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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pics from the garden
« on: March 17, 2018, 10:26:30 AM »
Dang, you are correct Brandon. They were more obvious in the morning sun. Hosed away the ants and aphids, rinse, and repeat. Had to be careful to find the right setting and pressure that gets the bugs but doesn't damage the flowers.

This tree has been largely just left on its own. Gets some of the well fed sprinkler, occasional watering from me, and has been fertilized maybe once in 2 years.  Kind of surprised it is flowering.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pics from the garden
« on: March 16, 2018, 08:12:42 PM »
Macadamia (beaumont) just started flowering, woohoo!

Some big ants on them. Any chance they are pollinators or should I blast em with the hose?

My incarnata is huge and blooms like crazy, yet haven't seen a single fruit yet.

So far, Panama Red has been the tastiest I've tried. Good producer too.

Waiting for orgiant, nitida, and laurifolia to flower and fruit.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pics from the garden
« on: March 15, 2018, 09:02:41 AM »
Yeah, I was thinking the same. Not sure which variety(ies) of chrysophyllum they are but the morphology is pointing in that direction. I guess we will find out soon. Good luck- Chris

Okay, thanks! That makes sense, never thought that black sapote and caimito were that similar before, so was surprised to find myself uncertain as to which was which. Going to do some grafting on these puppies and the much larger in-ground tree that is growing well but has yet to flower. Thinking DPI Gold and Juicy Pearl.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pics from the garden
« on: March 14, 2018, 11:43:58 PM »
I would say those are both caimito. Black sapote leaves are waxy and the bottoms are a lighter shade of green than the dark green tops. The leaves are generally flat and caimito's have ribbing.  Caimito leaf bottoms have distinctly different coloring from the tops. The new growth on the larger specimen also looks like caimito. I am not the best at recognizing foliage though.

Thanks for your appraisal.

So you think they're both caimito? Its certainly possible, but they have to be different cultivars. I was thrown off when realized they both looked bronze on the underside of the leaves. The smaller one is more pronounced bronze to me.

Both trees were neglected for quite a while, needed repotting, a bit dry, with some scale on the leaves. Think they will bounce back nicely with new pots and a lil care.

Anything else anyone can think of that looks a lot like caimito?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pics from the garden
« on: March 14, 2018, 10:23:56 AM »
Hello everybody.

I could use some help identifying these 2 small trees. One should be black sapote, the other purple caimito grown from a seed from PIN. The marker on one of the tags is unreadable, and the other one disappeared in all the mayhem and confusion associated with hurricane Irma. Thought looking on the bottom of the leaves would clarify, but they look so similar. I am left uncertain. Please share your impressions.

I think the one on left, with larger leaves, is the black sapote, and the one on the right is caimito.

Underside of larger leaf specimen

Underside of smaller leaf specimen

That's good news JR, as my ON is covered in flowers and can't wait to try it. From what I've heard and read, think ON, along with lots of mangoes, grows and fruits differently here than in other parts of the country. So the out-of-state reviews may not apply to us that much, and vice-versa.

The op probably will want to listen to Mark, as their climates and conditions are likely more similar.

If you are buying on that scale, and selling anything, maybe you can buy plants at wholesale prices? Not sure how this applies to nurseries and agriculture, but years ago my wife and I started a small clothing business, obtained a tax id #, and were able to buy materials and other needed items at wholesale.

Another option is eBay. Some sellers might cut their prices down further if you buy in bulk. Some are local to FL.

Good luck with the projects. You are in a great place to grow. enjoy

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cacao Tree Loaded with Pods
« on: March 05, 2018, 07:11:39 PM »
So nice. dream of the day my cacaos look even half that good. One pod would have me doing flips. They are starting to come back, but have only seen one flower in 1.5 years. I salute you

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Any drawback to Maha chanok?
« on: March 05, 2018, 07:07:26 PM »
Roblack I have minimal experience with grafting and I am worried if I try top work a mango tree I might butcher it

My experience with grafting is rather limited as well, so someone else should chime in and show the way.

I just found some stalks that were around the same size as the scions received, clipped them near enough to the ends where green was still noticeable on the outside, cut a slit down the middle, and placed a v-shaped wedge of the budwood down into the cut. Then buddy taped them as well as could. Its been about 10 days now, they look good but too early tell if the grafts took. Was advised to wait until it gets hotter to graft, but came across some scions and jumped. hth

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cutting panicle on young mango trees
« on: March 05, 2018, 07:32:56 AM »
I've been told it is best to not cut the panicle, but to pick off the tiny mangoes and leave the panicle intact.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Music to plant your Mangoes by
« on: March 04, 2018, 02:33:46 PM »
Maybe that's my problem. It's like I've been blastin "Killing in the Name Of"

Pine Island Nursery  - huge place in Miami area

Last time I was at Pine Island they did not mind if you wandered around and gawked. I am not 100% sure they have the same policy but they probably do.

I like to gawk while riding shotgun in the golf cart =)

Pine Island Nursery is worth checking out if you want to be able to buy something. Fruit and Spice Park and Fairchild are great for just walking around and viewing beautiful plants.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Any drawback to Maha chanok?
« on: March 02, 2018, 07:03:09 AM »
If you topwork a tree, you can keep your word regarding not planting any more fruit trees. That's what I did =)

Great news! My tree is struggling, so going to make some soil amendments and maybe dig up and try your method. Can't wait to see pics and hear about your tasting. Best of luck and thanks for sharing.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona grafting and rain question
« on: February 28, 2018, 10:21:38 AM »
I'm not sure about letting a rootstock plant dry off before grafting, but do not think it is a problem. I would probably pat with a paper towel if wet, and then graft without worries. Rainwater/watering is definitely not a problem, you do not need to cover it with anything to protect from the rain. Some plants you may want to cover with shade cloth to prevent too much sun.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pics from the garden
« on: February 27, 2018, 07:45:33 AM »
10-4 good buddy. That's affirmative on avocado flowers. Chris

Woohoo! Thank you Chris. Very good news indeed. Have yet to try ON, but have heard good things about it when grown in this area.

Weekend forecast has high 50's overnight for South Miami area. Is that cold enough to help with blooms?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pics from the garden
« on: February 26, 2018, 01:38:41 PM »
Thanks Brandon, we had a good time. Friend's angie is already in-ground, and all grafts complete.

Think oro negro is finally blooming. Can anyone confirm these are avocado flowers?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: SaveMeJebus Yard Tour: 2018 Update
« on: February 26, 2018, 01:20:03 PM »
Beautiful garden and amazing mix of plants. Your coconut cream gives me much hope! thanks for posting.

I made concrete posts.   They work very well. The roots adhere to the concrete very well. No burlap needed.   I tried to make my posts not have something on top but realized that they needed something on top for support as the plants cascaded down. So I put a long piece of rebar inside the concrete as I made it and had that rebar protrude up through the top middle of the concrete which gave me an attachment point for  A pressure-treated wooden post which I drove rebar through and put hog wire on the rebar.


You might want to cover the top thin metal wires with something, as they will dig into the vine's flesh once they start to hang over and fruit, making them quite heavy.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pics from the garden
« on: February 24, 2018, 12:40:01 PM »
Wanted to send out a big "Thank You!" to Brandon aka cbss_daviefl for hooking me up yesterday. Beautiful private backyard "nursery" with a ton of tropical fruit trees. Got a tour of the grounds and learned a bit. Well worth the drive.

Picked up this beautiful red hybrid jabo.

Already flowering and fruiting

Jabo sprouts. Are these separate plants or are they part of the mother plant?

Also picked up a few Maha Chanok scions, added to nam doc mai 4. Think I overdid it with the buddy tape, lol.

Also acquired some dream atemoya scions, added to Gefner last night. And my friend got a beautiful angie mango to replace the one that Irma took out.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pics from the garden
« on: February 24, 2018, 12:27:37 PM »
Thanks Sam, I love growing plants, and they tend to be forgiving with me for some reason.

Agree, sapodilla is a beautiful tree that usually is overlooked by fruit bandits. However, there are a few large trees down the street, and have seen a guy pulled over on the side of the road, and then later climbing the trees to nab fruit. Not as prolific as the mango bandits, but they are out there.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Coconut Cream Mango tree
« on: February 23, 2018, 02:07:58 PM »
Thanks Johnny and Marley, that is good news. Mine gets full sun only part of the day, but is growing well. Going to baby it and see if can get it to fruit next year.

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