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I need two more fruit trees to complete my food forest!
« on: October 15, 2018, 04:27:35 PM »
I have avocados, guava, dragonfruit, cherimoya, mango, longan, white, yellow, and mamey sapote, citrus, figs, persimmon, jaboticabas, surinam cherry, cherry of rio grande, grumichama, pomegranate, and peach.

I have two old trees that are declining and need to be replaced. These trees are located next to eachother. They get partially shaded during winter months by nearby trees, but get more sun during the summer months when the sun shifts directly overhead.

I was thinking of a jujube tree, but I dont know if I have enough sunlight for it. I was also considering carambola but I'm not super wowed by the fruit.

What are some other good options?

Thank you all!

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Re: I need two more fruit trees to complete my food forest!
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2018, 05:23:43 PM »
You have a great selection going but I don't see sapodilla?
I also really like atemoya and I believe you have better selections out there
with JF then we do in Florida. I liked my Lisa atemoya this year better then
anything else I produced.
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Re: I need two more fruit trees to complete my food forest!
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2018, 05:50:40 PM »
You have a great selection going but I don't see sapodilla?
I also really like atemoya and I believe you have better selections out there
with JF then we do in Florida. I liked my Lisa atemoya this year better then
anything else I produced.

I didn't have a spot for it, but it was really close to making the list. The problem now is the spot I have available probably doesnt give enough sun for something like sapodilla.

Does Atemoya do ok with some shade during winter?

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Re: I need two more fruit trees to complete my food forest!
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2018, 07:08:23 PM »
I have a jujube (Indian or Thai) growing underneath a large bushy pongan tree. Gets lots of shade. Fruits pretty well, covered in flowers again. Another one, which is covered thickly by passion vines weighing it over, is covered in flowers. Seem to do well with a bit of shade.

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Re: I need two more fruit trees to complete my food forest!
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2018, 10:45:33 PM »
I just moved a sapodilla that was on the edge of a big oak. I don't know if
the partial shade was affecting it or the oak was stealing the water? In Florida the
atemoyas go dormant when the daylight gets short and winter shade shouldn't be
a factor but mine are in full sun so I am not sure.

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Re: I need two more fruit trees to complete my food forest!
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2018, 12:57:49 PM »
I've grown them in partial shade.  Still drifted, but not heavily.  They are now grown with LED lights to promote flowers commercially, so lots of light stuff to play with.

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Re: I need two more fruit trees to complete my food forest!
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2018, 04:18:28 PM »
I have two abiu trees that fruit very well with only four or five hours of sun for about eight months out of the year....less sun the rest of the year. My neighbor's abiu fruits with about the same amount of sun. Abiu grows really fast and fruits in about three years.

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Re: I need two more fruit trees to complete my food forest!
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2018, 05:13:27 PM »
Luc's Garcinia and loquat, spring supply.

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Re: I need two more fruit trees to complete my food forest!
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2018, 07:36:51 PM »
Luc's Garcinia and loquat, spring supply.

I have a loquat.

What does Luc's Garcinia taste like?

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Re: I need two more fruit trees to complete my food forest!
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2018, 11:15:56 AM »

roblack
when does your Indian Juju fruit mature ?
i have flowers on mine now, but winter is coming.
i am in zone 9b so, i dont know if the fruit will hold and/or ripen.

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Re: I need two more fruit trees to complete my food forest!
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2018, 02:13:22 PM »
Fruit on my trees are usually maturing around the end of the year/new year, and into January and beyond, if memory serves me correctly. Your flowers should be fine, keep us posted.

The fruit don't all ripen at once, which is great. I dehydrate a lot of them when overwhelmed.

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Re: I need two more fruit trees to complete my food forest!
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2018, 04:38:55 PM »
Indian jujube grafted variety of Thai apple aka Taiwan apple will start fruiting from the 2nd year. It should be okay in your zone 10 b where winter temperature is averaging between 35-40 degrees F. (from personal information of growing this by some persons in southern Florida.)
Since citrus grows well in your area a grafted 'tree tomato' / S. betaceum sounds ideal for your location as explained by you regarding the seasonal sunlight factor. Please note that there are 2 cultivars. This is from my studies 2 decades ago for deciding what NOT to plant, rare fruit trees in zone 13!
There is not much difference between a zoo and set of trees grown in an out of it's zonal environment!
Good luck. Triphal