuzzy new leaves and more elongate foliage but I decided to trust the labelling. It you are correct, Adam I have planted 3 guaquiea plants in my yard rather than the more glamorous coronate restingia.

Coffee plants from fruit spread by birds has gone a bit feral in some places in my district. The coffee plantations that were the source disappeared decades ago but plants can be found in nearby rainforest areas as an understorey plant in shade or dappled light.They are not super-productive and are often lanky .

In most places the government owns extra land created.

Oscar, are you going to wait for all the disruptions to ease and take stock of things before getting the business back running at capacity like before?

Now that is a great description. I think that like Citrus the taxonomy principles that apply to defining genera, species and subspecies are out the window. They are already divided into more species and different genera when they probably should be lumped on genetic grounds. The species cross freely and produce fertile young as do genera but it is convenient for differentiating if they are divided more on phenotypic differences.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« on: June 09, 2018, 06:34:58 PM »
The Hawaiian seeds came from the original trees in Russells yard and were large fruit with male pollinated seeds.They looked more like this.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« on: June 09, 2018, 09:24:34 AM »
Not necessarily if some nucellar embryony is going on. Some citrus and mangosteens are examples of where the 'seeds' are clones of the parent.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« on: June 09, 2018, 08:50:23 AM »
This one is fully mature with firm brown seeds and the last couple I had that were not as sweet seem to have coloured before they were mature. They were also much smaller that this one.

Blood limes might also be a good option.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« on: June 09, 2018, 06:36:42 AM »
No sourness at all and it was very pleasant.

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