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Dwarf Hawaiian has better flavor but does have some fiber which people who can’t tolerate any fiber in a mango are going to object to. I love the Dwarf Hawaiian personally though. The flavor is very similar to Julie with lots of coconut notes.

Honey Kiss is the stronger producer and has no fiber. The Fruit also matures later in the season.

I see that the OP is in Arizona however. Neither may be a good choice in that climate as they’ll probably grow too slowly and flower too frequently.

I like a good Rosigold a lot better than one-dimensional, boring Nam Doc Mai with its complete lack of sub-acidity or complexity. Nam Doc Mai makes me want to take a nap.

The earliest Rosigolds (talking about the ones that ripen in mid-March), fruit from really young Rosigold trees, and/or overwatered trees can be mediocre. But good examples of the fruit are a lovely classical-flavor group fruit with lots of stone fruit notes. Some of the April Rosis we’ve had have hit the low 20s in Brix. Really nice sweetness.

And as far as which is the smaller tree, Rosigold wins that contest against Nam Doc Mai as well. Also, while NDM has better anthracnose resistance, it is a magnet for powdery mildew.

Can anyone describe the Orange Essence tree?  Is it generally a large tree, similar to its parent Kent?  (I read that somewhere.)  No chance it's a compact, slow-growing tree?  How does Peach Cobbler compare as far as growth characteristics?  More compact, slower-growing?

Orange Essence has an upright, vertical-oriented growth habit. Not slow growing from the trees we’ve observed. Moderately vigorous to vigorous in rate.

Peach Cobbler is hyper-vigorous though, and grows more aggressively than Orange Essence because it’s not as precocious or consistently productive. Been known to flush vegetative growth during the bloom season, which hasn’t been an issue with the Orange Essence trees.

On the discussion about Cecilove, this year they tasted more like Zinc than Sweet Tart, which was the opposite in prior years. Nothing wrong with that of course because Zinc is superb (when ripened properly).

And as an all-around tree (not strictly flavor), Cecilove is superior to both

Another Indochinese hybrid type that impressed was 34-15. AlThough the fruit came out really small.

Our Bennett (well, the older of two) flowered and fruited this year only two years after we grafted it. Pretty impressive for an Alphonso in south Florida.

The fruit actually had spongey tissue problems but so did our regular Alphonso for the first time in forever. I’m optimistic it won’t be a long term problem and think Bennet will outperform the regular by a long shot.

White hasn’t fruited yet but I’ve had strong support voiced for it by people familiar with the fruit. I’m optimistic about that one too.

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Hopefully the budwood for you Osteen tree didn’t come from the fruit and spice park .

I do not believe it did. 
Is there a story I should know?

The one at the park is a fraud and actually an Eldon. Some trees that were grafted from it made it into the nursery trade at one point years ago.

Not certain but I think this might be from the USDA collection,, circa 2018.
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Good, then it should be the real deal. Fairchild Garden also had a real Osteen which is where the budwood for our own tree came from.

Hopefully the budwood for your Osteen tree didn’t come from the fruit and spice park .

No. Might be Sugarloaf though.

Piña Colada is a lot more disease prone than Sugarloaf when it comes to anthracnose and PM. I like them both equally in terms of flavor despite the differences between them. Sugarloaf is likely to be the better long-term performer for backyard growers in terms of production.

I suppose Piña Colada is a “slower” grower. They flush at about the same rate but Pina Colada has shorter internodal spacing between the leaves.

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Growth habit has only been moderate and canopy somewhat open so far. Fruited in year two (tree is a topwork).

I’m pretty positive it is a Bombay derivative . Flavor is extremely similar and it makes sense given Bombay/ Pairi was one of the Indian mangos available in south Florida 100 years ago.

Thanks for the comments guys.

Friday is going to be our last day of regular hours. We’ve been open daily since April so we’ve done alright.

Going to sell by appointment after that, into August I would expect.