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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: February 12, 2018, 11:18:29 PM »
Hey guys, I'm looking for the biggest white flesh variety there is out there which is self pollinating. Taste, flavour or other factors doesn't matter. I'm in just for the size. Need the variety name which sets the biggest fruit size wise.
Thanks!

Vietnamese Giant?

I Agree that was first Dragonfruit i had from a neighbor and it gives alot of fruit and big with no maintenance here in Florida

Thank you Richard and FamilyJ. Appreciate your help guys. If there's any other white flesh similar to the size of Vietnamese giant please pour in your suggestions.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: February 12, 2018, 07:18:00 AM »
Hey guys, I'm looking for the biggest white flesh variety there is out there which is self pollinating. Taste, flavour or other factors doesn't matter. I'm in just for the size. Need the variety name which sets the biggest fruit size wise.
Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: September 09, 2017, 03:08:15 AM »
Hey fellow dragonfruit growers! I'm a complete newbie when it comes to this. Have a couple questions!

 My plants (where I got them from) were started as tissue cultures. I read that growing from seed can take years to produce, are tissue cultures the same? Or would it be similar to a small cutting?

Also, what size pot do y'all recommend for small plants? (Under 1 foot tall)

I have tissue culture plants about 3 years old and they haven't yet fruited. I think they take as long as seedling plants. Shall update if I ever get a fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: August 12, 2015, 11:35:06 AM »
If you are going to experiment with cross breeding, my suggestion to start out with would be volume, especially if you are going to be crossing radically differing species, like a yellow and red. Cross your fruit, let them mature and then harvest ALL the seeds. Spread them out over large areas, like baking pans or similar large surface areas, and wait for them to grow. Watch how the seedlings mature and keep an eye out for characteristics of the new shoots. After a few weeks to months, you should be able to distinguish between species. For example, if you were trying to grow pink fruit with the sweetness of yellow, you might want to eliminate most yellow shoots once you know which they are, so you don't get caught in the yellow megalanthus's 180 ripening cycle. This will cut your observation crop down quite a bit. THen just keep looking for abnormalities in the maturing plants. A pink branched plant that matures with the thorns from a yellow (as an example) might end up being an entirely new species, and something to consider paying favor to. Of course, the new plants might make entirely new fruit without showing a single variation in structure from the parent species, which just goes to show the importance of experimental breeding and is a testament to the effort and work the people who do this sort of thing put into this.

For now it would be between unknown red and white. I still don't have a megalanthus and the link Simon gave pretty much shows the cross between others and megalanthus.
About the elimation of shoots solely by looking at the stem, I'm still a novice when it comes to df growing and don't think I could differentiate it. But thank you for all the suggestions. It's always fascinating to learn anything new about this wonderful fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: August 11, 2015, 07:19:48 AM »
Thanks simon, fyliu and ricshaw.

Okay, so I have to take the fruit that was cross pollinated and sow its seeds and this plant would then turn out a different colored fruit. It's not certain that the fruit would be pink, it could be anything, as you guys say. And of course plants grown from seeds are not true to their mother plant. So basically I would be creating a new color/flavor fruit.

Sounds interesting and would like to try once my plants start flowering. The long wait for the seeds to grow in to mature plants is the only down side.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: August 10, 2015, 09:59:20 AM »
Could someone please help clarify my doubt. I can't seem to find an answer for it on the net.

What happens if I take pollen from a red flesh variety and use it on a white flesh or vice versa for that matter. Would I get a pink flesh fruit?
Or, is it that the pollen does not matter where it came from and ultimately I get the mother plant fruit always?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: August 02, 2015, 11:51:51 AM »
Ok, I'm freaking out. That thing is expanding and the more I look at it, the less it looks like some insect bites.
It looks more like the plant is sick. Could it be the water? It's hot now and I've been watering it everyday.

Months ago I had posted a similar damage with my df plant (it should be on this thread within the pages). The only difference was that the damage on my plant was yellowish in color then turned white and kinda translucent. But it spead like mad and before you know the only thing left is the middle thingy. The problem with my plant was over watering. I live in a dry climate and thus thought the plant would need more water like some of my other plants but I was wrong.
I learned it the hard way, to always put your finger in the soil and check, if the soil is dry only then water it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: July 22, 2015, 03:42:05 AM »
What are some of the ways to boost growth for a df plant?

It seems my plants take forever to grow. They grow a bit and suddenly become dormant for a while. I fertilize once in two months with organic fertilizer, namely - 'neem cake', 'vermicompost' and something called 'all mix'.





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Banganpalli Mangos
« on: June 18, 2015, 02:56:33 AM »
I just recieved a box of Baganpalli Mangos from India and they taste fantastic! I took a bite and the flesh was fiberless and very sweet. Then, I pulled out my refractometer to test the Brix and was very surprised that it only tested at 16% Brix! Most the mangos I consider sweet are more in the 20+% range. I thought I took a bad reading so I calibrated my refractometer and took another reading and got the same result.

If you like a strong resinous Mango like the Kesar and Alphonso, you'll probably like this Mango. This Mango has much more resin taste than a Bombay, Kesar and Alphonso. This mango is also very juicy! An excellent strong flavored Mango!

Simon


It indeed has a nice flavour. The only issue with this mango variety, in my personal opinion is that the flesh towards the seed is always a bit sour no matter how ripe the mango is. I guess this is the reason for the lower brix score.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When to harvest mangos?
« on: June 05, 2015, 11:28:52 AM »
The way I was taught to do it here from a local experienced farmer was to wait until at least one fruit on the tree is semi ripe. Meaning, the top portion to turn yellow, covering approximately 25% of the mango. Once a fruit has reached this stage, the remaining fruit from the tree is ready to be plucked.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: May 02, 2015, 11:16:27 PM »
How many lateral shoots to keep once we cut the top off?

I am seeing 12 new shoots popping, some are as low as 2 feet from the top where I cut.

Is this normal? Do I keep them all or limit them to only a few on the very top?

Or let them all grow and prune them later and use it as cuttings?

Please advice.



It's normal. I prune everything below the trellis top. Every couple months it tries to put out more shoots below the trellis but otherwise the plant will know to only produce from the top. If you want fruit soon, don't wait for them to get big and take cuttings, just prune.

Okay, thanks so much.

I'll try to balance it out between cuttings and fruit. May be keep 1 or max 2 shoots below the trellis for future cuttings.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: May 02, 2015, 12:50:51 AM »
How many lateral shoots to keep once we cut the top off?

I am seeing 12 new shoots popping, some are as low as 2 feet from the top where I cut.

Is this normal? Do I keep them all or limit them to only a few on the very top?

Or let them all grow and prune them later and use it as cuttings?

Please advice.


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Sweet!! Can't wait to get my hands on them.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon fruit plant indoors at night?
« on: April 17, 2015, 11:14:40 PM »
IMO, mature Dragon Fruit plants are not good house plants.

Yes, once big it will be trouble bringing them in but I'm starting off with a cutting for now.

The pollination happens at night , so bringing it inside at night just ensures you are removing it from reach of the bats and moths that do this job.  You'd have to hand pollinate them.   The main question is "why"?   They don't need the extended light cycles, and tend to be rapid growers naturally.

I did not think about the pollination. May be once they flower I'll leave them outside.

There are farms in Vietnam and other places that use lighting at night to speed up the growth even more.

My main concern is would house lighting be enough or do they require light bulbs close to the plant?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Dragon fruit plant indoors at night?
« on: April 17, 2015, 10:37:29 AM »
I have this idea bugging me since few days.

How about I grow df in a container with a nice cute trellis and the container sits on a set of wheels for easy movement. The idea here is, to get the df in the house at night, where there is artificial light until I go to bed or may be even leave the light on all night. The light is not very bright and neither close to the plant but at least something instead of nothing. In the morning, move the plant back in to the sun.

I have a feeling this would help the df grow a tiny bit faster and fruit better. (And also make my house look cool at night).

What say guys? Or will this make no difference?


Reason why I just can't fit a light bulb near the plant: There are these wild pigeons that sleep around my apartment and near by the plants. Having a bright light would disturb their so called sleep. >:(

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Is it possible to ship plants, or are we restricted to only seeds?

Also, can you obtain for me the varieties Ra-Jamun and Konkan Bahadoli?

I'm pretty sure you can't ship plants in to the US. Someone else can clarify more on this.

There is this jambolan tree where I live that's about 40 feet tall. It gives out the best jamoblan I have ever seen or eaten. What we get in the market are much smaller with less flesh.

That been said I got no clue about the variety. Still if you want the seeds I can send it to you once the fruits are ripe which may take a few months as the tree has just begun flowering.

I would love this.

You know if that one makes polyembryonic seeds?

No clue buddy, sorry.

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Is it possible to ship plants, or are we restricted to only seeds?

Also, can you obtain for me the varieties Ra-Jamun and Konkan Bahadoli?

I'm pretty sure you can't ship plants in to the US. Someone else can clarify more on this.

There is this jambolan tree where I live that's about 40 feet tall. It gives out the best jamoblan I have ever seen or eaten. What we get in the market are much smaller with less flesh.

That been said I got no clue about the variety. Still if you want the seeds I can send it to you once the fruits are ripe which may take a few months as the tree has just begun flowering.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: April 11, 2015, 03:28:17 AM »
Anyone know how to push the growth of Dragonfruit seedlings? I sprouted a few seeds and after its seed leaves appeared, it has not grown at all in about two to three weeks. Can seedlings take full sun, they are currently in partial sun and I was wondering if that is why they are growing so slowly. These seeds are very precious so I want to be extremely careful with them yet I also want to speed up their growth as fast as possible. Thanks in advance!
Simon

I had good results once I started fertilizing the new growth. Sounds crazy but i was fed up seeing them take ages to grow. They shot up ever since and have been growing well when compared to others I never fertilized in the past.

I have them in full sun but there were days initially when I put them in shade. Like 10 days full sun and 2-3 days shade just to cool them off and it seems to work.

I'm gonna plant them in the ground today. :)

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I grow them indoors. At least in that environment they're very tough. They're rather thirsty plants, so give them more than average root space. They're a bit brittle, so take care when moving them, although they regrow well from damage. They can be a bit prone to making leaf debris, especially if they feel they're not getting enough water, and they can be a bit "sprawly". Apart from those comments my experience with them has been quite good. Give them what they want and they'll reward you with plenty of fruit, and I've never had pest problems with them. They're in general hardy plants.
Outside my experience with them treated as an annual has definitely been extremely sprawly! They can take over abit as the taller branches fall over and the side shoots grow up and do the same
eventually a few plants take up alot of space!
We dont bother to keep a plant more than one season and just replace it after winter so I dont know how well they do or how long lived they are if not treated as an annual.
Im sure with pruning and in a pot this must be easier to maintain.
I dont love the fruit fresh though its good a weird sour very slightly vanilla tomato like taste but I dont eat loads fresh but some people love them fresh.
 I prefer it in a pie its really really good. Iv never made but a preserve could also be good I imagine.
The paper 'lanterns' and the waxy feel of the fruit when you peel them off I do like alot:)

Yes they are perennial plants-- keep fruiting for several years. Grow them like you would tomato or tomatillo plants. I put them inside a cage so that fruits stay off the ground and plants remain upright. Very hardy plants.
Cage to keep them off the ground and growing up is a very good idea!
Also reminds me that another good thing about these plants is the birds seem to leave them alone must be the paper husks they dont like:)
I tried to stake them once and ended up having stakes all over the place lol.
Next year I will try a cage like you suggest ;D

Thank you.

Glad to hear they are sturdy plants. I hope they take the climate well and fruit someday.

Here they are. :P


Sorry, not the best pic.

Now it's the delicate task of transplanting them in to soil.

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I planted few seeds using the tissue paper method and about 10% have germinated. It's summer and the temperature is around 100°F which gets me thinking this may not have been the best time to get them growing.

Anyways, now the ones that are growing, how tough are these plants? Any additional care they need? What size container would be best for them?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: March 28, 2015, 03:17:44 AM »
Happy to say the df I have in a pot has reached the top. :)

Do I cut the top off? I read this helps in horizontal growth.

And can I repot this cutting? The plant is about 7 months old.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help IDing a fruit
« on: February 15, 2015, 10:52:54 PM »
Could it be apple ber?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: UCCE Dragon Fruit Videos
« on: January 31, 2015, 01:28:02 AM »
Wow! Just what I was looking for. Very informative.
Thank you.

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This was in the news a lot last year. Sad thing is they are still unable to determine the exact cause for it. Since it does not happen to all kids I'm suspecting that it is from a particular area or crop.

Hope it doesn't happen this year. Lychee season is just 3 months away. :(

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone growing cinnamon?
« on: January 30, 2015, 03:17:51 AM »
I have a cinnamon tree since about 10 years now, it's approximately 50 feet. From my experience, it does not need much care from the very begining. Tolerated high temperatures, drought and yet grew wild. Not sure about cold tolerance.

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