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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango blooms: spray or nay?
« on: February 01, 2023, 02:08:35 PM »
I have some powdery mildew on some panicles on my Glenn mango.  I don't spray (no time to deal with that and don't want to deal w/chemicals myself), should I remove the affected panicles or spray the tree with water (recommended in a Truly Tropical video).  My tree has many panicles and most look OK for now.  Will the PM infect the other panicles?


Glen will usually set fruit through PM unless its really infected. If you want to be sure you are getting a good crop you should make the time to spray sulfur or anything that works on PM. 

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Thank you for the input Alex.

I need to try a few more Angie but I do remember liking it a lot and had grafted a couple pieces to my Carrie but accidently trimmed them off.  Maybe I will just cut the tree back and do a few more Angie grafts to be sure I get something out of the tree every year.

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I know it's the most divisive mango out there! Love it /hate it, cat vomit or top 10 !

Personally, I love a good Carrie mango if you can pick it correctly and catch in the 48 hour window of " just right" but for the last three years my tree has been a Dud as far as producing. I haven't seen any of the others in my neighborhood do much either. It seems that they just arn't setting any fruit around here,( Merritt island). I am seriously considering top working the tree to something that is more productive, ( sugar loaf, tripplesec, honey kiss, also open to suggestions) Mine used to make buckets of them but now all the ones i know of close by have all stopped setting fruit and its not form a lack of trying or spraying. There is so much pollen in the air around mine a have to breath through my Shirt to look to see if anything has set.

If you hate it, OK i get it, tell me something better.

 If you love it, also tell me something better!

Is anyone else having the same issue?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Copper Fungicide - too much?
« on: January 30, 2023, 02:01:29 PM »
 Too much. dilute it and spray more strategically. It looks like that tree needs a few more seasons to grow before you let it hold more than a handful of mangos and I wouldn't think it was necessary to spray copper on the tree until its of a size that it should be " in production". Also, I personally don't use copper until the threat of anthracnose is near. As in hot humid and rainy, the cool dry weather is when Powdery mildew sneaks in. one day you are good and the next all of your susceptible trees are devastated. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango blooms: spray or nay?
« on: January 30, 2023, 01:49:46 PM »
Spray, spray and spray.  However, if your trees are young and not very big or established just left them do there thing, see how the disease pressures are in your yard. If you spray small trees they will use up all their energy to push out just a couple mangos that you may or may not get to eat and then struggle to put out vegetative growth. If you let them be and let them grow they will be that much closer to being ready to hold a worth while amount of fruit. I continue my nutritional regiment on my not ready to hold fruit trees and cut off the fruit after the last of the cold weather is done and then tip/shape them every second flush until they look like an actual tree.  If your trees are trees and you think they should be putting out a bunch of fruit but don't , you probably need to have plan to spray them and make sure they are getting the MICRO,s they need. I use plain old wetable powdered sulfur in my sprayer for Powdery mildew, first a little diluted to sanitize the trees when the panicles first start to push (maybe an inch or so or before, Hard to time it perfectly with every tree in the yard.)   Again when they are to about the 3/4 to full but not open and lastly when they have set fruit but not if they blooms are open and no fruit has set yet. if i see PM growing spray as needed. The sulfur helps to acidify the soil as it washes off and helps the trees take up nutrients as long as your soil PH isn't already too low. ( Dont use sulfur on lemon zest! it burns the leaves, Ironically LZ is very susceptible to PM. I use a product called CEASE and it seems to do a very good job and I believe it is ok for organic)

As far as for anthracnose, Spray copper if you want but I prefer to do it lightly and less often. Copper is a necessary micro but too much of it will hurt the roots of the tree and will stay in the soil for a very long time ( It is used to kill roots in septic drain fields and tanks) I think the CEASE/ Serenade also does a good job with anthracnose control and provides Beneficial's to the soil health as well, but it isn't cheep. There are a lot of fungicides out there and some of them have a lot of horse power but i reserve those for as needed to treat known issues when other more organic methods are not working as they are hard on the pollinators. ( The Bee's, man the Bee's. AKA, the most important creature on earth)


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  I have only had Keitt and Beverly but by far the winner would be the Beverly, Both are reported to have issues with MBBS but I have not had any issue so far. Both are older cultivators but are still talked about for a good reason.

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I still have quit a few Carries, sweet tart and Beverly, just picked the last seacrest, M4, in Merritt island.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« on: August 03, 2021, 04:32:11 PM »
Just ate the first two M4 mangos from my yard. Picked mature green( fell off in my hand) I waited until they got soft and almost wrinkly. The flesh was a dark yellow, skin was thick and tough and the flavor was amazing. I thought it was alot like a very well ripened E4, sweet, very coconuty with a nice texture. I did not spray the tree to control any fungus and the fruit was clean with no issues. with the production issues of my coconut cream I would have chose this for the front yard if I had known then what I know now.  Fantastic mango!

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Don't know if you can see them but it has about 6 mangos still hanging on it.  It looks like a seedling to me. 1

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So after a few seasons to make sure it wasn't just a fluke im excited to report that I have stumbled upon a veriety that produces delicious mangos in winter. It has done so for several seasons in a row, not a motherload of them but enough to warrant a real evaluation and a determination of whether it is a new or forgotten veriety.

The tree is likely between 30 and 40 years old, and 30 pluss feet tall. planted in the yard of a home built in the early 60's in merritt island, the current owner who has lived at the property for 8 years and was not passed on any info on the tree.

The tree produces a bountiful summer crop without being sprayed, some anthrcnose susceptibility but the skin seems to keep it out of the flesh. The summer crop is certainly more flavorful but the winter crop is still fantastic. I would put it in the classic sweet profile with fiber comparable to certain commercial veriety but not objectionable. 

I will continue to update with an in depth evaluation as the season unfolds. Unfortunately there are no more fruit on the tree this winter, but I will post pictures and keep track of its progress.

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Hey all I’m curious if anyone can tell me the best place to get buddy tape and other grafting equipment. Mainly I have read about a tool that supposedly makes a perfect cleft out of both the root stock and the perfect fit from the scion to go into said cleft. I’m looking for a reliable safe place to buy online and get these items shipped as well as if any of you have any experience with a tool like this. Thanks so much.

Chris,

I bought one of those type tools and it was a waist of money. Watch the grafting videos from truly tropical, she uses a new clean razor blade. I do the same, its cheep, sharp and works well for cleft or side veneer grafting. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: M4 or Coconut Cream
« on: May 08, 2020, 10:33:06 AM »
Love Coconut Cream. Heard M4 flavor is superior.
What about production and disease resistance?
Any advice on making the best choice?

Try before you buy. your close enough to go tropical acres or truly tropical and compare both varieties.  Get the one you like the taste of the most, every thing else between the two is second to your love of the fruit.  you can always learn to graft and change your mind later as well but coconut cream does reportedly have a week point in the graft union that can cause your tree to snap off at the graft point and leave you with a very low to the ground stump for grafting back on to.  that being said, I have both and love both. coconut cream is slow to get producing in any quantity but well worth the struggle.   

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I kind of had the same question about sweet tart, the sibling of K3. Full shoulders, browning of the stem near the fruit, and the obvious color changes are what I look for. Need to get them before the squirrels!


 The squirrels love sweet tart and cac in my yard too, they seem to favor the indo chines flavor mangos well before they are even close to being harvestable. also got my very few peach cobblers. little tree rats!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2020 Mango Season (Florida)
« on: February 21, 2020, 05:08:29 PM »
Peach cobbler starting to bloom, the first bloom only has two pea size mangoes on it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2020 Mango Season (Florida)
« on: February 03, 2020, 05:16:48 PM »
Spotty bloom in merritt island so far but this cold spell should fix that. Carrie in my yard had a full bloom but seems to have failed to set any fruit, so disappointing. Ill have to check around the other Carries but I think they are all going to be the same.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is Angie a Top-Tier Mango?
« on: July 01, 2019, 03:16:54 PM »
We all know taste is subjective but ive never tasted carrot in one, it was more reminiscent of apricot to me.  I have only had a few though.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Truth About Kryptonite Mango
« on: June 29, 2019, 07:17:47 PM »
The Kathys I have had this year have been fantastic. I still favor sweet tart but Kathy is number two for me in the Indochinese profile.

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Don't hold back!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is Angie a Top-Tier Mango?
« on: June 29, 2019, 10:16:28 AM »
I purchased two Angie from Alex this season that were outstanding. Picked and ripened properly, on the firm side of ripe and made it to the top tier for me. Top tier but not top 10.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: PPK mango tree not growing.
« on: June 11, 2019, 11:23:03 AM »
Is it getting full sun?

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CC is an awesome mango. Keep trying.

I've never had a great Sweet Tart, still waiting.

Same goes for Sweet tart.

 It is a science to pick and ripen them for optimal flavor but once you get it figured out hold on to your socks.
I like them a little on the tart side (and have squirrels) so I pick them as soon as they start to turn yellow and ripen on the counter. Of course the longer you let them go the sweeter they are but still a punch in the mouth, without a doubt my favorite INDO/Chinese flavored mango.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: PPK mango tree not growing.
« on: June 11, 2019, 11:09:54 AM »
So I bought a 3 gallon ppk/lemon meringue mango tree sometime in Feb, I put it in the ground and it has yet to put on any new growth. The tree overall looks healthy but I am puzzled as to why the thing has not grown at all in the past 5 months or so. I have been giving it water since we have not been getting any but I also tried not watering it for a couple weeks to see if that would make it start growing, nothing happened. What do you guys think? All of my other mango trees are putting on new growth like crazy, they are however mature trees.

I am thinking about giving it until july/august and then it is getting replaced with another ppk.

I planted a healthy looking 3gl cogshall two years ago and it did not budge for a whole year, now it is growing like a wild fire. It is likely just getting established and putting all of it's energy into rooting, Next summer it should go nuts. Be careful not to over fertilize it. I have killed several you mango trees that way, Hard lesson to learn.

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Just had my 1st coconut cream mango , I was  anxiously  Awaiting to taste the rich coconut taste that we love in Certain Mangoes, none of Up ( my family ) tasted a hint of Coconut 🤧, My Pickering blew that one away .

I hope the others I purchased have that intense coconut taste that folks have described .

The southern Blush was good had a classic mango taste .

Ed
Like any other mango it can have off years. Mine so far have just been ok this year but the later ones will get better as it goes.

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Southern Blush is a very good classic mango, supposed to get MBBS but im keeping my tree. Coconut cream lives up to the hype.

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