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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plant ID
« on: December 24, 2023, 11:14:37 AM »
Maybe miracle fruit.

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Mine are healthy, but they're the non-wavy-leaf ones. It's a bit suspicious tbh, they look like a different species. They look like E. myrcianthes, with more elongated leaves, and more silvery new growth. They had some dieback when young until I put them all in full sun, no issues since. I think they want full sun basically from the time they sprout.

Hi Nate,

You aren’t the only one that said theirs did better under full sun. https://m.facebook.com/search_results/?q=Eugenia+beaurepairiana+Wavy Also in this discussion is the information that there are 2 vars of this species, one with a wavy leaf called rugosa and a regular leaf variety.
Yeah that was me lol. At first it was just a few of them, but the ones I tried to baby by putting in the shade did worse. They really wilt on hot summer days, but no damage.

Idk, I hope mine are the real deal, but they really don't look like the same species as what y'all have been posting. Sorry, not sure how to resize the image:


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Mine are healthy, but they're the non-wavy-leaf ones. It's a bit suspicious tbh, they look like a different species. They look like E. myrcianthes, with more elongated leaves, and more silvery new growth. They had some dieback when young until I put them all in full sun, no issues since. I think they want full sun basically from the time they sprout.

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This one? IIRC there's two named after Rio Parnaiba. I believe the other one has narrow leaves. https://www.bellamytrees.com/seeds/p/eugenia-sp-murta-rio-parnaiba-germinated

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kwai Mai Pink Lychee in canada
« on: December 02, 2023, 12:25:19 AM »
i saw that it can handle -10 temps so i ordered the plant online for $130
Where did you find this information? 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are there dwarf loquats
« on: November 22, 2023, 12:55:53 AM »
Was yours grafted? My grafted ones try to fruit in 1 gallon pots, not even two feet tall.

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Thank you Miguel, the seeds arrived safely, no issues with the USDA Small Lots Permit. Two and a half weeks door to door.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bactris genus cold tolerance
« on: November 21, 2023, 06:41:48 PM »
Anyone growing these palms on the mainland?  Interested in attempting Bactris ferruginea but have no idea if they would withstand our winters.  Not a whole lot of info out there on their ability to take cold, I did find some page saying that will not take even 32F.
I looked into that one a bit too. You probably found the same Palmtalk threads I did. With how passionate palm people are, I think the fact that nobody even in Florida seems to be growing it means it's probably not possible. Plus it's really spiny, and like 40 ft tall. IIRC FFF is growing Bactris setosa though, so that at last must have some cold tolerance.

Some nice pictures: https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/topic/48939-bactris-ferruginea/

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: JoeHewitt!! Show us your place!
« on: November 21, 2023, 06:30:22 PM »
Part 3 is out for all those jabo addicts !!
thanks for sharing these epic videos
what a special place congrats to Joe and his Team makings dreams happen

Link please?  I didn't see it in a search.
Part 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToVJNbJDNS4

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Starting a farm in Southern California
« on: November 21, 2023, 06:28:35 PM »
Why is water such an issue down there? I looked up the city rates, and it's about the same pricing as in the Bay Area.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New USDA Plant Hardiness Zone Update?
« on: November 15, 2023, 12:30:33 PM »
Houston moves to 9b despite two 8b storms
The new maps are average annual lows for 1991-2020. IIRC those storms were more recent.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: For the love of concrete!!
« on: November 09, 2023, 12:03:00 PM »
Please post your results Jeramyl.

It'd be cool to see a greenhouse built around a boulder. Or over a concrete cistern.

Kevin, I don't know how much insulation would do, since the subsurface ground is probably around 65. Especially as you get away from the edges into the center of the greenhouse. If anything, it might hurt once the greenhouse dips below 65. It'd be neat to have metal heat exchanging fins down into the ground below the slab. Maybe geotubes are just better? Or metal geotubes.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: For the love of concrete!!
« on: November 08, 2023, 05:21:02 PM »
Another neat idea is to use phase change materials (pcm’s). Water barrels work like this, if the water were to freeze they release a huge amount of energy (100x what you can get from a concrete floor) they also use special salt solutions and waxes. You can really nerd out on this stuff, but you start to sound kinda weird… and eventually people don’t want to talk to you anymore, so then you just talk to your plants. I’ll shut up now.
Good in theory, but if it's really 100x better, where are the real-world examples? Pneuma has experimental data showing his concrete works much better than I'd have expected, basically not needing a heater. You're saying PCMs could keep his greenhouse above 60 degrees 100x better, so what, for 1/100th the cost? Let's say it's 10 grand of concrete. What can you do with $100 worth of PCMs? Could you even do it for the same cost?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Free Yangmei Giveaway
« on: November 07, 2023, 02:05:56 PM »
It was either 76 or 80. Also he posted in a pervipus discussion a couple weeks ago that he had 75+ varieties. Then during the giveaway he said someone was 1 number away from being correct after i had posted 75 and 81. So close but not close enought :(

"Some of you were" not "one of you was," so there had to be a guess on either side. That left: 6, 13, 16, 68, and 80.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Free Yangmei Giveaway
« on: November 06, 2023, 11:26:36 PM »
68 or 80

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tips for finding a "Greenhouse sitter"????
« on: November 01, 2023, 02:07:41 AM »
It sounds like you already have an awesome helper, but your system might be more complicated than it needs to be. Why can't you put the drip on a timer, with the water turned on by solenoid valve? And maybe you could add some sprayers on a valve to overhead water the potted plants, that you'd only turn on when you're going to be away. Not as good as hand watering, but I bet you could make it work. The heat, could you not put it on some sort of smart controller that you can monitor on your phone? Or a smart thermometer to alert you when there's an issue? Regarding your sister not recognizing if there's an issue, other than underwatering, what issue could she need to recognize if we're talking about a few weeks? As long as my plants are getting watered, there's not too much that could happen in a few weeks of me being gone. You could even put cameras in, so you could check remotely for issues.

The way you describe it, like a toddler, needing constant supervision, it sounds like you may be in an abusive relationship with your plants. Somewhat joking, but somewhat serious. And if you are injured and off your feet for weeks or months, how much time each day will it take your family to take care of things, and will you be jeopardizing your recovery trying to move around in there doing things yourself when you should be in bed? I'm sorry to get so serious, but I think anything you can do now to make it more on autopilot is worth doing.

Personally, I just don't leave for more than a few days in the summer, or a week in the winter. I know it's a labor of love for me, but I can't expect other people to care. Last couple trips I went on I came back to plants looking like they would've died if I'd been a few hours longer. But once I get a permanent place, I hope to get things automated like I preach.

$50 doesn't sound bad, for two 30 minute visits. If it takes 15 minutes to get there, that's two hours total. And that gas costs money, etc.

And Ryan, I love that your friend is named Oatmeal. It'd be awesome if he found a girl named Raisin.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: JoeHewitt!! Show us your place!
« on: October 30, 2023, 06:28:08 PM »
Bittersweet to see this was the final part. Interesting to see that each place has its problems. Those rose beetles in particular.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: small lot seeds- max 50 seeds
« on: October 29, 2023, 05:32:14 PM »
Per packet maximum of 10 grams OR 50 seeds per packet (whichever is more). So for small seeds it can be well over 50 seeds. 50 packets per package.


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How much better are they than the old ones? Do the plants look the same?

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Mine keeps putting out flowers like your number 1. I'm debating chopping it down. Are both those flowers on the same plant? It doesn't seem to me like the incomplete flowers are male, just missing the sexual parts. I read tomatoes can do that under the wrong conditions... idk. It might be a good rootstock for tomatoes.

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Thanks for reporting. I hope these obscure imports from the past few years start getting into domestic circulation, and the results shared like this.

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Make sure they're hot and humid.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: October 17, 2023, 11:26:42 AM »
Well, I am really in the middle of Atlantic... in an island. More closer to Europe than US.

Can you (or anyone here) recomment a jaboticaba vendor operating in Europe ?
https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=48637.msg504728#msg504728

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Guaporetí (Plinia rivularis)!
« on: October 12, 2023, 10:33:10 PM »
Do you know how big these generally need to be to fruit? Mine is almost 4 years old:



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