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Kevin Jones

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Grafted "Black Star" Suriname Cherries - Example Photos
« on: May 10, 2020, 11:45:57 AM »
I'm watching a dozen or so recently grafted "Black Star" Suriname Cherries and I'm pleased to see them pushing out new leaves.
I have been daily checking for sprouts beneath the union and rubbing them out to force growth energy into the grafted scion.
So far so good.
This is only my second possibly successful venture into grafting and I was hoping to get some tips on after care.



Thank you.

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Re: Grafted "Black Star" Suriname Cherries
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2020, 03:15:56 PM »
What kind of graft, and how many days did they take to push?

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Re: Grafted "Black Star" Suriname Cherries
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2020, 03:38:31 PM »
I guess it would be called a cleft graft.
Wrapped the scion in tape... I split the rootstock... and cut the scion into a "V" point... and inserted the scion into the the rootstock.
Then wrapped the whole graft with tape.

It took about 2 -3 week for shoots to start sprouting.
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Re: Grafted "Black Star" Suriname Cherries
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2020, 03:52:01 PM »
I’ve only grafted a few Surinam cherries myself but they all took. I used young rootstocks and they budded vigorously beneath the graft union so I had to constantly monitor that and remove all buds below the Union. When grafting fruit trees, I often cut nearby branches that come oof the same branch that feeds the grafted branch in order to re direct more energy into the new graft.

Good luck!

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Re: Grafted "Black Star" Suriname Cherries
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2020, 12:32:30 PM »
I grafted up a bunch this week, Zill's scions onto random seedlings and onto some more senior plants too. Hoping to see success. I also went with cleft.

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Re: Grafted "Black Star" Suriname Cherries
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2020, 03:12:26 PM »
I did a similar thing with my "Black Star".
So far... I seem to be striking around a 30% success rate.

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Re: Grafted "Black Star" Suriname Cherries
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2020, 03:28:37 PM »
I did a similar thing with my "Black Star".
So far... I seem to be striking around a 30% success rate.

Kevin Jones

Definitely far better than my so far, 0% rate. We'll see about the grafts I tried this year. Many attempts on loquat, white sapote, and now surinams...

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Re: Grafted "Black Star" Suriname Cherries
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2020, 09:16:27 AM »
I used a little trick Adam Shafran mentioned one time.
I planted the seeds from my "Black Star" mother plant... and then grafted fresh "Black Star" scions onto those seedlings.
I guess the idea is that they should have maximum compatibility for grafting.
I'm still creating more duds than takes... but at least some are working out OK.

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Re: Grafted "Black Star" Suriname Cherries
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2020, 03:54:57 PM »
I used a little trick Adam Shafran mentioned one time.
I planted the seeds from my "Black Star" mother plant... and then grafted fresh "Black Star" scions onto those seedlings.
I guess the idea is that they should have maximum compatibility for grafting.
I'm still creating more duds than takes... but at least some are working out OK.

Kevin Jones

At what size are you grafting them? Post a photo of your most recent grafted surinam for the TFF family?

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Re: Grafted "Black Star" Suriname Cherries
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2020, 10:08:37 AM »
Here's a few photos of a typical "Black Star" strike.
This is one of the more vigorous individuals.
I'm using clothes pins over the graft to reinforce the area.
Soft of like clamping a wood glue joint...seems to help.
The Eugenias have really hard wood.
Last year I attempted to graft a large lot of "Black Stars"... zero takes with tape alone. All duds.
Then I attempted to graft Eugenia Calycinas with tape and pins... Success!
This year I attempted the "Black Stars" again... with pins... Success!
I can't prove that the pins help... but they sure don't hurt:







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