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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit Cocktail aka 28-18
« on: July 19, 2018, 08:54:22 AM »
So if I've had Capri Sun by circumstance at various gatherings in my life, but never once craved it and thought, "I must go out and buy Capri Sun," does this mean I can skip this mango?

The taste is enjoyable, but Yes, you can skip this one. (Unless it turns out to be more productive and more disease-resistant than all the other good mangos.)

Requisite disclaimer: Your Mileage May Vary.

You should make a go fund me page or something and link to it so those of us who want to donate and can't make it to the tasting can do so.

Yes, please consider this. I'm too old to drive to Orlando, but happy to help.

My neighbor planted a seed and let both of the sprouts grow until one of them fruited with the clone. Then cut the bad one back.  I don't know if there are disadvantages to this approach, but it worked for him.

I was at a mango talk the other day where the speaker mentioned she has it on good authority (Richard Campbell?) that a reliable way to choose a clone is to choose an sprout that is neither runty nor too vigorous. Obviously you'd need a few to sprout to be able to compare, but it sounded like a reasonable starting point.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Zill adventure Tuesday
« on: July 16, 2018, 04:53:55 PM »
Dang. I should have bought a couple to try. From the name I was afraid it would be too mild.

So far I'm disappointed in Sugarloaf (n=3). They did not have much flavor at any state.  Perhaps picked too soon?

I had a Cream Brulee from Zill  today. Excellent mango, very sweet and a special resinous taste near the skin.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best of the New Zill Mangos
« on: July 13, 2018, 09:46:48 AM »
Based on a sampling of 3 Buttercream mangos that I bought last week, I like it a lot. I would say it has a classic mango flavor, so not unique or spectacular, but pretty good. Also large. I like Guava mango a lot too, because it has a different flavor profile than other varieties. Also remember liking Taralay a lot, but it's been a couple years since I have been able to try one.

In comparison to some other cultivars that I tried for the first time this year, it was easy to eat Buttercream at a stage that tasted good. (I tried Sugarloaf too soon (the flesh was nearly white though kinda soft), Orange Sherbet too late (it was still pretty good).

One other note about Buttercream. The ones I bought had plenty of fungus on the skin, but it did not affect the quality/taste.  (see below)

So how do the guava buttercream and Tara lay taste or compare?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Zill adventure Tuesday
« on: July 13, 2018, 09:24:36 AM »
Welcome to the society of mango fanboys  :D

That is so damned cool that we experienced a mango orgasm together thanks to Mr Zill!!!
I think you also may have heard me say that I had the same reaction to Sugarloaf as I did last yeR when Terry cut open a P Pleasure for me. I know you left for about 10 minutes then came back in so maybe you missed that precious moment? I actually said to Terry that talking to Mr Zill was like talking to the biggest movie star. Same thing you just said. Nice meeting you and sharing a very special moment in time and space/our lives.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit Cocktail aka 28-18
« on: July 10, 2018, 07:12:08 AM »
The Fruit Cocktail mangos I brought home did not have any tartness (but were still fine and will make excellent mango Margaritas come Thanksgiving).

Should I have cut them open when still firm?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Zill adventure Tuesday
« on: July 10, 2018, 07:06:15 AM »
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Zill adventure Tuesday
« on: July 05, 2018, 05:45:21 PM »
Thanks for this information.  A mango that's "easy" is a great thing, especially when sharing with friends and relatives.

One more thing about the Sugarloaf mango.
I think that I have perceived of another quality of Sugarloaf that is rare and that is tasting is so damn dependent on where it is in its ripening cycle that from one day to the next you could go crazy over it or say it’s nothing special or even dislike it. I think that Sugarloaf may stand out above the rest also because the window of ripening pleasure could be huge. And this is sooooo important because it stays green with the only ripening clue being touch. This quality will more than compensate for not giving clues to ripeness.

Thanks, Jeff. I am very much hoping that one way or another LZ will be available from my favorite purveyors.
My non-spray program was due to a lack of motivation. My diabetes got a lot worse, and these days I have to limit myself to about a tablespoon of mango per day.  :(
If I have more energy next year I'll get back on board.

I'm about 3 1/2 miles inland, backing up to a canal.
Some of my other cultivars look fine (so far). Too early to know how they will ripen.

Lemon Zest is seriously susceptible to bacterial rot, or whatever it's called. I'm guessing this problem will spread to your area at some point. Perhaps an effective treatment for this will be found? Hard to speculate. At the moment it doesn't look like I'll get more than a couple of edible fruits from my tree. (It should be noted that I sprayed no copper or fungicides on any of my trees this year.)

NDM is kind of boring, as previously noted. And it splits.  Rosigold tastes best if it ripens in July rather than March.

I have been unable to keep Venus alive. Your mileage may vary. 

My Spirit of '76 had a large crop of excellent mangos last year. This year it is again loaded with beautiful fruit. I don't know yet how they will ripen. I am hoping that it is more disease-resistant than, for example, Kent.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pina Colada Mango
« on: June 12, 2018, 07:49:48 AM »
What Squam said.   8)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Great Morning for Mangoes
« on: May 19, 2018, 10:00:25 AM »
Hope you'll give us feedback on the quality. Nectar of Neptune sounds enticing....  ;D

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Triple Sec mango
« on: April 14, 2018, 09:08:47 AM »
He also told me they’re renaming ‘Marlys’ to “All Summer” or “Summer-long” or something like that.

I'm happy on behalf of Marlys. Now she can wait for a better mango to carry her name.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Any drawback to Maha chanok?
« on: March 09, 2018, 09:52:20 AM »
Do the mangoes like Lemon Zest, Piña Colada, Peach Cobbler, cotton candy, ice-cream, etc actually taste like their names or is it a subtle hint of flavor?

To me Lemon Zest tastes more like a Minneola tangelo grown in Florida on sour orange or Cleo rootstock and eaten in January or February, not like the zest of a lemon. That is, rich, sweet, wonderful.

And  Piña Colada really does remind me of a delicious and fruity drink.

Little or no experience so far with the others.   :-[

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Least Colorful Mangos
« on: February 16, 2018, 11:02:56 AM »
I believe Peach Cobbler is a dull green when it ripens.

Full or mostly full bloom: Lemon Zest, Edgar, Dupuis, Spirit of '76.
Partial: Dot and Maha, PPK.
One to three panacles:  Fruit Punch, Guava*, Phoenix*, Cotton Candy*.
Resting: Peach Cobbler, Sweet Tart, Kathy*.

*These are too small to hold fruit.

I agree with John regarding sapodilla and loquat. Both are handsome trees.

Unlike lychee, neither is likely to stripped of its fruit while you're at Publix.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New acquisition
« on: December 08, 2017, 08:04:22 AM »

My poor attempt at humor. Yes, it's a loquat.

I'm hoping it will be sweeter than the Oliver I planted 30 some years ago.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / New acquisition
« on: December 07, 2017, 07:01:05 AM »
In a break from tradition I've planted a tree that will never bear mangos.

I'm told that Angelino Loqu is a small but especially tasty mamey sapote.

Thanks, Har. I see some fresh scratches on an otherwise healthy tree, so time to take action.

Also, I enjoy learning a bit of the science involved, even if it doesn't stick in my brain.  :o

The trunk does look scratched by cats, etc.  If it seems to be on-going, applying stinky sprays to trunk and soil might stop it.  Spraying trunk with fungices might give it a better chance to heal.

The leaves are deficient in pretty much everything, due to root starvation, from the downward movement of the sap through the phloem having been interrupted by the bark damage.

I have a volunteer seedling tree that I have experimented on now and again.

It has looked terrible for a year or so, but my question is specifically about what appear to be scratch marks on the trunk, about 3 feet from the ground.
I would assume that it's some kind of physical damage, but don't know what would cause this.

The foliage looks bad in more ways than I can count.

Can insects or disease cause the scratch marks?  Or should I assume that the neighborhood cats have settled on this tree as their scratching post?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Truly tropical top 5
« on: November 01, 2017, 09:33:04 AM »

I forgot about peach cobbler after the theft but all the positive comments here about PC are getting to me.

It's pretty darn good and I'm glad I have it, but if I were stranded in Lake Worth with only Dot, Lemon Zest, and one of the ZINC family I think I could still lead a reasonably satisfying life.......

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Truly tropical top 5
« on: October 30, 2017, 02:01:49 PM »
Where I live the cyclists use the bike trails, but badly.

They go the wrong way on one-way streets, and ignore all traffic signs and signals.
They never look both ways at an intersection or entrance. I guess they keep their eyes forward,
and hope for the best.

Actually, those cyclists who use the sidewalks also do it badly.   :-\

But that said, I don't think you really need to replace your Peach Cobbler, Zands. Sure it's great, but how many wonderful mango trees does one family really need?

I think that Alex and other commercial growers will be our sentinels as we learn how increased disease pressures affect various cultivars.

Have you considered Maha?  Not at all a traditional Florida mango, but I remember Alex saying that it has good disease resistance.

And finally, speaking of context, there was mango to be had last night at the tasting table of the Palm Beach Rare Fruit Council and it tasted marvelous to me, after having been mango-deficient these past weeks.  Guessing it was Keitt.    :)  :D  8)

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