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Fruit Monster

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Does Canistel grow true to type from seed?
« on: June 18, 2018, 10:28:17 PM »
Hello Fruiters

It seems there are lots of named varieties of Canistel floating around and that grafting is a common practice.

I recently ate some high quality fruits from a named cultivar. What do you think the odds are of the seeds growing true to type from seed?

I'm pondering whether to grow them or buy a grafted tree.


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Re: Does Canistel grow true to type from seed?
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2018, 07:09:01 PM »
Seed sexually produced, so not true to parent.

Long juvenility, often in excess of 15 years.
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Re: Does Canistel grow true to type from seed?
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2018, 07:26:04 PM »
Thanks Han.
Does anyone have any further feedback? Results they got from growing Canistel by seed?

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Re: Does Canistel grow true to type from seed?
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2018, 07:48:43 PM »
We plant both grafted and seeds.  The earlier reply makes it sound like it’s not worth it to plant seeds.  Trees grown from superior quality material should produce good quality fruit in canistel.  There’s a chance of getting something even better, the only way to improve quality and get more good selections.
Depending on conditions canistel can fruit from seed in five years.
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Re: Does Canistel grow true to type from seed?
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2018, 08:28:30 PM »
I have seedlings that fruited in 3 years and another going on 6 years with no fruits.  Planted within 15' of each other.  The one that produced in 3 years was not attacked by the japanese rose beetle. I feel as though the beetle sets it back tremendously. I would suspect there is something in the leaves that either makes the tree attractive or not attractive. If breeding, success would be increased by finding a type the beetle doesn't care for.  If you find your tree continuously getting attacked by beetles, start over, as it may be faster.

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Re: Does Canistel grow true to type from seed?
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2018, 08:32:08 PM »
I have a 2 year old seedling that flower this year I expect fruit next

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Re: Does Canistel grow true to type from seed?
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2018, 07:35:20 AM »
I have a "Fairchild #2" that I can find no graft marks on it, which went in ground in 2011 and "most" of the fruit have always been very small and inferior to date. Some (VERY few) were delicious but the vast majority were not.
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Re: Does Canistel grow true to type from seed?
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2018, 09:31:28 AM »
Thanks for all the responses guys.
I 'll do what Peter does and plant a few seedlings and buy one or two grafted trees.