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Huanangui: The Paradise of the Cherimoya
« on: August 08, 2012, 08:43:57 AM »
Very nice video on the commercial cultivation of the Cherimoya in the "Paradise of the Cherimoya: Huanangui, Peru"

Huanangui: El paraíso de la Chirimoya
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Re: Huanangui: The Paradise of the Cherimoya
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2012, 10:42:30 AM »
Just send my friend in Peru a message, gonna see if I got someone of those seeds  ;D
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Re: Huanangui: The Paradise of the Cherimoya
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2012, 03:11:48 PM »
David, let us know how it goes since Cherimoya is hard to grow here in Florida.
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Re: Huanangui: The Paradise of the Cherimoya
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2012, 03:26:31 PM »
Really Adiel?  I have never had any problems with my trees
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Re: Huanangui: The Paradise of the Cherimoya
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2012, 03:30:03 PM »
Festival de la chirimoya orgánica se realiza el 4 y 5 de agosto en Huanangui
Durante los días 4 y 5 de agosto se llevará a cabo el IV Festival de la chirimoya orgánica en la Comunidad Campesina de Huanangui organizado por la Comunidad Campesina, la asociación de productores de chirimoya PROACHIRKO y la Municipalidad distrital de Leoncio Prado. En el evento se han programado actividades de turismo vivencial, culturales, recreativas, exhibición y venta de productos típicos, gastronomía, degustación de derivados de chirimoyas, concurso de reinas, que garantizan a los visitantes experiencias de revalorización de lo tradicional, contacto con el entorno natural e interés por el medio ambiente.

La calidad y el prestigio de la chirimoya orgánica de Huanangui es reconocida en el medio local y nacional. Los productores de esta zona se hicieron acreedores del Ají de Plata en el evento gastronómico de mayor trascendencia en el Perú, MISTURA. El Festival se inscribe en una estrategia del desarrollo del turismo rural y la diversificación de las actividades económicas del distrito. Como parte de este proceso, INPRODES PERÚ estará colaborando en las actividades de capacitación a productores y comuneros, sobre el turismo rural, agroturismo, y la transformación agroindustrial de la chirimoya.
http://inprodesperu.com/

photos at URL    http://inprodesperu.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/DSC00102.JPG

Huanangui is at 8,000 ft right near equator. Very different from Florida growing condiditions

mod edit: I had to remove the image from being hotlinked.
« Last Edit: August 09, 2012, 11:57:47 PM by murahilin »

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Re: Huanangui: The Paradise of the Cherimoya
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2012, 11:56:23 PM »

Huanangui is at 8,000 ft right near equator. Very different from Florida growing condiditions

Exactly!
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Re: Huanangui: The Paradise of the Cherimoya
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2012, 12:01:45 AM »
How long have you been growing cherimoyas and are they of fruiting age?

Really Adiel?  I have never had any problems with my trees
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Re: Huanangui: The Paradise of the Cherimoya
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2012, 12:09:04 AM »
I don't speak a lick of Spanish so this is all visual to me ;D
Has anyone tried what's shown at 6:09?
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Re: Huanangui: The Paradise of the Cherimoya
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2012, 12:33:01 AM »
I don't speak a lick of Spanish so this is all visual to me ;D
Has anyone tried what's shown at 6:09?

I would like to know what she was doing since I also don't speak spanish. I am on my phone (small screen) and not on my laptop. Hard to see exactly what it was.

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Re: Huanangui: The Paradise of the Cherimoya
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2012, 02:59:15 AM »
I don't speak a lick of Spanish so this is all visual to me ;D
Has anyone tried what's shown at 6:09?

I would like to know what she was doing since I also don't speak spanish. I am on my phone (small screen) and not on my laptop. Hard to see exactly what it was.

She is hand pollinating the flowers with some device that blows the pollen into the flower. A little about this nice video: this is a region that only started to grow cherimoya in 1996. Prior to that it was a very impoverished valley. Now thanks to production of cherimoya their standard of living has gone way up. They produce about 700 tons of cherimoya per year. It is all organically grown. Their biggest problem has been fruit fly. They release sterile males to help control them. They have an annual cherimoya festival where they make lots of products made out of cherimoya. Their most popular is a cherimoya cocktail.
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Re: Huanangui: The Paradise of the Cherimoya
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2012, 11:38:37 PM »
Thanks for the run down Oscar.

They've gone more hi-tech with pollination than what we have huh?

You can probably use one of those infant mucous suction with a coffee straw to get the same job done ;D
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Re: Huanangui: The Paradise of the Cherimoya
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2012, 11:56:48 PM »
Really Adiel?  I have never had any problems with my trees

Are you growing A. reticulata (which Cubans call Chirimoya) or A. cherimola (the fruit this thread is about)?

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Re: Huanangui: The Paradise of the Cherimoya
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2012, 12:00:14 AM »
Thanks for the run down Oscar.

They've gone more hi-tech with pollination than what we have huh?

You can probably use one of those infant mucous suction with a coffee straw to get the same job done ;D

I've heard of pollination guns that are high tech being used in Israel. But don't think what she was using was high tech, just some kind of blower, but hard to tell exactly what from that video.
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Re: Huanangui: The Paradise of the Cherimoya
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2012, 12:20:59 AM »
I meant to joke more hi-tech than our paint brush and plastic container ;D
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Re: Huanangui: The Paradise of the Cherimoya
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2012, 09:05:02 AM »
I grow both and haven't had any problems with either. My Cherimoya hasn't fruit yet, but i has been growing fine for two years now.
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Re: Huanangui: The Paradise of the Cherimoya
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2012, 09:07:32 AM »
Although the seeds were brought from Cuba. Also A. reticulata is called Red Chirimoya by Cubans, A. cherimola is Green Chirimoya
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Re: Huanangui: The Paradise of the Cherimoya
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2012, 02:02:45 PM »
Really Adiel?  I have never had any problems with my trees

David, I know what you mean.  :)  You are referring to the "Caribbean Cherimoya", also know as the "Red Custard Apple" or "Bullock's Heart"(Annona Reticulata).  That red one is usually called "Red Custard Apple" in this forum.  When you see "Cherimoya" in this forum, it refers to the "Annona Cherimola" (It has green skin)

The "Red Custard Apple" grow well here in Florida.  The "Cherimoya" does not do well.  However, a while back I was also interested if anyone had success with the "Cherimoya" in Florida.  It looks like there is a variety called "dream" that might have hope here.  Please take a look at this posting and read Har's (Guanabanus) comments:

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=492
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Re: Huanangui: The Paradise of the Cherimoya
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2012, 02:25:16 PM »
I do have the Cherimoya that is discussed here, it has not flowered yet, but I don't have any problems with it.
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Re: Huanangui: The Paradise of the Cherimoya
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2012, 08:20:56 AM »
There is a region in Bolivia, called Mizque, that is renowned for its cherimoyas.
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Re: Huanangui: The Paradise of the Cherimoya
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2012, 05:02:30 PM »
I grow both and haven't had any problems with either. My Cherimoya hasn't fruit yet, but i has been growing fine for two years now.

The cherimoya trees seem to grow fine here. I have 20 seedlings going right now and cherimoya is often used as a rootstock for other annonas here in FL. It does not fruit well though. It will unlikely that you get many or even any fruit. I have seen a large tree produce a few fruit here in FL before but they are generally unproductive and do not fruit well here.

With that said, you may be lucky and your seedling may be the holy grail of cherimoya trees in FL and be very productive. Keep us updated.

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Re: Huanangui: The Paradise of the Cherimoya
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2012, 05:40:42 PM »
I grow both and haven't had any problems with either. My Cherimoya hasn't fruit yet, but i has been growing fine for two years now.

The cherimoya trees seem to grow fine here. I have 20 seedlings going right now and cherimoya is often used as a rootstock for other annonas here in FL. It does not fruit well though. It will unlikely that you get many or even any fruit. I have seen a large tree produce a few fruit here in FL before but they are generally unproductive and do not fruit well here.

With that said, you may be lucky and your seedling may be the holy grail of cherimoya trees in FL and be very productive. Keep us updated.

How cool would that be! ;D
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Re: Huanangui: The Paradise of the Cherimoya
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2012, 06:39:30 PM »
The seeds I am growing are from a tree that produces in Miami. As far as I know there are a couple trees in the Redland area that are from seeds people have brought back with them from Cuba. I eat at least one locally grown, Green Cherimoya (A. cherimola) every year. But that does make sense because the lesser A. reticulata is much easier to come by.
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Re: Huanangui: The Paradise of the Cherimoya
« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2012, 07:31:36 AM »
Interesting thread.  I too have many a. cherimola seedlings growing here in South Florida.  However, I've never seen a Florida grown fruit, but assume that it could be done.  Its just not very easy to accomplish. David, would love to see pictures of your cherimoya tree.  Would you be kind enough to post some?

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Re: Huanangui: The Paradise of the Cherimoya
« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2012, 08:28:37 AM »
I am away from my farm for the next week, but I will take a picture next time I go.
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Re: Huanangui: The Paradise of the Cherimoya
« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2012, 09:40:33 AM »
The seeds I am growing are from a tree that produces in Miami. As far as I know there are a couple trees in the Redland area that are from seeds people have brought back with them from Cuba. I eat at least one locally grown, Green Cherimoya (A. cherimola) every year. But that does make sense because the lesser A. reticulata is much easier to come by.

It would be very interesting to see a productive cherimoya here in FL. The large one I knew of here that was fruiting only had about 3 fruit on the entire tree and the quality was not good. If you have found one that produces quality fruit, that would be awesome and I am sure many members here would be interested in budwood. I am still skeptical until I see pictures of the fruit and the tree. Can you post some close up pics of the leaves and pics of the fruit including it cut open if possible.