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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Help ID Satsuma mandarin variety
« on: December 17, 2020, 05:39:42 PM »



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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Help ID Satsuma mandarin variety
« on: December 17, 2020, 05:38:23 PM »
Yes, same here. I had some Gold Nugget that was already ripe a week ago, now I have more that are yellow but not ripe yet. Seems the fruits get sweeter if you wait about a month after it turns yellow. For me that seems to be about mid-Jan to Feb. Gold Nugget taste good if you pick them at the right time.

On the other hand, my Ponkan has been ripening for the last month and you can pick any yellow(ripe) fruit off the tree and it will be sweet. It seems to hang on the tree ripe longer so its easier to get good tasting fruit if its yellow.
I have 4 sumo's on my tree this year but I was going to wait until the end of January or early February to try them. I was also going to wait until Feb for the GN's. I know they will be gone by early march. I have about a 100 fruit on my 4 foot tree.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Help ID Satsuma mandarin variety
« on: December 17, 2020, 10:11:03 AM »
My Gold Nugget this year has several clusters of fruit on it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: December 16, 2020, 10:39:37 AM »
Hello, I am new to the forum.  I planted a Holiday avocado four years ago and I noticed fruit on the tree for the first time two months ago.  The tree was pretty much left alone with drip irrigation and ignored for the last few years.  I don’t know when the first fruit set on the tree.  I have about 5 avocados total on the tree and I would hate to pick any if it’s not ready.  Based on what I read, if it’s this year’s fruit then it’s not ready and I should wait but I truly do not know if these are from last year.  Can you look at the pictures and tell me if it’s ready to harvest?  Thanks!



those will be ready to pick Sept-Dec of 2021 hence the name Holiday- (Labor Day through Xmas). Do  not pick them in the summer wait until Thanksgiving and try one first then if its good enjoy the rest of them. They are one of if not the longest avocado varieties for its fruit to develop and ripen.

https://www.fourwindsgrowers.com/products/holiday-avocado?variant=12282042712168

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: What variety is this Satsuma
« on: December 16, 2020, 10:32:33 AM »
I have only seen Okitsu and Owari at the HD's in my area.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Sugar Belle Orangs
« on: December 16, 2020, 09:57:26 AM »
I read a few different articles so they are actually considered a mandarin and not an orange correct ?
Sugar Belle is a cross between Clementine and Minneola tangelo.
Yes, it would technically still be considered a mandarin, although due to both its parents, a very "orange"-like mandarin.

The exact delineation between mandarins, tangors, oranges, etc, is not always a completely clear one.
That is what I thought thanks !

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Sugar Belle Orangs
« on: December 15, 2020, 10:05:12 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acl7aWAuX4E

I read a few different articles so they are actually considered a mandarin and not an orange correct ?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Question on Kishu mandarins
« on: December 14, 2020, 04:45:19 PM »
most people would agree with you that Kishu is generally described as a good tasting fruit.   I think it is a good tasting fruit.  The main problem with
Kishu for many people is that it is just to small to mess, with especially small after peeling it.
The fruit size is not an issue for me at all, since they are effortless to peel, and the inside is virtually seedless (maybe only one or two seeds in every one out of four fruits).
With it being so easy to peel, taking no effort, it is as easy to peel four or five little Kishu fruits as it is to peel one regular mandarin, at least that is the way I feel.
It is certainly easier to peel and eat several Kishu fruits than it is to eat a mandarin that has several seeds in it.

Look, if these little fruits were harder to peel, like many mandarin varieties are, or had many seeds in them, I would not bother, but having such loose skin makes having to peel several fruits not feel like work.
I think Kishu is probably the easiest mandarin out of all the varieties to peel, since the skin is so loose. Even a little bit easier than Satsuma.
Personally I agree with your sentiments wholeheartedly. I think they are great tasting and really easy to peel. The size of the fruit doesn't matter to me and I will take a smaller seedless fruit 24/7 over a great tasting mandarin with seeds.

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So at Thanksgiving we did a taste testing with 4 varieties and the hands down winner was the Okitsu followed by the Owari then kishu and last was the miyagawa. This was the first season for both the okitsu and miyagawa fruiting. So thats a great sign for the Okitsu as it was the clear winner for everyone who tried it which was 12 people.

New Years I will be tasting an early picked Dekopon, Early picked Tango, Tahoe Gold, Cara Cara and Honey,

Then in Spring it will be all the golds- tahoe, shasta and nugget (no fruit this year on yosemite - will fruit this spring) and tango.

Next season I will be adding to the taste testing Yosemite, Moro, Xie Shan, Lee x Nova,

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: My In Ground Cara Cara
« on: December 06, 2020, 06:04:40 PM »
must see pics    ;D

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Covid
« on: November 28, 2020, 09:03:18 AM »
My 33 year old son just got over it after 2 weeks. He said it was by far the worst thing he has ever experienced in his life. He said he knows why it is so deadly for anyone who has a weakened immune system or the elderly. He had every one of the symptoms associated with covid.

Praying you have a speedy recovery.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Thanksgiving
« on: November 26, 2020, 03:28:17 PM »
Happy Thanksgiving to all. I'm having a mandarin tasting with fruit from my yard- Kishu, Okitsu, Owari, Miyagawa Honey and Page :)

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Question on Kishu mandarins
« on: November 22, 2020, 11:22:26 AM »
As a side note I have Owari , Okitsu and Miyagawa mandarins this season. I'm not impressed with the flavor of the Miyagawa but this is its first year fruiting so hopefully it develops better flavor as the years go by.

I'm looking forward to my Xie Shan, Lee x Nova producing over the next couple of seasons.

And I cannot wait to taste my Dekopon which has 6 fruit on it  :)

 What difference do you see between Owari and Okitsu?  Or they are pretty much the same taste?
very similar to me so far if I had to give an edge it would be my okitsu but that might be because its more mature and has been producing longer than the owari has been producing.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Question on Kishu mandarins
« on: November 21, 2020, 11:32:55 AM »
As a side note I have Owari , Okitsu and Miyagawa mandarins this season. I'm not impressed with the flavor of the Miyagawa but this is its first year fruiting so hopefully it develops better flavor as the years go by.

I'm looking forward to my Xie Shan, Lee x Nova producing over the next couple of seasons.

And I cannot wait to taste my Dekopon which has 6 fruit on it  :)

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Question on Kishu mandarins
« on: November 21, 2020, 10:53:51 AM »
Mine have always been excellent. They taste like orange Lifesavers.

I like your description :)

Next season I will try and keep them on the tree until January. Mine are always gone by Thanksgiving.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Question on Kishu mandarins
« on: November 20, 2020, 10:38:48 PM »
I got my first kishu fruits there year and they were good, sweet and flavorful.

Owari satsuma is still my favorite mandarin that I've grown so far, though.  It is similar to kishu but the fruits are larger.

Agreed I have both and its a toss up.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Question on Kishu mandarins
« on: November 20, 2020, 04:07:45 PM »
I guess its one of those different strokes for different folks as everyone who tries mine absolutely love them. Mine are always all gone by Thanksgiving. Mine are sweet but also have some complexity and a bit of tartness. I suppose if they lasted into the new year they would sweeten up considerably more.

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Thanks for sharing the story. That is one variety I do not have right now. I'm going to give my daughter my Fuerte so I might replace it with the lamb hass

I have the following now

bacon
carmen
d'atruro
fuerte
gem
gwen
mexicola
pinkerton
reed
stuart/stewart
wurtz

last year I gave my son in law my hass and sir prize

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus 2020 (potted)
« on: November 08, 2020, 06:19:07 PM »
I've eaten most of my okitsu wase satsumas and my kishu already. :)  My Owari are ripening now and a few other satsuma varieties are starting to color up in 9b Modesto area.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: What lime is it that I had in Costa Rica?
« on: October 26, 2020, 12:31:15 PM »
Limón mandarina is a hybrid between the mandarin orange and the lemon. It is preferred over other varieties of lemons or limes in Costa Rica because it is easier to peel, juicier (and therefore easier to squeeze), has beautiful orange pulp, and is slightly more sweet than the regular lemons or limes yet still very sour.
From:
http://ardentlight.com/ministry/lemon/


Yes!!  That’s it in the picture! How do I find seeds or plants?  I might need some help from our tico members so I get the right seeds.  Seems to be some debate over what this is.

And yes, it’s absolutely delicious.  Perfectly bridges the gap between sour and sweet.  Like a lime and a mandarin had a baby.
if you get some I might have to drive down to morro bay from modesto lol  :)  just kidding.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Tangerine flowering now
« on: October 22, 2020, 09:53:17 AM »
Millet----thank you for your advice.

Container Man----thank you too.
                                I'm still very impressed with your Little Cado growing technique in wine barrel for 6+ years without repotting it.

last season it had 45 fruit this season I just counted and it has 33 fruit. I pruned the lower branches last season and they came back with twice as many vigorous ones. I'm expecting a better season this coming year.

Yeh, that is plenty of fruits for container grown tree.  My wurtz is on its second year in the ground and bears its first  6 fruits.  Can't wait to taste them.

You are growing Gem avo in pot too?  Has it gaven you any fruits yet?  If so, how do you like the taste? 
I went to Brokaw in Oxnard by my house, to buy Gem avocado.  But they only sell a quantity of 25+ plants.  What a bum!

Still in search for mini-nugget barks for the container grown...  I have found Whittier Fertilizer in Pico Riviera selling mini-nuggets.  I'm going to drive there to check them out.  Hopefully it will be the right stuffs.  Do you screen your bark nuggets ?


Tangerine trees do not like sand, do they?  I mixed 40% sand, 20% perlite, 30% coco coir, and 10% peat for potting mix.  They are not happy due to drainage issue.

My Gem,Reed, Gwen, Carmen and D'Arturo are new young trees so they are a few years from producing. My Reed has doubled in size and might give me a few fruit this season, we will see. I'm expecting all my other varieties to produce this season as they are filling out with really nice and full canopies. Fuerte, Mexicola, Pinkerton, Bacon, Stuart and Wurtz.

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Pruning all my stone fruit trees which i will turn into great mulch for my 11 varieties of avocado trees  :)

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Santa Teresa lemon taste?
« on: October 20, 2020, 11:28:13 AM »
My Santa Teresa lemons are not much different from common lemons.  They ripen over a long period of time and can hang on the tree for many months without breaking down. 
This is a great trait because lemon trees don't usually fruit year round in Phoenix AZ like they do elsewhere.  They bloom in the spring and ripen in the winter.
My Meyer lemons all ripen within a month and starts to rot or dry up a month after that, so Santa Teresa is more useful here in Phoenix.

That is interesting because my meyer lemons hand on the tree for a long time and remain very juicy whereas Eurekas in my experience dry up.

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I like bacon and stuart/stewart. Stuart range is 18-24* depending on the cite and bacon is 24*

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is the best tasting avocado variety?
« on: October 19, 2020, 12:11:31 PM »
just like with any other fruit taste is subjective. I've heard Jan Boyce makes the top 5 list. Reed, Gem, Holiday when ripe(18 months), Fuerte but it alternate bears. Carmen is another which produces multiple crops annually.

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