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I gave up on the search myself. Settling for Malayan dwaft.
Murray of gardenofdelights gets them directly from Chapman field or wherever has then down there.
I haven't bought them for fears of cross pollinations
Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: keraji mandarin
« Last post by Ilya11 on March 18, 2018, 08:33:56 AM »
It is highly probable ;) that ichangquat from Eisenhut is the same that is sold by B.Voss by the name 6-7-2.
Mine 6-7-2 is a huge tree around 6 meters tall, never protected and never had any damage (planted in 2004).
It is flowering in several waves all summer long, fruits are ripening very quickly, in around 3-4 months. The fruit quality is variable, depends on weather and  degree of ripeness. It is best to be picked when easily detached from  the branch. 
A flavor is unique, some melange of pine with feijoa; not unpleasant, with small grapefruit-like bitterness.
Occasionally fruits are rather dry inside, but mostly the juice is present in sufficient quantity.
I like to eat them as such, but they also  can be used for marmalade.

Concerning Keraji, no protection, no damage this winter as well as the last one.
Is that a Duke avocado tree?  It's not only huge but gorgeous.

Great choices.  That's a lot of work regarding winter protection.   Stewart would not need to be protected once it's thick and woody.
Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Shanxi Li vs Li jujube
« Last post by nana7b on March 18, 2018, 08:01:06 AM »
If you like sweet you may want to consider Honey Jar. It is sweet and is juicier than others I grow.
Only negatives to Honey Jar is the fruit size and perhaps the thorns. They are relatively small.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Should I plant these vanilla cuttings yet?
« Last post by FamilyJ on March 18, 2018, 07:42:01 AM »
Just remember 10 ft in order to get flowers, and hand pollinate
Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: keraji mandarin
« Last post by maesy on March 18, 2018, 07:33:08 AM »
My ichangquat is planted out at the good protected south eastern wall of my house. It took similar temperatures as yours moro. It is untouched and looks in perfect condition.
I guess it is not much less hardy as a dunstan citrumelo
Three meters beside and away of the house.

Can anybody say something to the fruit quality of ichangquat?
Mine is from eisenhut, not 6-7-2.

According the keraji, I have one growing well protected growing together with a thomasville citrangequat at the south western wall of my house.

Don't know the answer, but doesn't "extinct" sometimes mean "extinct in the wild"? So if that is correct, then an extinct species could be in private collections.
Following page from USDA seems to give that definition of the word extinct:
from 2015 NAL Glossary (2014)
by United States Department of Agriculture, National Agricultural Library
"extinct species": Those species no longer known to exist after repeated search of the type localities and other known or likely places. Some species may be extinct in the wild but are being preserved by cultivation in gardens or as domesticated animals.
BTW, i think a lot of rare fruit trees are headed in this direction of extinction, but with luck present in some private collections.  Look at this lists i posted of endangered fruit trees (in 2 parts, list was too long to post in only one message):

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Pavlovsky lemon
« Last post by loneroc1 on March 18, 2018, 07:06:50 AM »
Hi again all,

I read through the most recent USDA-APHIS regulations regarding importation of Citrus sp. seed to the US and it looks like it's still allowed from Europe, including the former CCCP countries.  There are a few paperwork and inspection requirements beyond merely dropping the seeds in the mail.

Does anyone know of a reputable source for seed of the Pavlovsky lemon?  I'm happy to pay the costs incurred, of course. I don't have any citrus material to exchange but I live in an extremely cold part of the US and I can offer W.C. and cultivated seed of many northern North American natives.

Thanks,   Steve H      You can email me directly at:   loneroc1 at gmail dot com.
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Papaya question
« Last post by fruitlovers on March 18, 2018, 05:39:11 AM »
I have a Papaya tree growing in Scottsdale,  AZ.  Been in ground 3 years.  At least 15 feet tall.  Constantly with fruit.  Bought it as an unnamed seedling at a garden event.
Problem is, I don't like the taste of the fruit.  Kind of has an unpleasant aftertaste.
Anyone have recommendation for easy to find varieties, that would be on the high end of the flavor profile?
In your climate zone no papaya is going to taste very good in winter or fall. They need warm weather to develop good sweet taste. Good complete fertilizer will also help.
Citrus General Discussion / Re: Cara Cara vs Tarocco ?
« Last post by Ilya11 on March 18, 2018, 04:42:27 AM »
I am far from Sicily, but my Tarocco (TDV variety) has a nice color already in January

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