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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« on: March 09, 2016, 11:06:13 AM »
Quote from: vlan1 on March 09, 2016, 11:03:02 AM
Quote from: Triloba Tracker on March 09, 2016, 10:13:05 AM


yeah I've not heard anyone here mention they're growing it. I'm sure it's decent but in my mind the Petersons are still regarded as primo. (Just basing that on prevailing perception, not personal experience)

PS. KSU is on the cusp of introducing a new variety apparently

Any linked info on this soon to be new KSU variety? or just word of mouth?

http://www.pawpaw.kysu.edu/Fourth%20International%20Pawpaw%20Conference.htm    :D

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Asiminaholics Anonymous
« on: March 09, 2016, 10:13:05 AM »
Quote from: vlan1 on March 08, 2016, 10:37:10 AM
I was looking to add 1-2 Paw Paws to my budding collection of fruit trees and was dead sure on getting Peterson Varieties.  However I keep seeing a "newer" variety listed some places online that was released by KSU called "Atwood".  There doesn't seem to be much out there in terms of reviews and searches on here returned zilch.  Was just wondering if anyone would have some insight on this particular cultivar and would it be worth getting instead of a Peterson tree, or Pairing with a Peterson tree.

I probably ate one 2 years ago at KSU but I don't remember anything about it LOL

yeah I've not heard anyone here mention they're growing it. I'm sure it's decent but in my mind the Petersons are still regarded as primo. (Just basing that on prevailing perception, not personal experience)

PS. KSU is on the cusp of introducing a new variety apparently

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Passionfruit
« on: March 04, 2016, 06:44:46 PM »
Thanks! let me know if you ever get seeds

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Transplanting Melons
« on: March 04, 2016, 11:21:50 AM »
Quote from: nullzero on March 04, 2016, 11:15:33 AM
Squash and Melons tend to get stunted easily in containers, from my experience. But you should be ok with a biodegradable container option.

Ahhh ok, I see what you mean. I am new to veggie growing so have a lot to learn.
What conditions cause stunting - is it just a matter of the seedlings getting rootbound or is it more about inadequate light and nutrition for heavy-feeder plants (clearly some veggies do well indoors e.g. tomatoes)?

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Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Wanted: asimina parviflora seeds/scions
« on: March 04, 2016, 10:51:37 AM »
Quote from: sanitarium on March 03, 2016, 10:34:08 AM
I am looking for few seeds or scions of asimina parviflora, thanks
I see lots of folks have been asking for this and other asimina species on the forum over time.

You might PM Adam at FlyingFoxFruits....sounds like he may have access to wild parviflora: http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=5787.msg77628#msg77628


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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Transplanting Melons
« on: March 04, 2016, 09:08:39 AM »
Everything I've read about growing melons says they should not be started indoors and transplanted because the roots are very sensitive/fragile.

However, wouldn't using a peat or manure-based pot and simply burying the whole pot (as is recommended of course) mitigate this concern and therefore make this a viable option?

Anyone tried this with success? I know Bonny Plants sells melon seedlings at garden centers (in peat pots, of course)......

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Passionfruit
« on: March 03, 2016, 03:30:09 PM »
Quote from: Pancrazio on March 03, 2016, 11:33:02 AM
Never tasted myself but reports from some italian people i know say it's pretty good and the plant is noticeably hardier than edulis purebred. Need to be "wrinkly" as classical edulis for max flavour. Apparently in italy fruits twice/year.
I don't report pics because i don't have permission but here's a link the the original post talking about it:
http://www.fruttama.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=96#p683

Intriguing....is this a well-known hybrid? Any idea what its actual cold tolerance is? Anyone have seeds, etc?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting passion fruit
« on: March 02, 2016, 03:05:07 PM »
Quote from: mangomike on February 25, 2014, 11:08:23 PM
Passiflora incarnata is the hardiest species, to Zone 6. I don't know if it would impart any cold tolerance to other species grafted to it. Perhaps if you wrapped the graft union in bubble wrap or some kind of freeze protection, you could maintain tropical passionfruit in colder climates.

I read somewhere that there is a university project to breed the cold tolerance of P. incarnate into P. edulis.

Unfortunately incarnata dies back completely in its native Zones, so the graft would be lost after one year.

However  - folks have tried breeding edulis into incarnata. In fact I have a post about one such cultivar..

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Mountain sweet watermelon
« on: February 28, 2016, 03:16:59 PM »
Quote from: Bananaizme on February 28, 2016, 02:35:31 PM
    Triloba

 I went ahead and followed your lead and bought a bag of the Mykos Mychorrizae . Put some on the roots of all the tomatoes that I transplanted. All of my Fruit trees are going to get some as I bump them up into larger containers. Watermelons will be getting some too  .

William

Cool - I plan to loosely test the efficacy of the Mykos by only using it on some plants this year. I am tempted to use on all but then I'd have no way to know if it's snake oil or not.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Passion Flower "Iridescence"
« on: February 27, 2016, 08:02:28 PM »
Quote from: googer on February 26, 2016, 04:08:58 PM
I just got ~50 lilikoi seeds in the mail courtesy of barath, which I believe is a cultivar of edulis. Sounds like I've got everything I need to make my own flavor of Iridescence.

For all we know you could be the first to try that specific cross!

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Passion Flower "Iridescence"
« on: February 26, 2016, 12:22:11 PM »
I ended up talking with the breeder directly, who lives about 50 miles from me, coincidentally.

I learned that it does have edulis genes in there somewhere, though he estimates it's about 75% incarnata.

He says it doesn't seem to make its own pollen so it does require insect or hand-pollination from an incarnata.

His mother plant has survived subzero temperatures and returned with considerable vigor. The fruit turns yellow when ripe but may need a longer ripening window than incarnata. 

As I said before, the flavor is purported to be better than incarnata but not as good as edulis.

Can't wait to get this one in the ground!

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Mountain sweet watermelon
« on: February 18, 2016, 06:11:47 PM »
Quote from: Bananaizme on February 18, 2016, 06:06:32 PM
    Thanks triloba
I have not heard of mykos brand. Have you noticed better results with it ?  I found chappys power organics on line. Thinking about trying this . I'd be interested in hearing your experiences with the mychorrizae.

William
Too soon to tell on the mycorrhizae- will know in the summer. Will try to let u know.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Mountain sweet watermelon
« on: February 18, 2016, 05:22:24 PM »
Quote from: Bananaizme on February 18, 2016, 02:20:01 PM
    Rob

 What are your thoughts on using mychorrizae ? Does it live up to all the hype ?

 William

I am trying Mykos brand mycorrhizae this year. I am a melon fanatic and plan to grow sugar baby and orangeglo watermelons, 2 types of honeydews and a cantaloupe (heart of gold I think), all on a trellis.

I got one orangeglo melon last year and it definitely had a unique taste. Looking forward to a better harvest this year.
There have been other threads on watermelons too so you may want to search.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Passion Flower "Iridescence"
« on: February 15, 2016, 09:10:57 AM »
I was doing some web surfing over the weekend and found a nursery selling a passion vine called "Iridescence."

The place is Brushwood Nursery, http://www.gardenvines.com/ in Athens, GA.

"Iridescence" caught my eye because it claimed to be "Tasty-fruited" and it is listed as hardy to zone 7.

I had some communication with the Nursery, and here is additional information they shared:
  • Better tasting fruit than incarnata
  • Being sold for the first time
  • Bred by an individual in Tennessee
  • Exact pedigree is confidential but does include incarnata

I have ordered a vine and will update this thread with my experience over the year.

Anyone else heard of this variety or plan to purchase one?

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Maypop (Passiflora incarnata) Thread
« on: February 13, 2016, 11:11:35 AM »
Thanks for the summary, Googer!
Excellent observations.
I plan to give away a few of my seedlings too. honestly I'm not sure what I'm going to do with all of them. I have a 32-foot "fence" trellis I recently built, using cattle panels and cedar posts. I have 4 maypops planted along this already, and was going to plant a couple\few more there. (Side note - not sure about the spacing. The ones planted now are probably 12 inches apart.)

I may put some in landscaped areas near my house, but i'm a little worried about the vines taking over the place. I wouldn't mind being surrounded by them, but it might not look good in these slightly manicured areas. I have visions of being the "maypop man" with a property overrun with them, since it is the official wildflower of Tennessee after all.

I'm also really interested to see what color the flowers are on these seedlings. I think I mentioned earlier that these are from mature fruit that was set on a white maypop vine I purchased from Logee's. The only other incarnatas around were all wild type. I admit I don't have much understanding of the specifics of plant genetics. (Speaking of which, anyone know of any good primer on the subject?) I would think the chances of these being purely white-flowered are low....?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Red Jaboticaba seedling survived 70 days in the mail
« on: February 11, 2016, 08:53:56 PM »
Gotta love it

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Maypop (Passiflora incarnata) Thread
« on: February 11, 2016, 08:50:40 PM »
Well, all of my seeds have sprouted at this point. There was one seed that I think got planted too deeply and did sprout but I sacrificed it by exhuming it :)
My oldest sprouts now have 2-3 true leaves. I up-potted them on Monday and all had good root systems. I've never up-potted seedlings specifically- I've planted transplants into the ground or pot but never anything this young. I hope I wasn't too tough with them. I did loosen the root mass and tried to kind of undo any circling roots.
I will say they seem to be a tiny bit shocked, as they have seemed to pause in their growth somewhat. The newest leaves that were forming quickly before have not grown much since. However, I do think I see the beginnings of "secondary" leaves - tiny growth on the branches of the first true leaves.

I probably should've repotted sooner as there was son minor root circling. Overall however my expectations have been exceeded.

Seems like all you have to do is stratify these (I did 3+ months in the fridge) and germinate in a warm place (I would say 80-85 Fahrenheit for fast germination). Nothing mysterious or complicated after all.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Another Paw Paw Variety Question
« on: February 11, 2016, 11:31:06 AM »
Rappahannock, Susquehanna, and Shenandoah are all Peterson varieties - considered top-notch. I don't think you can go wrong there.
You can see Neal's notes on each variety on his website.
Sometimes his trees are hard to come by so I would probably jump on one of those soon as you can.

EDIT - Peterson seems to like Susquehanna the best. Huge fruits and lowest seed ratio. not highest yields apparently, though

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Maypop (Passiflora incarnata) Thread
« on: February 01, 2016, 10:32:38 AM »
Googs,

This first batch of yours - were they all subjected to the high heat?

Here are my seedlings that were stratified 3 months+ and then ended up getting "cooked" with soil temps around 90-95 for maybe a day (?)
5 out of 6. The 6th one actually did sprout but it never really emerged. maybe it got too buried, or was just an abortion, not sure.


I have 12 other seeds in another tray that are about a week old, maybe a little more. They are being kept at mid 70's temperature, and so far there is no sign of life at all.
It's hard to be patient but I know sildanani said hers took a month to sprout. I think this is fairly common at these temps. Very interesting to me that the high temps were not lethal to these seeds and instead induced very fast germination.

Based on how my seedlings are doing, so far there seems to be no ill effect to the embryo, etc at those high temps.

I have my seedlings under a Sun Blaze 44 fixture - a 4-foot, 4-bulb (fluorescent T5). Pretty high-powered for seed starting (which is all I use it for). You can get smaller versions of this fixture and also little T5 "strips" that are self-enclosed single bulbs that are just plug-and-go. I started with one of those last year. Sunlight Supply is the maker of those and the Sun Blaze.
I would advise you check the heat output of anything you get before putting plants too close to it. I had always read, like mushroombob said, that fluorescent fixtures can (and should) get really close to plants. But this Sun Blaze 44 puts out a lot of heat. I have it about a foot above my seedlings but due to the light output of these T5 bulbs, it's plenty close.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Egg Cartons and other seed-starter pots
« on: January 29, 2016, 12:09:58 PM »
Thanks for the info!

I came to the same conclusion regarding the egg cartons. They're too shallow.
So I got a tray of little plastic conjoined cells that are probably 3 inches tall and taper slightly toward the bottom. So far so good.

But funny you mention root-pruning, etc. I have just started thinking about getting some Microkote to encourage better root development. But i'm not sure if that's overkill for annual vegetables? Though I do like overkill :)

I've also considered looking for small plastic "SOLO" cups that I can use. I like to be able to move individual plants around since some are at different stages and need to be in different conditions...

I just wish I had a retail outlet nearby that had lots of options for this stuff. Ordering can be really pricey with shipping.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: LIVE FEED: Rare Fruit Tour via Periscope
« on: January 28, 2016, 09:44:28 AM »
Quote from: Vernmented on January 28, 2016, 09:15:25 AM
I believe you need and iphone or an android smartphone. I was just looking up to see if I could get if for my macbook but I didn't find anything. It is extremely popular with up and coming stand up comedians and phone addicted people of marginal intelligence laying in the their bed answering questions. The viewers can insert text while the streamer live streams and sometimes responds to the text. It would be a wonderful tool for the fruit obsessives here on the forum. I think the videos can stay up on your profile for a day or so for people to back and watch "off air."
;D ;D ;D ;D

But yeah this actually sounds like a useful tool....great idea, Adam! Keep blazing them trails....

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vinamit Jakfruit Chips: Taste Test
« on: January 26, 2016, 08:41:22 PM »
Quote from: Future on January 26, 2016, 06:30:02 PM
I had this same brand in LA last summer and they were good.  If only they used a healthier oil than canola....next we will have Durian chips on sale...

I'm with you on the oil. I wish they could make these somehow without it. 
I love this brand of jackfruit chips. I could make myself sick eating them - they're so addictive. Look out for the hard pieces though - you can lose a tooth!

We have durian chips in Nashville at Bangkok Market. I've gotten them a couple of times. Nothing really to write home about. Not that far from an ordinary potato chip, owing to the fact that it's immature, relatively tasteless durian they are frying. This brand is pretty oily too. Fun but only once really.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best time to visit Chinatown?
« on: January 25, 2016, 08:35:58 PM »
For the record:
I have it from the highest durian authority that Jay Fan deals exclusively in frozen durian. Monthong and occasionally Musang King.

I will probably renege on my previous promise and try some if his prices are reasonable, and especially if he has Musang.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fingersop Review (VIDEO)
« on: January 25, 2016, 08:33:34 PM »
Looks like a tiny pawpaw.

Gotta admit I've never heard of a "fingersop."  Binomial?

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Maypop (Passiflora incarnata) Thread
« on: January 24, 2016, 09:28:55 PM »
The coincidence continues! I just checked my first "cooked" batch and they are sprouting right up!

Are your sprouts the ones that only got a few weeks stratification?

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