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Title: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on March 23, 2013, 05:15:20 PM
a few days ago I tasted a hybrid dovyalis, with no seeds or thorns...the fruit is nice, and reminiscent of a small peach...somewhat tart,  but they get sweet if they're really ripe.

is anyone growing this one? or does anyone have comments about this tree?
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: Felipe on March 23, 2013, 07:22:02 PM
I've heard that there are some sweet and good tasting hybrids out there, I think developed/selected in Israel (?). So far I've only tasted D. caffra and D. hebecarpa: Not really worth growing. In fact I think I will cut down both caffras I'm growing.
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on March 23, 2013, 08:22:54 PM
I've heard that there are some sweet and good tasting hybrids out there, I think developed/selected in Israel (?). So far I've only tasted D. caffra and D. hebecarpa: Not really worth growing. In fact I think I will cut down both caffras I'm growing.

did your hybrid have thorns?
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: Recher on March 23, 2013, 08:30:13 PM
I thought it came out of USDA Miami... just back from google and here it is

A hybrid Dovyalis, resulting from open pollination between two plants growing on the Station, Dovyalis abyssinica (A. Rich.) Warb., and Dovyalis hebecarpa (Gardn) Warb., has been widely distributed because of fruit quality and productivity

http://www.ars.usda.gov/Research/docs.htm?docid=13850 (http://www.ars.usda.gov/Research/docs.htm?docid=13850)
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: Recher on March 23, 2013, 08:35:23 PM
Hmmm... maybe you didn't eat a decent caffra? I think the literature grossly under rates it and that it is almost a first classfruit. Hebecarpa is noticeably more sour.
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on March 23, 2013, 08:42:35 PM
thanks for the link Recher ... that must be the one I have.

I agree...its a great fruit, and no pests seem to bother it.  I think the season is much longer than any true apricot, or comparable prunus sp.

I thought it came out of USDA Miami... just back from google and here it is

A hybrid Dovyalis, resulting from open pollination between two plants growing on the Station, Dovyalis abyssinica (A. Rich.) Warb., and Dovyalis hebecarpa (Gardn) Warb., has been widely distributed because of fruit quality and productivity

[url]http://www.ars.usda.gov/Research/docs.htm?docid=13850[/url] ([url]http://www.ars.usda.gov/Research/docs.htm?docid=13850[/url])
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: fruitlovers on March 23, 2013, 09:59:08 PM
a few days ago I tasted a hybrid dovyalis, with no seeds or thorns...the fruit is nice, and reminiscent of a small peach...somewhat tart,  but they get sweet if they're really ripe.

is anyone growing this one? or does anyone have comments about this tree?

Sounds to me Adam like what you are describing is a cultivar called Prodigal. I got it from the now infamous Murray many years ago. Like you said, it is seedless, and almost totally thornless. In mature trees if you look carefully you can find a very few big thorns on the trunk. Yes Recher is right, these were developed in Florida, not Israel. I like the Prodigal fruit very much. It's not the sweetest of the tropical apricots, i've tasted some sweeter seedling here, but i like that it's seedless and thornless. Great fruit for juicing. If you mix it with any sweet fruit it turns out great and gives the juice a very tropical taste. Also this tree is extremely productive.
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: nullzero on March 23, 2013, 11:05:07 PM
Sounds like a great fruit(seedless to!), would love to try it and possibly plant it out.
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: fruitlovers on March 23, 2013, 11:12:03 PM
Sounds like a great fruit(seedless to!), would love to try it and possibly plant it out.

It's a great fruit! Especially for those of us who don't mind a bit of tart. BTW, very easy to start from cuttings, grows very fast, fruits very fast, produces tons of fruit. I think this fruit has a LOT of commercial potential in fruit juice making industry. We just need to claim high levels of anti oxidants or aprhodisiac qualities and watch the sales take off.  ;)
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on March 23, 2013, 11:14:15 PM
Sounds like a great fruit(seedless to!), would love to try it and possibly plant it out.

its super easy to grow, not terribly sensitive to cold.  Just remind me to get cuttings for u.


hahaha

Oscar...that's the spirit...I agree!
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: Ethan on March 24, 2013, 01:06:27 AM
I started a plant from cuttings over a year ago, it is finally starting to put out some good growth.  Hopefully it'll be worth the wait.
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: nullzero on March 24, 2013, 01:11:37 AM
Sounds like a great fruit(seedless to!), would love to try it and possibly plant it out.

its super easy to grow, not terribly sensitive to cold.  Just remind me to get cuttings for u.


hahaha

Oscar...that's the spirit...I agree!

Thanks will talk to you soon.
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: Mike T on March 24, 2013, 06:10:50 AM
Dovyalis hybrid aka Florida Apricot is supposed to be better than its parents and you can google much info about it.The thorns are supposed to reduce with age.I have some small ones growing and I am optimistic about how they will turn out.
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: davidgarcia899 on March 24, 2013, 06:43:03 AM
Hey Adam, I'd like a cutting too if possible
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: FlyingFoxFruits on March 24, 2013, 10:29:16 PM
ok!

I will root a cutting or send u some cuttings ASAP.

i need to take pics of the fruits.
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: shaneatwell on February 27, 2015, 11:33:26 PM
Any updates?

Saw a ceylon gooseberry at Exotica today and my research led me here.
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: Das Bhut on February 28, 2015, 05:28:43 AM
There's a tropical apricot  tree at Broward Colelge and while it tastes good, it doesn't have much flesh.
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: nickytwo on March 01, 2015, 06:03:01 AM

(http://s17.postimg.cc/j76j2ahi3/DSC_0336.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/j76j2ahi3/)
Caffra and good tasting
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: stuartdaly88 on March 01, 2015, 08:25:52 AM

([url]http://s17.postimg.cc/j76j2ahi3/DSC_0336.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://postimg.cc/image/j76j2ahi3/[/url])
Caffra and good tasting

Do you know if caffra normally developd thorns while in seedling phase or only later?
I keep waiting for thorns to develop and mine are many months old with many leaves and branches?

Abit of topic but have you ever come across wild apricot? Ancylobotrys capensis it's closely related to Landolphias and I believe it's native to your neck of the woods?
http://www.plantzafrica.com/plantab/ancylobcap.htm (http://www.plantzafrica.com/plantab/ancylobcap.htm)

I would kill to get my hands on some seeds!
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: nickytwo on March 01, 2015, 09:12:39 AM
Can get trees will find out about seeds
waitng for courier to reply want to send you jackfruit trees
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: stuartdaly88 on March 01, 2015, 09:59:45 AM
Can get trees will find out about seeds
waitng for courier to reply want to send you jackfruit trees
Trees are even better!!
:D
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: murraystevena2 on March 05, 2015, 04:07:37 PM
This was one of the first rare fruits I got back in 2004 when I started collecting. Fruit of tropical apricot are nice but can be too sour if not just ripe. I have lots of relatives of it now too and can't wait until the ketembella starts to produce. I'm growing kei apple from 5 sources and hope to see differences between them once they are all producing. I'm also growing lovi and governors plum now. I'm got to try the sweet lovi here and still think tropical apricot and a good kei are still the top of the bunch in my book. I was in Tanzania last summer and tried the Sabia species there. I too would really like to find Ancylobotrys capensis, those fruits look so beautiful.
(http://s24.postimg.cc/bh0zes141/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/bh0zes141/)

(http://s24.postimg.cc/jl93jinj5/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/jl93jinj5/)

(http://s24.postimg.cc/mmvafqba9/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/mmvafqba9/)
(http://s29.postimg.cc/jhnllc2wj/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/jhnllc2wj/)
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: Bob407 on March 05, 2015, 05:34:56 PM
I have tasted some off the tropical apricots. However I don't know which was which. The flavor of the ones that have had a slight fuzz on the skin ranged from totally bland to very bad. The ones I tasted that had skin that was smooth with tiny specks was very delicious. A good balance of tart and sweet. The smooth skinned type had thorns on the plant and the seeds I planted from it started producing in two years.
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: KarenRei on January 13, 2018, 02:34:31 PM
My understanding is that dovyalis are generally dioecious - does the same apply to the hybrid?
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: Vernmented on January 13, 2018, 07:11:23 PM
My understanding is that dovyalis are generally dioecious - does the same apply to the hybrid?

Self fertile.
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: pineislander on January 13, 2018, 07:49:37 PM
This looks right, good views & discussion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYHE08d_vbE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYHE08d_vbE)
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: KarenRei on January 13, 2018, 07:52:41 PM
My understanding is that dovyalis are generally dioecious - does the same apply to the hybrid?

Self fertile.

Awesome, thanks  :)  And thanks for the vid, pineislander  :)
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: Recher on June 05, 2018, 11:48:58 PM
Seems to require strong sun to produce fruit. I was getting heaps then once shaded stopped fruiting for 20+ years. Recently took out canopy over them and 'instantly' back into fruit
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: stuartdaly88 on June 07, 2018, 04:13:29 PM
So many Dovyalis species! I'm only growing the indigenous ones since that's what I can get but can't wait to try them! Mine have not flowered yet but hopefully not too long :) I have:

Dovyalis caffra
Dovyalis zeyheri
Dovyalis longispina
Dovyalis rhamnoides

Wonder if any of them can cross pollinate?
Title: Re: Dovyalis hybrid (tropical apricot)
Post by: stuartdaly88 on June 07, 2018, 04:30:29 PM

([url]http://s17.postimg.cc/j76j2ahi3/DSC_0336.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://postimg.cc/image/j76j2ahi3/[/url])
Caffra and good tasting

Do you know if caffra normally developd thorns while in seedling phase or only later?
I keep waiting for thorns to develop and mine are many months old with many leaves and branches?

Abit of topic but have you ever come across wild apricot? Ancylobotrys capensis it's closely related to Landolphias and I believe it's native to your neck of the woods?
[url]http://www.plantzafrica.com/plantab/ancylobcap.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.plantzafrica.com/plantab/ancylobcap.htm[/url])

I would kill to get my hands on some seeds!


Update on this, my plants are full of hectic thorns now!
These thorns are really big and these would make a good security hedge!

(https://s33.postimg.cc/kgk4tlz6z/IMG_20180607_222517_1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/kgk4tlz6z/)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/5xczs6ycb/IMG_20180607_222534.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5xczs6ycb/)

(https://s33.postimg.cc/h8fnh12rv/IMG_20180607_222559.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/h8fnh12rv/)