Author Topic: Revitalizing Cuttings (passiflora)  (Read 3839 times)

Triloba Tracker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1343
  • Psalms 104:14
    • USA, Middle Tennessee, Zone 7a
    • View Profile
Revitalizing Cuttings (passiflora)
« on: November 03, 2015, 11:12:33 AM »
I have a couple of passiflora cuttings that I've been trying to root for a couple of months.

Other cuttings have long since rooted and are doing fine.  These 2 are still alive (green, etc) but they don't seem to be rooting.

I have them in the same setup as others, except the "pots" are smaller so less medium which equals faster drying-out. The medium is Al's Gritty Mix (granite, pine bark, turface).

Is there anything I can do to kickstart these cuttings? I've considered:
1) putting in larger quantity of medium to reduce evaporation rate
2) putting in a smaller-grained medium like fine vermiculite or even sand

Also - if I pluck these out and see there has been no root growth at all, will making a fresh cut help stimulate rooting or should that be avoided?

fyliu

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3216
    • Burbank/Covina, CA 10a
    • View Profile
Re: Revitalizing Cuttings (passiflora)
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2015, 02:48:49 PM »
Did you use rooting hormone? If you did, one possibility is you used too much? If not, maybe it would have helped. I realize I'm taking both sides.

Did you cut at a node? A wound there helps stimulate rooting.

If the cuttings are strong, maybe you can cut it back to a node and apply a little hormone. It could also introduce germs and kill off a weak cutting. It just depends on the condition of the cuttings.

Also, maybe it's better to start off in a sterile medium like perlite or a similar mix. I'm not sure how much microbial life is in gritty mix.
« Last Edit: November 03, 2015, 02:50:39 PM by fyliu »

Triloba Tracker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1343
  • Psalms 104:14
    • USA, Middle Tennessee, Zone 7a
    • View Profile
Re: Revitalizing Cuttings (passiflora)
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2015, 04:00:37 PM »
I soaked in a little DynaGro KLN solution .... possible that it could have been overkill.

I did cut at a node so yeah, I've thought of cutting back to a higher node, but that wouldn't leave much of the cutting remaining.

The Gritty mix had been sitting in pots outdoors for months..so may have some microbial activity. But didn't seem to hurt other cuttings.

Maybe these are just weak....the mother plant I think was not the most vigorous. In fact, I think it's a goner.

What about trying to cut the same node, just making a fresh cut?

Joshua

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 161
    • Australia gold coast Queensland subtropical
    • View Profile
Re: Revitalizing Cuttings (passiflora)
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2015, 05:46:18 PM »
It's natural selection choose the fitest ones and sadly leave the rest

Triloba Tracker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1343
  • Psalms 104:14
    • USA, Middle Tennessee, Zone 7a
    • View Profile
Re: Revitalizing Cuttings (passiflora)
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2015, 05:48:03 PM »
It's natural selection choose the fitest ones and sadly leave the rest

I hear ya...my problem is this is the last genetic material I have for this plant....I really want them to make it! but yeah, sometimes you just strike out.

JFranco

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 172
    • Ericeira, Portugal, Zone 10b.
    • View Profile
    • Passionfruit & Friends
Re: Revitalizing Cuttings (passiflora)
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2015, 05:22:34 AM »
Hi!

What kind of passiflora is it?

Joćo Franco

Triloba Tracker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1343
  • Psalms 104:14
    • USA, Middle Tennessee, Zone 7a
    • View Profile
Re: Revitalizing Cuttings (passiflora)
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2015, 10:36:40 AM »
Incarnata

Galka

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 671
    • USA, FL, OCALA, 9A
    • View Profile
Re: Revitalizing Cuttings (passiflora)
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2015, 01:32:53 PM »
This is how I rooted my passiflora in water.


JFranco

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 172
    • Ericeira, Portugal, Zone 10b.
    • View Profile
    • Passionfruit & Friends
Re: Revitalizing Cuttings (passiflora)
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2015, 02:35:53 PM »
Hi!

Not the best time to root passiflora incarnata now. It is better in Spring, when the plants show new growth. Nonetheless when you try use perlite or coco coir.

Joćo Franco

sapote

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1020
    • USA, CA, Burbank, 10a
    • View Profile
Re: Revitalizing Cuttings (passiflora)
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2015, 08:19:20 PM »
This is how I rooted my passiflora in water.



It's just amazing!!! what nutrients it got from water to grow such big and nice leaves? When I tried to root in water, figs or passiflroa, they all developed those whitish dots as early roots, and if I didn't plant them soon then they ate themselves alive to produce new leaves or fruits, and ended up dead with an hollow body. Tell us the secret of what in the water?

Sapote

Galka

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 671
    • USA, FL, OCALA, 9A
    • View Profile
Re: Revitalizing Cuttings (passiflora)
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2015, 09:03:03 PM »
sapote lol... the secret is city water in a black watering can getting some sun every morning for about an hour on my porch. The cutting was with a growing tip. That's what I can recall.  :D

fyliu

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3216
    • Burbank/Covina, CA 10a
    • View Profile
Re: Revitalizing Cuttings (passiflora)
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2015, 01:33:37 AM »
Shouldn't incarnata come back from the ground next year? Maybe it will runner over a few feet from the last location.

Triloba Tracker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1343
  • Psalms 104:14
    • USA, Middle Tennessee, Zone 7a
    • View Profile
Re: Revitalizing Cuttings (passiflora)
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2015, 08:49:03 AM »
Shouldn't incarnata come back from the ground next year? Maybe it will runner over a few feet from the last location.
Yes definitely. Except the mother plant died like a month ago - way too early to be dormancy.
I am trying to propagate several new clones for plantings in other areas. But now it seems like it will be to replace the original plant! :'(

Still wondering if I can/should make a fresh cut on the same node to stimulate new rooting...

sapote

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1020
    • USA, CA, Burbank, 10a
    • View Profile
Re: Revitalizing Cuttings (passiflora)
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2015, 04:53:50 PM »
How's about root it in warm city water with black container??? Did you see the proved result?

Triloba Tracker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1343
  • Psalms 104:14
    • USA, Middle Tennessee, Zone 7a
    • View Profile
Re: Revitalizing Cuttings (passiflora)
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2015, 05:01:23 PM »
How's about root it in warm city water with black container??? Did you see the proved result?
Hahaha yeah, that looks amazing. If I had more material to experiment with, I might....

I assume that was a cutting from P. edulis or flavicarpa....not sure if it'd work as well with incarnata. I don't recall seeing any references to rooting incarnata in water.

Galka

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 671
    • USA, FL, OCALA, 9A
    • View Profile
Re: Revitalizing Cuttings (passiflora)
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2015, 06:24:25 PM »
 ;D

It's a Maracuja guys.

Triloba Tracker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1343
  • Psalms 104:14
    • USA, Middle Tennessee, Zone 7a
    • View Profile
Re: Revitalizing Cuttings (passiflora)
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2015, 09:33:45 AM »
I finally got around to inspecting my cuttings more closely.
There was no rooting activity whatsoever. The cut ends had yellowed and hardened somewhat.

I made a fresh cut at the next highest node (which was still green but hardened a bit) and repotted.

Not hoping for much with these guys. I think the plant was in decline when I took the cuttings, plus it was later in the season.

We'll see. I may water with a little KLN solution to see if that'll jumpstart them.

 

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk