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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: annona ID and cherimoya fruiting question
« on: November 27, 2015, 09:25:44 AM »
ah ha! so it is indeed a true cherimoya. I'd seen threads here where there was much debate about whether a fruit was cherimoya, or atemoya or some other hybrid, and since here people are pretty loose with the names of things I wasn't sure. Good to know - thanks! Now the question is can I fruit one where I am - how much chill does it really need?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: annona ID and cherimoya fruiting question
« on: November 25, 2015, 01:52:22 PM »
Sorry I didn't mean to ask if this is a named variety of cherimoya, but rather if it is actually a cherimoya, or some other annona. Or maybe I should ask if you can clarify it's latin name - Annona sp?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / annona ID and cherimoya fruiting question
« on: November 25, 2015, 10:25:56 AM »
Hi all. A friend who lives on the other side of the mountain range and at a higher altitude brought us this (and one other, now eaten) annona fruit, calling it a chirimoya, (though as has been mentioned I get the impression that in Spanish speaking countries more than one fruit can carry that name), from a seedling tree he has. His tree is loaded with fruit, no hand pollination or special treatment whatsoever. It was the first of these fruits I and my husband had tried and it was DIVINE. We ate it with a spoon - smooth, creamy, fiberless flesh, super sweet and with like 7 different flavors going on - amazing. We can't wait for this next one to soften up.
One, can you tell from the pictures what this is? Also, I have a couple of El Bumpo cherimoya seedlings (seeds from Trade Winds) that could be fruiting age in a year, but I'm wondering if it's cool enough where we are. We're at just short of 1000m. Cool nights, even chilly in Dec-Jan. But if guanabana can fruit there does that mean that cherimoya can't?











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Citrus General Discussion / Re: rooted Meyer lemon cuttings - now what?
« on: November 18, 2015, 10:18:02 AM »
Yes limón here is lime, the word lima (Spanish for lime in countries like Mexico where lemons also exist and are called limón) doesn't mean anything and that's all there is to it. When I told my husband about lemon he insisted I was talking about an over or under (he didn't know which) ripe lime. I had to show him evidence that it's another species of citrus altogether, with a different flavor profile. I think he's still skeptical  ;D But we have a seedling lemon tree and these rooted Meyers so someday he will be able to taste for himself.
What puzzles me is why there's no lemon here? There's lemon in Central America down to...I don't know where but at some point it stops. No climate reason for it as far as I know - lemon should grow just fine. So what gives?

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Oh now I'm excited! I have several Lolita seedlings and I'm thrilled to hear they're delicious and come true! How long do I have to wait from seed to taste for myself?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: rooted Meyer lemon cuttings - now what?
« on: November 17, 2015, 01:45:13 PM »
I think one of my biggest detractors was probably that I only try to root one cutting at a time, but that's partially because I'm afraid if I try like 10 they may all root and then I'll end up overwhelmed with more than I need lol.
I'm sure if you get multiple takes someone will be happy to take a few off your hands! :D Are there lemons where you are? Here in Venezuela the lemon is pretty much unknown and the Meyer even more so...less so? I'm thinking when I have some Meyer lemon production it will be quite a hit as a novelty if nothing else!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: E. patrisii - what's the scoop?
« on: November 16, 2015, 09:11:08 AM »
Sorry I was away from my computer yesterday. Yes my plants are from a seller here in Venezuela - probably the same person who sold you the seeds! :) I'll check out the plants today to see if there's any new growth forming and what color it is, but I don't think it will be dark red as the younger leaves don't show any noticeable reddish tint that would imply they were recently dark red...

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: rooted Meyer lemon cuttings - now what?
« on: November 13, 2015, 05:33:02 PM »
Glad to contribute a little since I come around for help all the time! But I'm still interested to know how long cuttings usually take to fruit - anyone know? I need a realistic range so I can force myself to stop looking for recipes as though I'm going to have a glut of lemons next month hahahahaha! :)

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: rooted Meyer lemon cuttings - now what?
« on: November 13, 2015, 04:10:39 PM »
Hi! I'm pretty excited about the success - out of 20+ cuttings so far I've got 7 good takes and quite a few more that are still alive and healthy which could eventually take, although frankly I'm fine with 7! They came to me wrapped in buddy tape so I unwrapped only a section near the base, cut them near a node, dipped them in DipNGrow (I don't use chemicals in any other aspect of gardening but I can't get cuttings easily or cheaply so I really wanted to improve my chances) and put them in clear plastic cups with damp expanded clay pellets mixed with a little sphagnum moss. (I admit most of the cups also have some soil mixed in with the pellets, but apparently not enough to disrupt air circulation or cause rotting.) One thing I really recommend is to only water from underneath, and only occasionally. If you water from above the cutting above the rooting area can rot even when there's already root formation - I did that once before and sorely regretted it! Anyway, since each cutting was wrapped I didn't do any baggie tenting or anything like that. I've heard (and in my limited experience) Meyers are WAY easier to root than pretty much anything else in the universe, so I wish you luck with the other citrus you've got there. But the Meyer should be smooth-sailing.

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Citrus General Discussion / rooted Meyer lemon cuttings - now what?
« on: November 13, 2015, 10:16:31 AM »
Hi! I've got some lovely Meyer lemon cuttings with nice strong roots forming. Huzzah! How do I know when it's time to pot them in real potting soil? And how long does it generally take a rooted Meyer to start fruiting? Thank you in advance!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: E. patrisii - what's the scoop?
« on: November 12, 2015, 04:55:52 PM »
Neither of my specimens have any brand new leaves at the moment. If they are dark red that means yes E. patrisii, or no?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: red jabo leaf discoloration
« on: November 12, 2015, 04:51:22 PM »
Yeah sort of looks like sunburn right? It's been well watered with rain water, but in full sun when it's not rainy. I'll move them to a more sheltered place. Does red jabo prefer shade as a rule?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / red jabo leaf discoloration
« on: November 12, 2015, 04:19:17 PM »
Hi all. Just got a couple of red jabos and they're both showing the leaf discoloration you see in the pics (sorry the second one is blurry). Any idea what it could be and what I might do about it, if anything? Thanks!





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: E. patrisii - what's the scoop?
« on: November 12, 2015, 04:14:58 PM »
What do you think?





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: E. patrisii - what's the scoop?
« on: November 12, 2015, 11:37:30 AM »
Thank you! So it sounds like they prefer some shade to full sun, and rich soil. That's good to know. You say the fruit is crisp and interesting - is that a positive review? Do you like the fruit? (My grandparents used to describe things they didn't like as "interesting" to be tactful  ;))
Do you know how big the trees get eventually? They sound like they want to be understory...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: E. patrisii - what's the scoop?
« on: November 12, 2015, 11:00:47 AM »
I want to know everything I can about it - definitely how to cultivate (esp sun/shade, temp, soil, irrigation etc), what's the fruit like, how long to fruit from seed, how big does the tree get, and anything else people think is worth saying about this species. Thank you! :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / E. patrisii - what's the scoop?
« on: November 12, 2015, 10:49:53 AM »
Who can give me the dirt on E. patrisii? I've searched here and abroad to no avail. I have two 2 year old seedling trees - how's their care and feeding? Anyone?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia candolleana
« on: November 06, 2015, 02:57:57 PM »
Hey Adam (and everyone) - is there a link with detailed info about the care and feeding of the various Eugenias? I have a few species and I'd love to know which need more or less water, sun/shade preferences, eventual size, how long they take to fruit from seed, all that good stuff. It's pretty hard to find that kind of information for any of them beyond uniflora. I can piece together some of it by spending hours using the search function here, but is there anything more comprehensive/convenient that anyone knows of? (also red jabo, though that's off topic for this thread) - Thanks!

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I had an in ground tamarindo in Orlando, Fl 9b. The seeds were from a tree in Big Pine Key. It flowered its third year in ground and took the cold like a champ. Thankfully, I was ignorant enough to try it.
Are you saying a seedling tree flowered after 3 years in the ground? I always thought tamarind took a decade to flower - how old was your tree including before it was planted out? I'm asking because I have 3 seedling trees and I'd love to see a flower on one of them before 10 years from now! :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: several pineapple questions
« on: October 11, 2015, 09:56:20 PM »
I'm becoming convinced that the condition of the propagule is more important than the method.



Here's that main crown, one week old. I harvested the fruit, trimmed the crown, and put it in water on the same day:



I had a similar experience with the last pineapple I harvested. Fresher crowns seem to root faster.

Wow one week! I've got all the tops and baby tops in water now - fingers crossed for results as good as yours. Thanks everyone!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: several pineapple questions
« on: October 06, 2015, 01:26:52 PM »

Pineapple Culture In Florida - 1921

excellent pdf with a lot of info i was missing - thank you!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: several pineapple questions
« on: October 06, 2015, 07:45:53 AM »
Great so far so good - looks like you can try to plant all those baby tops so I'll give it a go. Now Waterbug, can you tell me what is the "ratoon sucker" that you left in the ground? I assume it's attached to the mother plant, so are you just leaving the mother plant in the ground and part of it will live, or how does that work? I'm trying to envision getting some decent production going in the future and what that looks like...
Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / several pineapple questions
« on: October 05, 2015, 11:01:03 PM »
Hi all. I've never grown pineapple before and I want to get started with some tops from pineapples we're eating. I'd appreciate any advice about rooting the tops, first of all, because I've had a couple of failures. But also, one fruit we have has the regular top on it, but then in a ring around the top are what appears to be a whole bunch of tiny tops - very cute. Can I try to root those as separate plants? I can find no mention of these tiny tops anywhere online. Thanks in advance!

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: total citrus newbie needs advice
« on: September 15, 2015, 03:36:36 PM »
GOT IT! I'll just leave one then. Thanks again!

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: total citrus newbie needs advice
« on: September 15, 2015, 12:28:03 PM »
Great info. I think I'll watch it as it drops its fruit on its own, then play it by ear. But good to know that it probably doesn't have much effect on eventual growth one way or the other.  Thanks guys!

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