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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: Gone tropo on October 18, 2020, 09:24:08 PM
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So I read these forums and read various other "reviews" etc on the tastes of various more "exotic" fruits. I have come to the conclusion that i cannot trust for a second other peoples endoresment of various fruits. Luckily I have for the most part being trying fruits before planting trees. I live in a tropical area where all the exotic fruits can be found at local farmers markets so im not relying on fruit being shipped from overseas etc which could influence things. Here is a few that i have tried that lots rave about but i thought were mostly terrible.
Black sapote
yellow sapote (cantisel)
Soursop
bulls heart
Jabotica (these were better than the above)
Probably a few i have missed as well. i think the real test is what do my kids like as they have no bias and they all screw there nose up at the above. Give them a red papya, lychee or rambutan and its a different story.
I grew up eating the more common tropical fruits, papaya, lychees, rambutan etc and nothing i have tried yet on my journey into exotic fruits could even be mentioned in the same sentence as a lychee or rambutan. Are most "exotic" fruits overrated or is it just me and my familys taste buds??
Can someone reccomend exotic fruit that will match a lychee and rambutan? I broke my own rule with pulasan and mangosteen having trees without trying the fruits based on the near 100% endoresment these 2 seem to get.
thoughts?
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If you don't like soursop, that puts the bar pretty high in my book. You probably wouldn't like sapodilla either.
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This will be a long list and I have found many that have not lived up to expectations and descriptions. However I will say the ones on your list are probably not the best examples. Black sapotes are not like chocolate and are mild but ok if you have better varieties but sure no taste sensation. Canistels are alright if you like sweet potato, egg yolk and condensed milk. Milder fruits and those not super sweet like avocado take time and you grow into them.
Soursops can be alright but Cuban fibreless is too cottony and not sweet enough and that is the standard. Bullocks hearts are often gritty and bland with too many seeds. They don't outshine good atemoyas of course but there are good sweet grit free types like one I recently posted.
What is wrong with jaboticabas? They are sweet and trees get loaded. Just get in the groove of biting, sucking out contents and spitting out seeds.
Try capauasu,pitangatuba,vexator,macambo,, E.pyriformis,, E.stipitata, E.victoriana, V.monoica and see if you are disappointed or pleasantly surprised.
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Yeah...I was excited to try cacao, bacupari, wampee...was dissapointed. Cacao has too little flesh, bacupari has that wierd rind taste that makes me gag, wampee was to sour/acidic. I guess the best way to know what you like is to taste the fruit before you buy the tree...exactly what I don't do >:( makes me mad that I didn't try june plum before I bought the tree as I dislike the taste. I can see how you don't like the jaboticaba as it doesn't have much flesh, but nothing would be wrong if you have multiple fruits.
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If you are fickle with jabs Grimals with big fruit, small seeds and a good taste might bring you back from the ranks of the disappointed.
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This will be a long list and I have found many that have not lived up to expectations and descriptions. However I will say the ones on your list are probably not the best examples. Black sapotes are not like chocolate and are mild but ok if you have better varieties but sure no taste sensation. Canistels are alright if you like sweet potato, egg yolk and condensed milk. Milder fruits and those not super sweet like avocado take time and you grow into them.
Soursops can be alright but Cuban fibreless is too cottony and not sweet enough and that is the standard. Bullocks hearts are often gritty and bland with too many seeds. They don't outshine good atemoyas of course but there are good sweet grit free types like one I recently posted.
What is wrong with jaboticabas? They are sweet and trees get loaded. Just get in the groove of biting, sucking out contents and spitting out seeds.
Try capauasu,pitangatuba,vexator,macambo,, E.pyriformis,, E.stipitata, E.victoriana, V.monoica and see if you are disappointed or pleasantly surprised.
Mike thanks for the list i will have to look those up as i dont know scientific names lol. The jabotica was ok certainly better than the others mentioned (grown in the daintree). It has a nice sweet taste when you bite into them, they loose points however for the seeds and the slight bit of flesh that sticks to the seeds. They skin also seems to have a very slight aftertaste of bitterness. I actually have a red hybrid jabotica tree that i will plant as i think they just pass the test.
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Yeah...I was excited to try cacao, bacupari, wampee...was dissapointed. Cacao has too little flesh, bacupari has that wierd rind taste that makes me gag, wampee was to sour/acidic. I guess the best way to know what you like is to taste the fruit before you buy the tree...exactly what I don't do >:( makes me mad that I didn't try june plum before I bought the tree as I dislike the taste. I can see how you don't like the jaboticaba as it doesn't have much flesh, but nothing would be wrong if you have multiple fruits.
yep i have certainly learnt not to buy any more trees until things pass the offical taste test and that includes my kids taste test.
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Red hybrid and scarlets are very good like grimal. Just let them go really ripe so the skin is thin. Sabara can have a little skin after taste but again just let them ripen a bit more even if they are black.
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Yeah...I was excited to try cacao, bacupari, wampee...was dissapointed. Cacao has too little flesh, bacupari has that wierd rind taste that makes me gag, wampee was to sour/acidic. I guess the best way to know what you like is to taste the fruit before you buy the tree...exactly what I don't do >:( makes me mad that I didn't try june plum before I bought the tree as I dislike the taste. I can see how you don't like the jaboticaba as it doesn't have much flesh, but nothing would be wrong if you have multiple fruits.
I actually like green June Plum juice. My kids say it tastes like grass but my wife makes it very good. That's why I planted a second tree.
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A glass of green June Plum juice in February is very satisfying
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Im guessing mike the reason things like lychees, rambutan, mango, papaya are some of the more common commerical stuff grown here is because it tastes best!!!! Maybe that is the simple reason a lot of these rare fruits dont make the commercial cut?? What do you think
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That is definitely part of it but there are overlooked gems all over the place. It that were true completely then popular fruits in Asia would be the same as those in say Brazil. It is more true of temperate fruits I think. There are many species that should be way more popular in western countries and many examples where poorer varieties still dominate when improved types are somewhere else. Sometimes they just have to be brought into the light.
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I think John is right about soursop.If you make the juice properly or make ice lollies or block. I'm sure your kids will be tickled.
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I've never been one to get into something without trying it first. After that, it's all about personal preferences...
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Agree black sapote and canistel are not good. Just my personal opinion. I tried several very nice and ripe fruit and a ross and they just are not enjoyable to me.
Mangos, lychee, mangosteen are all excellent. Cherimoyas also but they may not grow well where you live.
A lot of the eugenias are over rated too IMO. They are ok but temperate cherries and other stone fruit are better.
Papaya even good tasting hawaiian ones are mediocre at best to my taste. A proper watermelon or dragonfeuit is much better IMO.
Its all subjective...
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I want to add pineapple and banana to the worth growing list. They are easy and delicious.
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I've tried my best to like papaya but it just is not happening one-time my wife mix papaya with guava and Barbados cherries to make juice not too bad. Mango juice and pineapple juice are the best and I cannot say that one is better than the other. I'm actually drinking some Myers lemon juice right now that's tasting really good. But I've been inspired by the pineapple thread and my next project is to grow pineapples and some cantaloupe :)
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Black sapote
yellow sapote (cantisel)
Soursop
bulls heart
Jabotica (these were better than the above)
Soursop is the only fruit on your list I enjoy by itself. On the other hand, canistel ice cream is one of my favorite ice cream flavors.
Canistel tastes much better in a milkshake or ice cream form for some reason.
Soursop also makes excellent ice cream and milkshakes.
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Like some of the others above, I'd say that there are quite a few tropical fruits that are excellent for juices, milkshakes, mousses, and jams, but that I wouldn't eat by themselves. Examples include araça-boi (Eugenia stipitata), soursop, cupuaçu, and some of the uvaias. Things like cacau and the Inga spp. are nice to have around to grab off the tree now and again, but they aren't fruits I'd sit down to eat.
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Black Sapote - never could live up to the chocolate pudding name
Pitangatuba - the one i fruited tasted like sulfured dried fruits with some sour notes
Jaboticabas - I think they are fine and grown to appreciate them but I don't think they compare to a normal seedless grape
Soursop - I mostly eat fruit out of hand, so if I have to do anything extra it better be a revelation
Mamey Sapote - same reason as soursop and I don't really care for the filling nature of it.
Sugar Apple - I only had normal purples and greens, maybe a Na dai a few times. Once I had local atemoyas it was game over for these guys. Also, whiteflies and leafhoppers seem to destroy sugar apples in particular out here.
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Black sapote
Wax jambu
Jabos
Dragon fruit (for their taste, not superfood status)
Miracle fruit
Many types of guavas
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I've never tried achachairu but have been thinking about getting one or two trees. Anyone think it's over-rated? I quite like bacupari (G. gardneriana or brasiliensis, not sure which I've had), so I think I'd like achacha, too... would like to try growing mangosteen but I think it'd suffer during our dry seasons.
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Black sapote
Wax jambu
Jabos
Dragon fruit (for their taste, not superfood status)
Miracle fruit
Many types of guavas
You better take that back about guavas.
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I have only had a few canistel, black sapote, and jaboticaba, but I really liked them and am craving more.
Soursop (too sour) and sapodilla (too sweet) are really the only fruits I don’t like. Maybe papaya also. And durian for sure but that is known to be controversial
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The best soursop is a perfect balance of sweet and acidic, and the flavor is intensely tropical. Maybe it's too much work for some, but I've always put the pulp through a strainer to remove the cottony fiber, which I don't enjoy. I know sapodilla is very sweet, but what other fruit has a caramel/butterscotch flavor? It blends well with other fruits in smoothies, too.
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The best soursop is a perfect balance of sweet and acidic, and the flavor is intensely tropical. Maybe it's too much work for some, but I've always put the pulp through a strainer to remove the cottony fiber, which I don't enjoy. I know sapodilla is very sweet, but what other fruit has a caramel/butterscotch flavor? It blends well with other fruits in smoothies, too.
Mamey Sapote
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Black sapote
Wax jambu
Jabos
Dragon fruit (for their taste, not superfood status)
Miracle fruit
Many types of guavas
You better take that back about guavas.
How about "select" guavas. I love the Cas.
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Mangosteen would be your best selection without tasting, that is a top top flavor
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Black sapote
Wax jambu
Jabos
Dragon fruit (for their taste, not superfood status)
Miracle fruit
Many types of guavas
couldn't agree more with Dragon fruit and Jabos. Though both are really impressive. Jabos are good but grapes (some varieties) are better. And grapes give a lot of fruit and are mostly care free. Dragon in my opinion is really promising from its looks but dissapoints... Even the yellow one...
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In this community we are all very fortunate to have sampled a broader range of flavors than most get a chance to. Some favorites are near universal. Others are an acquired taste. It is hard for me to exclude a producing tree from the garden until I try it for 2 or 3 seasons. By experience these have been high production trees like tropical guava, some figs, passion fruit if they are particularly productive, grapefruits, etc... If I can,t eat process or give it away it needs to go unless it is really ornamental. Unfortunately I like almost everything including Durian and relatively insipid fruits like Wax Jambu.
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The yellow dragonfruit from ecuador is absolutely delicious and the best i ever tasted.
White jaboticaba's are also great. I never had another jabo.
Papaya Holland (no1 variety in Thailand) is really delicious, i won't eat another papaya.
Pitangatuba is very sour
Rainforrest plum, eugenia candolleana is a disappointment...same is the barbados cherry and governor plum.
Durian is great, jackfruit is great, dekapon is not great in Thailand, guava's are great (pen si thong), green mango's are the best, mini pineapples are awesome, longkong is nice.
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Of the fruit I have had:
I wouldn’t say papayas are overrated, as many people seem to not like them (wasn’t there a thread on this recently?). Some are definitely better than others, and at their best they are a good, refreshing mild fruit. Not the best in the world, but fits its purpose well.
Dragonfruit is terrible unless it’s the yellow variety, then it’s quite good. I’d put a regular kiwi above it, but I have not had the freshest/best samples of either, so not sure.
Mamey sapote is okay, I don’t really like the flavor that much but it should make good smoothies/milkshakes. Not sure if it’s “overrated,” but it’s nothing spectacular.
Annonas: I’ve had three. A fermented supermarket (Virginia supermarket) cherimoya, a rotting soursop in Indiana, and 5 varieties of pawpaw. The pawpaws were definitely something special, with a very strong flavor and a huge amount of sweetness. I have to say they are somewhat of an acquired taste, and I’m still not sure if I like them, but the Susquehanna variety in particular had a more fruity taste which I enjoyed.
Jaboticabas I’ve tried once in Puerto Rico, and they had a very interesting taste, not sure if that’s normal and don’t know what variety I had. If they all taste like that, I can understand why people like them. Overrated? Based on the crazy prices you see for any “rare” variety, there is definitely a fad going around.
Guavas have a terrific aroma and flavor, though the supermarket ones I’ve had could have been better and the seeds were very distracting. But I can definitely see why people hold them in high esteem, I imagine one of those seedless guavas would be amazing.
Passionfruit is much too sour for me, but in a very hot climate it’s refreshing and good. Not overrated I’d say.
I realize this is getting long, so I’d like to finish by saying that most commercial “superfood” tropical fruits are overrated in the public’s eye, but can be quite good when of good quality and used appropriately. The tropical fruit community looks for “more” than the supermarket offers, and so you have more divide in what people like as the supermarket panders to the most people it can, while tropical fruit enthusiasts grow their own without these concerns. So, as most exotic and unknown fruit will generally have “different” flavors and textures, some people will love them while others will not understand what the fuss is about.
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The best soursop is a perfect balance of sweet and acidic, and the flavor is intensely tropical. Maybe it's too much work for some, but I've always put the pulp through a strainer to remove the cottony fiber, which I don't enjoy. I know sapodilla is very sweet, but what other fruit has a caramel/butterscotch flavor? It blends well with other fruits in smoothies, too.
Mamey Sapote
Really, Rob? I haven't eaten one in years. (It's a Dade County kind of fruit!)
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This thread is on a very subjective and personal level. Its content helps with nothing other than some fruit gossip and soap opera.
Just received intel, the fruit mentioned they don't like you just as much as you don't like them!
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Black sapote
Wax jambu
Jabos
Dragon fruit (for their taste, not superfood status)
Miracle fruit
Many types of guavas
couldn't agree more with Dragon fruit and Jabos. Though both are really impressive. Jabos are good but grapes (some varieties) are better. And grapes give a lot of fruit and are mostly care free. Dragon in my opinion is really promising from its looks but dissapoints... Even the yellow one...
I can agree with grapes being better tasting. Especially the ones that cost $25 for one bunch ::) But who doesn't love fruits that grow off the tree trunk :)
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Black sapote
Wax jambu
Jabos
Dragon fruit (for their taste, not superfood status)
Miracle fruit
Many types of guavas
couldn't agree more with Dragon fruit and Jabos. Though both are really impressive. Jabos are good but grapes (some varieties) are better. And grapes give a lot of fruit and are mostly care free. Dragon in my opinion is really promising from its looks but dissapoints... Even the yellow one...
I can agree with grapes being better tasting. Especially the ones that cost $25 for one bunch ::) But who doesn't love fruits that grow off the tree trunk :)
Yes its something special! It is one reason to try jabos, same with dragon for the looks and for me guavas for the aroma. (so far i dont like the texture and lack of intence flavour on the ones i have tasted)
I believe there are many things more than purely the taste when planting something.
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As others have said, this is subjective and it is best if you can try them yourself. It is no great consolation if most people like something but you don't. Someone mentioned rainforest plum above. One of my trees bore for the first time this year. I ate a few off the tree and I thought it was quite nice, there was a grapey element (including a bit of that foxy element like a concord) but had other fruit notes as well. I picked a bunch to share with my wife and they sat on the counter for 6-8 hours. When we had them together, the foxiness was much more pronounced, other flavors lessened, and astringency seemed more noticeable. I don't know if this is a result of sitting for a few hours but I can think of no other explanation. It went from very nice in my book to pretty unremarkable. I'll have to revisit this in the future.
Someone also mentioned mamey sapote above. This is not one of my favorites out of hand but I challenge you to find a tastier ice cream than mamey ice cream.
John
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grumichama cherry, I don't see the attraction.
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The best soursop is a perfect balance of sweet and acidic, and the flavor is intensely tropical. Maybe it's too much work for some, but I've always put the pulp through a strainer to remove the cottony fiber, which I don't enjoy. I know sapodilla is very sweet, but what other fruit has a caramel/butterscotch flavor? It blends well with other fruits in smoothies, too.
Also lucuma but hard to come by
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So it seems its going to be hard to find a tropical fruit that will trump a lychee, or rambutan. Maybe a mangosteen can do it!!!! I have to wait a few more months until the mangosteen come on to try some.
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There is probbaly a lot of personal preference involved. My husband spits out some things I love. And I really do think people's tastebuds are wired difeerently, maybe through early exposure to certain tastes. That's why some people prefer sweet snacks and others prefer salty or sour snacks. I love noni fruit and maroilles cheese, both of which are quite stinky. Sort of like Vegemite - you either love it or hate it.
I do try to taste fruit before I plant it, just in case.
Carolyn
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It surprises me how many people are saying dragonfruit are no good. I had some delicious white-fleshed (red-skinned) DF this year. They get good once they sit on the vine fully red for a few weeks. Don't pick until the connection gets floppy (thanks Spaugh for that tip). Especially good chilled to nearly frozen.
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So it seems its going to be hard to find a tropical fruit that will trump a lychee, or rambutan. Maybe a mangosteen can do it!!!! I have to wait a few more months until the mangosteen come on to try some.
Imo, there is nothing that can beat the flavor of a good lychee.
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It surprises me how many people are saying dragonfruit are no good. I had some delicious white-fleshed (red-skinned) DF this year. They get good once they sit on the vine fully red for a few weeks. Don't pick until the connection gets floppy (thanks Spaugh for that tip). Especially good chilled to nearly frozen.
A lot of people have never had a good dragonfruit. Everyone that tries my purple fruits and S8 think they are good. They aren't lychees but some are very good. Many also aren't good, there's a lot of variation in DF and it seems where and how they are grown matter a lot.
You have to take peoples opinions with a grain of salt. Like someone in New York city saying cherimoyas are no good etc when all they tried was a junk piece of fruit from the store.
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It surprises me how many people are saying dragonfruit are no good. I had some delicious white-fleshed (red-skinned) DF this year. They get good once they sit on the vine fully red for a few weeks. Don't pick until the connection gets floppy (thanks Spaugh for that tip). Especially good chilled to nearly frozen.
A lot of people have never had a good dragonfruit. Everyone that tries my purple fruits and S8 think they are good. They aren't lychees but some are very good. Many also aren't good, there's a lot of variation in DF and it seems where and how they are grown matter a lot.
You have to take peoples opinions with a grain of salt. Like someone in New York city saying cherimoyas are no good etc when all they tried was a junk piece of fruit from the store.
I agree...especially since all the dragon fruit that I have tasted are store bought and taste like nothing.
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If you compare to lychees, durian, mangosteen and a top atemoya then many fruit come off bruised in the encounter. How many fruit have exceeded expectations?
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If you compare to lychees, durian, mangosteen and a top atemoya then many fruit come off bruised in the encounter. How many fruit have exceeded expectations?
Mike im yet to try durian and mangosteen thats to come this summer, my expectations for durian are at rock bottom however my source who is a local grower tells me that gan yao may suprise me, my expectation for mangosteen is extremely high the equivalent of lychee and rambutan which i rate at the top with maybe the slightest advantage to lychee. Im really keen to try pulasan which i also have a very high expectation for.
Zero fruits so far have exceeded expectations all have been way way below expectation.
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Avocado often seems to disappoint people with their initial taste. Durian also may need a cultured palate for your first dalliance. I have heard people say their expectations were exceeded with abiu and sapodilla. I am guessing long kong could pleasantly surprise people but capuasu may disappoint. If your pleasure is the sweeter fruits with a little acid tang or balance in the mango,pineapple and mandarin kinda way then fruits of that type perhaps should be focussed on for acquisition.
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If you compare to lychees, durian, mangosteen and a top atemoya then many fruit come off bruised in the encounter. How many fruit have exceeded expectations?
Mike im yet to try durian and mangosteen thats to come this summer, my expectations for durian are at rock bottom however my source who is a local grower tells me that gan yao may suprise me, my expectation for mangosteen is extremely high the equivalent of lychee and rambutan which i rate at the top with maybe the slightest advantage to lychee. Im really keen to try pulasan which i also have a very high expectation for.
Zero fruits so far have exceeded expectations all have been way way below expectation.
I think you might need to stop expecting so much from the fruits. They are just fruits after all.
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Yeah...I was excited to try cacao, bacupari, wampee...was dissapointed. Cacao has too little flesh, bacupari has that wierd rind taste that makes me gag, wampee was to sour/acidic. I guess the best way to know what you like is to taste the fruit before you buy the tree...exactly what I don't do >:( makes me mad that I didn't try june plum before I bought the tree as I dislike the taste. I can see how you don't like the jaboticaba as it doesn't have much flesh, but nothing would be wrong if you have multiple fruits.
Hey Jab45 did you try regular wampee or the pink one? I’m growing the pink one. Thanks
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If you compare to lychees, durian, mangosteen and a top atemoya then many fruit come off bruised in the encounter. How many fruit have exceeded expectations?
Mike im yet to try durian and mangosteen thats to come this summer, my expectations for durian are at rock bottom however my source who is a local grower tells me that gan yao may suprise me, my expectation for mangosteen is extremely high the equivalent of lychee and rambutan which i rate at the top with maybe the slightest advantage to lychee. Im really keen to try pulasan which i also have a very high expectation for.
Zero fruits so far have exceeded expectations all have been way way below expectation.
I think you might need to stop expecting so much from the fruits. They are just fruits after all.
I agree if you go in with lower expectations you just might be surprised ;)
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Yeah...I was excited to try cacao, bacupari, wampee...was dissapointed. Cacao has too little flesh, bacupari has that wierd rind taste that makes me gag, wampee was to sour/acidic. I guess the best way to know what you like is to taste the fruit before you buy the tree...exactly what I don't do >:( makes me mad that I didn't try june plum before I bought the tree as I dislike the taste. I can see how you don't like the jaboticaba as it doesn't have much flesh, but nothing would be wrong if you have multiple fruits.
Hey Jab45 did you try regular wampee or the pink one? I’m growing the pink one. Thanks
I tasted the regular one fresh off the tree at F and S. I have heard the pink one tastes better though. Hope that helps.
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It surprises me how many people are saying dragonfruit are no good. I had some delicious white-fleshed (red-skinned) DF this year. They get good once they sit on the vine fully red for a few weeks. Don't pick until the connection gets floppy (thanks Spaugh for that tip). Especially good chilled to nearly frozen.
A lot of people have never had a good dragonfruit. Everyone that tries my purple fruits and S8 think they are good. They aren't lychees but some are very good. Many also aren't good, there's a lot of variation in DF and it seems where and how they are grown matter a lot.
You have to take peoples opinions with a grain of salt. Like someone in New York city saying cherimoyas are no good etc when all they tried was a junk piece of fruit from the store.
Great points. Also, let’s not forget that while some fruit seems disappointing now, it just means there is room to improve upon. Take for example the mango....started out as turpentine or worse....could only suck the juice out of it....now thanks to Zill and others we have incredible mangos with no fiber and range of flavor profiles. The real challenge is to improve upon what is 👍
-joe
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Yeah...I was excited to try cacao, bacupari, wampee...was dissapointed. Cacao has too little flesh, bacupari has that wierd rind taste that makes me gag, wampee was to sour/acidic. I guess the best way to know what you like is to taste the fruit before you buy the tree...exactly what I don't do >:( makes me mad that I didn't try june plum before I bought the tree as I dislike the taste. I can see how you don't like the jaboticaba as it doesn't have much flesh, but nothing would be wrong if you have multiple fruits.
Hey Jab45 did you try regular wampee or the pink one? I’m growing the pink one. Thanks
I tasted the regular one fresh off the tree at F and S. I have heard the pink one tastes better though. Hope that helps.
Thanks Jab! That gives me hope
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Mangoes were improved centuries prior to Zil coming on the scene. Feral stringies might be closer to the wild type and they are turps free but very stringy. Sometimes after you try fruit and are disappointed, you change and like them better when you try them again.
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Mike is this an exercise of futility. This is like asking which vegetables are overrated I am a Butterbean man but I despise corn unless it's popcorn :)
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Jujube to me tastes like a bad version of an apple. Why would anyone choose it over a bigger, better tasting apple?
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To many factors go into a good or bad reaction to fruit taste.Cultivars stage of ripeness ect.........
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Jujube to me tastes like a bad version of an apple. Why would anyone choose it over a bigger, better tasting apple?
Agree, tastes like mealy apple. Maybe people like then when they are dried out or overripe?
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Jujube to me tastes like a bad version of an apple. Why would anyone choose it over a bigger, better tasting apple?
Because good jujubes are sweeter, more crunchy, smaller than an apple.. I've never had an apple as sweet/crispy as a chinese grown jujube.
Also we have the green jujubes which are not bad, like a granny smith...we can't grow apples in the real tropics, (also no chinese jujubes) but the green jujubes are refreshing as well.
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Jujube to me tastes like a bad version of an apple. Why would anyone choose it over a bigger, better tasting apple?
Because good jujubes are sweeter, more crunchy, smaller than an apple.. I've never had an apple as sweet/crispy as a chinese grown jujube.
Also we have the green jujubes which are not bad, like a granny smith...we can't grow apples in the real tropics, (also no chinese jujubes) but the green jujubes are refreshing as well.
I had some california grown ones claiming to be high brix. They were just little mealy dry apples with way less sweetness and flavor.
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Jujube to me tastes like a bad version of an apple. Why would anyone choose it over a bigger, better tasting apple?
Because good jujubes are sweeter, more crunchy, smaller than an apple.. I've never had an apple as sweet/crispy as a chinese grown jujube.
Also we have the green jujubes which are not bad, like a granny smith...we can't grow apples in the real tropics, (also no chinese jujubes) but the green jujubes are refreshing as well.
I had some california grown ones claiming to be high brix. They were just little mealy dry apples with way less sweetness and flavor.
There are many different jujubes but we get the round ones from China...very nice, i can eat them all day..sure they are sweet.
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The one time a fruit exceeded my expectation by very far, is when I had an imported Indian Alphonso, after years munching on commercial store bought varieties.
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The best soursop is a perfect balance of sweet and acidic, and the flavor is intensely tropical. Maybe it's too much work for some, but I've always put the pulp through a strainer to remove the cottony fiber, which I don't enjoy. I know sapodilla is very sweet, but what other fruit has a caramel/butterscotch flavor? It blends well with other fruits in smoothies, too.
abiu
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The difference between a good mango, papaya, pineapple,passionfruit, soursop, abiu, jackfruit, lychee, dragonfruit and atemoya and a bad example of these is an immense chasm. If you have been unlucky and sampled a lacklustre example for your first try my advice is don't give up on that fruit. A tree ripened example from a healthy tree of premium variety may be a whole new ball game. I have seen people swear off papaya, dragonfruit and abiu only to change their tune when they have tried something decent. It isn't always the case however as some fruit are always sour, bland, have a disagreeable aftertaste to some palates but I think this is often not the case.
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Guys, if you lived in Russia, then all the fruits you listed would arouse great interest for you, and you would try everything, without thinking too much about the taste. The only question you would have is: Why the hell is nothing growing in my country !?
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Guys, if you lived in Russia, then all the fruits you listed would arouse great interest for you, and you would try everything, without thinking too much about the taste. The only question you would have is: Why the hell is nothing growing in my country !?
Russians in Thailand like to eat much fruit and drink beer at the same time...but they don't buy durian.
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Russians in Thailand like to eat much fruit and drink beer at the same time...but they don't buy durian.
Apparently the majority of Russians are afraid of this smell. I have never tried durian, but if the opportunity presents itself, I will not refuse. ;)
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Durian and alcohol don't mix and operatives wouldn't want to be compromised. I too have tanked up on durian and been tanked afterwards and durian tastes better going down than up.
Anyway part of the rich and varied tapestry of life is diversity and trying new things. Many fruits you learn to enjoy and its good to expand your horizons.
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This thread shows that fruit tastes are extremely varied, and that one person's overrated fruit is another's favorite.
Spanish lime/Mamoncillo/Genip (Melicoccus bijugatus) is one fruit I believe is overrated. I like the taste, but the flesh to seed ratio is appalling.
I find jackfruit overrated. Ones that I have had were likely picked too early and had a slight savory/onion aftertaste with only a mild Juicy Fruit gum taste. Plus, cutting one of them up makes quite the mess.
Other people swear by Gold Nugget mandarins and Minneola tangelos, but while I do like a good Sumo (Dekopon), my citrus tastes run towards grapefruits and pomelos. If I could buy those for the same price as tasteless navel oranges, then my grocery store would not be able to keep enough of them in stock for me.
I have never had jaboticabas, but I walk right past the regular seedless grape section to buy Concords, Thomcords, and muscadines, all grape varieties/species with unique, strong flavors that some people love and others cannot stand. I can see jaboticaba varieties being similarly polarizing.
Other fruits mentioned in this thread, such as mamey sapote and soursop, are ones I like a great deal.
I agree with the original poster, Gone tropo, as well as others who have replied in this thread, that lychee and rambutan are some of the best fruits in the world (both are in my top 10 favorite fruits) and most fruits, even very good ones, suffer in comparison to those.
Taste in fruit is subjective, but it is fun to see what some people like and others dislike.
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This thread shows that fruit tastes are extremely varied, and that one person's overrated fruit is another's favorite.
Spanish lime/Mamoncillo/Gunip (Melicoccus bijugatus) is one fruit I believe is overrated. I like the taste, but the flesh to seed ratio is appalling.
I find jackfruit overrated. Ones that I have had were likely picked too early and had a slight savory/onion aftertaste with only a mild Juicy Fruit gum taste. Plus, cutting one of them up makes quite the mess.
Other people swear by Gold Nugget mandarins and Minneola tangelos, but while I do like a good Sumo (Dekopon), my citrus tastes run towards grapefruits and pomelos. If I could buy those for the same price as tasteless navel oranges, then my grocery store would not be able to keep enough of them in stock for me.
I have never had jaboticabas, but I walk right past the regular seedless grape section to buy Concords, Thomcords, and muscadines, all grape varieties/species with unique, strong flavors that some people love and others cannot stand. I can see jaboticaba varieties being similarly polarizing.
Other fruits mentioned in this thread, such as mamey sapote and soursop, are ones I like a great deal.
I agree with the original poster, Gone tropo, as well as others who have replied in this thread, that lychee and rambutan are some of the best fruits in the world (both are in my top 10 favorite fruits) and most fruits, even very good ones, suffer in comparison to those.
Taste in fruit is subjective, but it is fun to see what some people like and others dislike.
I've bought jackfruit from all over Thailand...most of them were not that good, the sloppy ones i won't even write about. But we have one streetvendor who has always perfect very very nice jackfruit...i prefer Thong Prasert but it tastes almost the same as the other varieties she sells.
Getting perfect jackfruit isn't easy at all or all the other vendors would also have the same quality. My own jackfruit tree (grafted) also didn't taste that good. So it's not a matter of genetic material, i live in the same city as that streetvendor so have the same climate...but they taste totally different.
Don't give up on them, try other shops because there sure are very good jackfruits around. And jackfruit tree's can stand very high temps, very much sun so give it all to them.
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Because we need an acid/sugar balance I will mention a few fruit that exceeded expectations. Ernie passionfruit, penang 88 durian, Eugenia lutescens, duku langsat, twisted chempedak, alva starapple, juicy pearl starapple, golden soursop, Wan maprang, kwai muk, shathoot mulberries and many others exceeded expectations.
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A few dragonfruit have also been sweet with a good taste so I am surprised every time I have a good one as the first ones I tried were bland. The pictured one doesn't even have a name yet.
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A few dragonfruit have also been sweet with a good taste so I am surprised every time I have a good one as the first ones I tried were bland. The pictured one doesn't even have a name yet.
That is a welcome praise report Mike. When i first read thread I thought it was useful .I though that I wouldn't bother trying most of these fruit. As I continued reading the thread I got this overwhelming feeling like someone just peed or urinated in my cornflakes. So I have decided if I have the opportunity I will try any and all of these fruit. One never knows, i am a strange bird.Lol :)
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The one time a fruit exceeded my expectation by very far, is when I had an imported Indian Alphonso, after years munching on commercial store bought varieties.
I can relate to that. Cuz that's pretty much was my experience for years. I thought store-bought mango were putrid. Then one day I had a fresh Florida Mango off the tree and things have never been the same. I did give a store-bought mango a second chance thinking that maybe I just wasn't purchasing ripe ones. But after one bite it went straight to the rubbish can
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The one time a fruit exceeded my expectation by very far, is when I had an imported Indian Alphonso, after years munching on commercial store bought varieties.
I can relate to that. Cuz that's pretty much was my experience for years. I thought store-bought mango were putrid. Then one day I had a fresh Florida Mango off the tree and things have never been the same. I did give a store-bought mango a second chance thinking that maybe I just wasn't purchasing ripe ones. But after one bite it went straight to the rubbish can
Let me give you a tip, if you find a moderate size organic Kent from Peru with nice coloring, get it! And report later :)
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If we are talking about disappointing mangoes then kent should feature in discussion as should Julie, TA, haden, brooks,palmer and even keitt. If you have a mixed bag of mangoes and eat them together these don't fair well in open competition.
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If we are talking about disappointing mangoes then kent should feature in discussion as should Julie, TA, haden, brooks,palmer and even keitt. If you have a mixed bag of mangoes and eat them together these don't fair well in open competition.
I think the origin also makes a big difference. Organic Peruvian Kents in my opinion score much higher than the rest.
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White-fleshed dragonfruit are crap. I’ve had good Pink-fleshed ones though