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Re: rarest papaya on earth. palanda papaya
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2017, 11:39:13 AM »
Just a quick update.  3 seedlings are planted outside now.  They seems to be handling temps in the 90s just fine in partial shade.

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« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2017, 01:56:07 PM »
Just a quick update.  It's been several weeks since three seedlings were planted outside in the ground and it's becoming pretty clear that they really do not care for our soil here.  They are becoming yellow and dropping leaves, but the plants outside in containers seem to be managing just fine.  So I guess these are going to be container plants after all.  That's kind of a bummer.

How is everyone else doing with their plants?   

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Re: rarest papaya on earth. palanda papaya
« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2017, 04:22:29 PM »
Still waiting on mine to come up. Planted 7/19. How long did it take for them to come up?
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Re: rarest papaya on earth. palanda papaya
« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2017, 04:23:35 PM »
nothing have come up from mine. It's been over 6 weeks.

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« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2017, 05:42:59 PM »
They have sprouted very sporadically.  Some came up in just a week, but some took a month or more.  In fact, I just had a new seedling appear a few days ago from my initial planting, so don't give up hope.  Hopefully, yours will sprout as well.  I kept the soil extremely wet (they really seem to need a lot of moisture) and 80s-90s temperature. 

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Re: rarest papaya on earth. palanda papaya
« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2017, 03:34:38 AM »
all 5 of mine germinated within 3 weeks, Ive been putting them in dappled sun after 2 P.M., left them out over night and lost 2 to the full sun but 3 are growing good.

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Re: rarest papaya on earth. palanda papaya
« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2017, 10:40:19 AM »
all 5 of mine germinated within 3 weeks, Ive been putting them in dappled sun after 2 P.M., left them out over night and lost 2 to the full sun but 3 are growing good.

Did you get your seeds from Baker Creek? When did you plant them?
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Re: rarest papaya on earth. palanda papaya
« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2017, 04:32:14 PM »
yea from baker creek, planted them first day of june

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Re: rarest papaya on earth. palanda papaya
« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2017, 12:39:02 PM »
Here's the link to the slide presentation, if anyone's interested. 

https://es.slideshare.net/gabbyabad2/caricaceae

Thank you for this. I need to check my seeds to see if they popped up yet. I would love updates if you feel like posting them.

Well, I'm not sure how everyone else is doing with these, but my seedlings are not doing very well.  They have grown, but they are certainly not thriving.  Is anyone else doing well with them?  I'd love to compare notes....

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« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2017, 01:45:59 PM »
I've got about 6 or so potted into 1gallons from a seed starter tray. The ones in a little more shade are doing awesome! Probably nearing 10" plus and developing really nice large leaves. All of them are doing well really and I'd say most are in direct sunlight 80% of the day in fairly high heat conditions (nights at medium 50's, days ranging from 70-100*). I have them potted in ProMix HP with added BioLive, iron sulfate and worm castings. I'll post some pictures later.

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« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2017, 12:13:40 PM »
Thanks for the information :-)  I'm guessing that they don't like the heat here in Miami.  Maybe I'll try putting them outside again over the winter and see how they fare. 

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« Reply #36 on: October 01, 2017, 06:02:11 PM »
Could be, it's definitely pretty mild here. Gonna be rocking these guys in a greenhouse this winter I think.





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Re: rarest papaya on earth. palanda papaya
« Reply #37 on: October 02, 2017, 02:13:24 AM »
Thanks for the information :-)  I'm guessing that they don't like the heat here in Miami.  Maybe I'll try putting them outside again over the winter and see how they fare.
Mine are doing fine and its been very hot and humid and their in dappled sun, I only water them with rainwater so maybe its the water your using.

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« Reply #38 on: October 02, 2017, 02:20:28 AM »
I'm using distilled, but I'll try rainwater and maybe that will do the trick.  Do you have them outdoors or indoors?

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Re: rarest papaya on earth. palanda papaya
« Reply #39 on: October 02, 2017, 02:22:37 AM »
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« Reply #40 on: October 02, 2017, 02:24:04 AM »
Thanks a lot :-)  I'll put them back outside and see what happens.

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« Reply #41 on: October 02, 2017, 09:11:33 PM »
I water with city water but it is magical hetch hetchy water...

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Re: rarest papaya on earth. palanda papaya
« Reply #42 on: October 04, 2017, 07:45:44 AM »
Has anyone tried Mita, Vasconcellea candicans? They have it on http://www.rareseeds.com

This one lives in micro climates in the Andean mountains in Peru. Very hardy and drought resistant.



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« Reply #43 on: October 04, 2017, 10:10:50 AM »
i just went online to baker creek and could not find the papaya seeds, ???? so where/how are you guys finding them??        Patrick

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« Reply #44 on: October 04, 2017, 10:35:34 AM »
Has anyone tried Mita, Vasconcellea candicans? They have it on http://www.rareseeds.com

This one lives in micro climates in the Andean mountains in Peru. Very hardy and drought resistant.



Didn't get germination! It's been months and still no sign.

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Re: rarest papaya on earth. palanda papaya
« Reply #45 on: October 04, 2017, 12:39:29 PM »
i just went online to baker creek and could not find the papaya seeds, ???? so where/how are you guys finding them??        Patrick


here is Mita http://www.rareseeds.com/mita-vasconcellea-candicans/
they don't have V. palandensis anymore, this is so rare only in south Ecuador

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Re: rarest papaya on earth. palanda papaya
« Reply #46 on: October 04, 2017, 12:54:47 PM »
Didn't get germination! It's been months and still no sign.
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I ordered also from rarepalmseeds.com, although they are more expensive, I hope they are fresh..
And also I asked a friend who is hiking in Peru to collect seeds from Mita, fresh ones.
Check few of them they might get rotten.
The thing with Vasconcellea is that you need to remove the sarcotesta, and this is usually not done by the seeds collectors. There are some treatments that are mandatory to undertake them, unless the seeds are not older than a month. Which is hardly the case.

For those lucky who have V. palandensis I hope you will take care of the plants and hopefully make fruits. The seeds are very rare. It's a ´Critically Endangered´ species which grows only in Ecuador, in Zamora-Chinchipe province. The extent of occurrence is only 6 km2. The species is not cultivated. The only known population is threatened by severe deforestation and timber extraction.
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Re: rarest papaya on earth. palanda papaya
« Reply #47 on: October 04, 2017, 03:59:36 PM »
Could be, it's definitely pretty mild here. Gonna be rocking these guys in a greenhouse this winter I think.





Thanks a lot for the pics.  I have been worried by what I considered to be curling at the edges of the leaves, but it looks like that's just the way the leaves develop.  How old are your plants?  Have your found them to be vigorous or somewhat reluctant growers?

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Re: rarest papaya on earth. palanda papaya
« Reply #48 on: October 04, 2017, 07:04:17 PM »
Has anyone tried Mita, Vasconcellea candicans? They have it on http://www.rareseeds.com

This one lives in micro climates in the Andean mountains in Peru. Very hardy and drought resistant.



Didn't get germination! It's been months and still no sign.


Mine didn't come up either and then my trays got messed up so no go for me. :( I was really looking forward to this one. I wonder if Joseph Simcox was the one that got them to Baker Creek.
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« Reply #49 on: October 04, 2017, 07:05:55 PM »
Babaco also has leaves with that similar curl.
Could be, it's definitely pretty mild here. Gonna be rocking these guys in a greenhouse this winter I think.





Thanks a lot for the pics.  I have been worried by what I considered to be curling at the edges of the leaves, but it looks like that's just the way the leaves develop.  How old are your plants?  Have your found them to be vigorous or somewhat reluctant growers?
-Josh

 

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