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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: South Florida Abiu starting to Fruit !!!! FINALLY
« on: March 01, 2018, 05:11:44 PM »
Hi,

Yes, they live inside the forest with lots of humidity, and they exist in swampy places, especially in the Amazon.

Generally I use 200 g per year of potassium chloride so that all sapotaceas that I cultivate form fruits, the abiu can have flowers for several years without fruit formation.






Quote from: Vernmented on March 01, 2018, 12:29:38 PM
Quote from: nelesedulis on March 01, 2018, 10:12:28 AM
Vulcanic Brazil ???

They're good here for the simple fact of being native! They are born spontaneously in the forest, both Atlantic Forest and Ana Amazonian Forest

Have you seen these grow in wet/flooded areas?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: South Florida Abiu starting to Fruit !!!! FINALLY
« on: March 01, 2018, 10:12:28 AM »
Vulcanic Brazil ???

They're good here for the simple fact of being native! They are born spontaneously in the forest, both Atlantic Forest and Ana Amazonian Forest

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are Jaboticabas true to seed?
« on: March 01, 2018, 09:10:02 AM »
Hi

You will know here in Brazil vary a lot, they can have lots of sweets, big fruits, small, thick bark, thin bark, acidulated, maybe you have in your country seeds from the same matrices,

About RED Hybrid, they really do seem stable to me.

I would take care of some varieties of jabuticaba that bloom at the same time and can be planted together in the same orchard, maybe in the future this will generate a lot of random hybrids.

Many varieties of jabuticaba originated here in Brazil by geographic isolation, but by planting everything in an orchard there may be mixtures in my opinion.


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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Extremely rare seeds for sale: Dugetia Riedeliana, Again
« on: February 26, 2018, 07:35:10 AM »
Hi.

Duguetia riedeliana, seeds that I gave to friends in August of 2017, began their germination without any kind of chemical treatment. Dugetias are sometimes slow to germinate, secret is to be patient!


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: can you ID this big brazilian seeds?
« on: February 24, 2018, 10:11:59 AM »
Hi,

Terminalias both foreign and Brazilian, are slow to germinate, this almond here is born spontaneous, but planting without any treatment, they take about 120 days to germinate, you can break and plant the almond that exists inside the fruit, but it is possible that it rotted!

This amandoa has two varieties here, sweeter yellow fruits and more acidic red fruits and smaller fruits. You can use the pulp to make juice, it is a tall tree, 12 to 14 m, and it has aggressive roots!









Quote from: huertasurbanas on February 24, 2018, 08:43:06 AM

VEry thanks

would you give us some advice in how to sprout them?

Quote from: nelesedulis on February 24, 2018, 07:58:21 AM

Terminalia catappa


Quote from: huertasurbanas on February 23, 2018, 11:17:49 PM
Hi, a friend got some seeds from a person who came from Brazil and gave them to him... she said the seeds are red inside if you brake them:

5 cm diameter




and the person said that at Brazil they call it just "almond", amendoa

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: can you ID this big brazilian seeds?
« on: February 24, 2018, 07:58:21 AM »

Terminalia catappa


Quote from: huertasurbanas on February 23, 2018, 11:17:49 PM
Hi, a friend got some seeds from a person who came from Brazil and gave them to him... she said the seeds are red inside if you brake them:

5 cm diameter




and the person said that at Brazil they call it just "almond", amendoa

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Drip irrigation over, under or through the mulch?
« on: February 19, 2018, 04:38:03 PM »
Hello,

I'm riding an irrigation system here in southeastern Brazil, I have 1500 mm of rainfall a year, but my winter is dry, cold and windy, dehydrated plants, I want to use drip, which flow would you recommend me for each Score?

I'm seeing drippers of 4 and 10 liters per hour, is that enough?

I do not use mulchi because I have many snakes and they love to stay under the mulchi

Thank you!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Abiurana
« on: February 15, 2018, 05:24:46 PM »
For me it is difficult to evaluate the photo of the site, I was on an expedition and we found Pouteria Bullata, it has wavy leaves, well marked, brown flowers, rust color, the fruit darkens quickly, the pulp is a bit dry with large seed, a light taste of milk and sugar.

By the photo I think it is a Regular Pouteria Torta, but as I said, ABIURANA is a generic name here in Brazil, several pouterias we use this name, Guapeva, Guapeba, Bapeba, Bapeva ... all this generates doubts giant!

I'm just saying this to friend, do not buy one kind and get another!






Quote from: fruitlovers on February 15, 2018, 04:19:53 PM
Quote from: barath on February 15, 2018, 11:33:35 AM
Oh, interesting.  I am hoping for the Abiurana that is slightly more cold tolerant than Abiu, as described here:

http://www.bananasraras.org/frutasrarasingles/pouteria.htm

Is that what you have?
If Helton has it correctly labeled as bullata, then probably mine is different, as i think it is torta. But if Nelesedulis is correct, then bullata is not very good tasting, and the one i have is quite good. Don't know about its cold tolerance.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Abiurana
« on: February 14, 2018, 01:38:51 PM »
Hi

Which species are you looking for?

Abiurana is a generic name, many species for similar but very different fruits!






Quote from: barath on February 14, 2018, 12:19:46 PM
Reviving this old thread, is anyone still growing abiurana or does anyone know of a source of seeds?  Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Campomanesia schlechtendaliana
« on: February 13, 2018, 08:46:39 PM »
Hi

Another species that has bigger fruits and very good is the Campomanesia Laurifolia, I think the fruit is about 4 cm in diameter or larger, but it takes a lot to fruition, the flavor is sweet and refreshing. Already a common tree in my region today is more rare.

Pallilo is also very good for making juice and eating, there are other good Gabirobas (Campomanesia for you foreigners), but many are without identification and there is a huge variability among the species, huge variation between the sizes of trees and fruits, existing trees from 10 m to 40 cm shrubs. I usually pretend that gabiroba is the fruit of a child from the countryside, when we are children we love gabirobas and jabuticabas, then we grow into adults and few people without them.


Quote from: huertasurbanas on February 13, 2018, 07:48:06 PM
Quote from: palologrower on February 13, 2018, 12:00:47 AM
Quote from: huertasurbanas on February 12, 2018, 07:39:14 PM
Hi, congrats!!! Campomanesia is one if my favourites genous. The leaves are similar to c. lineatifolia, chamba, and the fruit obviously is similar to many campomanesias, but it remembers me sete capotes specially, c. guazumifolia. This last one tastes like an orange but with sand apple texture to me, and when it is overripe it tastes like jaboticaba. But, yes, you can say it tastes a bit like pear, very nice.

I dont have schlechtendaliana, is it too tropical? I grow guazumifolia, lineatifolia and xanthocarpa.




It is growing well here in Hawaii.

I notice it  gets tastier if I let it get soft on table.  Much better than i expected.  Wish it was bigger fruit!

Yes, there are bigger campomanesia fruits, chamba is one of those



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee grafted onto Longan?
« on: February 11, 2018, 06:42:20 PM »
Hi,

Great experience.

I would like information and the reverse is possible?

I have adult lychee trees, but eventually, they suffer attack from the erinose mite, I wanted to use the adult and strong lychee trees to graft longans is this possible?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bignay: flowering and fruiting
« on: February 07, 2018, 07:04:27 AM »

Hello Oscar,

I have some trees loaded with immature fruits now, a doubt how to consume?

They are a little sour, but I like the taste, they remind me of the taste of Gondo, the problem is that the trees are planted near other delicacies here like longans and cambuca, so even if I strive to eat the bignay, the eyes always they are to another side!

I think about making a kind of wine or jelly with and are they possible?









Quote from: fruitlovers on February 07, 2018, 05:44:44 AM
Have fruiting trees. They usually fruit in summer. The fruiting time is rather short, a few weeks, but can have second flowering season. The viability of fruits is very short, even in the fridge. I've never found the flowers to smell bad, but haven't tried smelling them close up. It's better to have more than one tree, especially inside a greenhouse.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Marimari aka cassia leiandra
« on: February 06, 2018, 11:20:17 AM »
Hi

I wonder if you are talking about the same Amazonian Marimari, I believe that they are talking about some species of Acacia, many people confuse the species, even in the Amazon it is rare that you find the correct source of this specie

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: RARE JABUTICABA BRANCA VINHO GIGANTE DA ESALQ - very limited quantities
« on: February 04, 2018, 08:08:50 AM »
Hi

This idea generates conflict of ideas, I do not think we need to send seeds abroad to maintain our biodiversity, we ourselves have competence for this and we are already doing it here in Brazil. I agree to send as a business, just to publicize, disclose the species ultimately helps preserve. As foreigners speak, we Brazilians are destroying the world, as if they had not cleared their forests before us!

Unfortunately deforestation exists worldwide, is a disease, this in Brazil, the rest of the Amazon, Asia, Africa, etc., I would like to know if you in Vietnam are sending seeds of its great biodiversity, for us Brazilians preserve? While your forest turns to immense coffee plantations in Conilon? I've never heard anything about Vietnamite seeds being donated or sold to maintain biodiversity.

Seeds and tropical plants are a profitable business, they are sources of medicines, food, phytotherapics, woods, etc. I do not believe in these good intentions of preservation, but as I said at the beginning, it's just my opinion and no reason for conflict!

I will stop the posts so as not to mess up the page of the seller, which in advance I apologize for posting on your page!

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: RARE JABUTICABA BRANCA VINHO GIGANTE DA ESALQ - very limited quantities
« on: February 04, 2018, 07:38:31 AM »
Quote from: Tropical Fruit Bonsai on February 04, 2018, 06:38:11 AM
What a mess the Brasilin post!!!

By the way, I neither receive any answer from Dreamfrutas about my seeds!

Is he still alive here?

Thanks

Giampaolo


Quote from: nelesedulis on February 04, 2018, 06:33:59 AM
Hi

Good question about the date of the post.

Brazilian post offices have been terribly slow and confused since November, they are implementing new systems and working with a small staff of staff.

Even internal orders that took two useful, to be delivered are taking up to five days.

So the ideal is to follow the tracking and see how they are following the packages.




Giampaolo and Sytanta

I'm not saying anything about the seller, I'm just saying that since November the post office in Brazil is undergoing a series of operational and structural changes, frankly, I do not believe it improves anything, today Brazil is impregnated with idiot political ideologies, both left and right, in fact with the growing nationalism that we are seeing here, I even fear that in the near future, they will not even let seeds of the country leave, the famous policies of national security, protection of biodiversity and other crap .. .


Quote from: achetadomestica on February 03, 2018, 09:11:49 PM
Quote from: Aaron on February 03, 2018, 04:38:56 PM
anybody else receive seeds yet?
When did you order?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: RARE JABUTICABA BRANCA VINHO GIGANTE DA ESALQ - very limited quantities
« on: February 04, 2018, 06:33:59 AM »
Hi

Good question about the date of the post.

Brazilian post offices have been terribly slow and confused since November, they are implementing new systems and working with a small staff of staff.

Even internal orders that took two useful, to be delivered are taking up to five days.

So the ideal is to follow the tracking and see how they are following the packages.







Quote from: achetadomestica on February 03, 2018, 09:11:49 PM
Quote from: Aaron on February 03, 2018, 04:38:56 PM
anybody else receive seeds yet?
When did you order?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: New Seeds: Plinia Peruviana, Ultra Rare Wild Jabuticaba
« on: January 25, 2018, 05:45:54 AM »
Hello kar1ma3

Usually when you give the wrong address to the sender, mail is not usually received.

Evidence follows that their seeds were sent and returned to Brazil by incorrect mailing.

I live in a distant region with precarious internet access, my radio reception equipment was damaged by lightning on Christmas night, I stayed almost 30 days without internet, but I told you before about what to do with the seeds.

I am willing to resend you new species, please solve this via pm!

Attached are photos of your envelope, AWB, and labels confirming incorrect mailing

Alexandre

Quote from: kar1ma3 on January 25, 2018, 03:50:49 AM
Ultra rare seeds that you will never receive??   :D
I have never received mine from him in the past  :'(
Lost over $100 and he stopped responding  8)


















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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: E. patrisii - what's the scoop?
« on: January 24, 2018, 07:09:17 AM »
Hello Freinds.

Just updating the post about Eugenia Patrisii, I now have lots of fruits, and I made a delicious jelly with my Ubaias, the two varieties have now fruited.

Alexandre









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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: New Seeds: Plinia Peruviana, Ultra Rare Wild Jabuticaba
« on: January 23, 2018, 03:31:16 PM »

Hello Friends.

Young seedlings, (Plinia Peruviana) as we are in summer in Brazil, high temperature and humidity germination is brutally fast!

Very beautiful leaves.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: New seeds avalliables:Eugenia Itaguahiensis-Dwarf Grumixama.
« on: January 22, 2018, 05:27:13 PM »
Hello Ondrej

Beautiful seedlings, I hope they grow well there in their orchard, Eugenia Sp, is an excellent fruit, very good flavor, better than Cereja do Rio Grande in my opinion.

About Spondia, I planted a seed from the lot I sent you and it germinated in early January.

Spondias take up to 1 year to germinate, you can speed up this germination by placing the seed in a zip lock bag with moist moss and storing it inside a closed box, they will germinate much more quickly.

I wish success to your plants, then let me know how the other buyers left with the seeds

Thanks.

Alexandre






Quote from: ondrej on January 22, 2018, 05:37:05 AM
Seeds from the group order:
Eugenias of Alexander's seeds are already growing.  :)
Spondias dulcis does not germinate yet.
Myrciarias I did not buy.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plinia Peruviana, Rare species of Wild Plinia the State of Rio de Janeiro Brazil
« on: January 05, 2018, 07:28:24 PM »
Hello oscar

Between 2.4 and 3 cm, I think if you cultivate the species, there may be an increase in the amount of pulp. The taste is very good, can be a good species for cultivation.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plinia Peruviana, Rare species of Wild Plinia the State of Rio de Janeiro Brazil
« on: January 04, 2018, 07:43:48 PM »
Yes Sytanta,the fruit is very beautiful and has great flavor, I will try to cultivate to verify if the qualities of the fruit improve.

Soon I must confirm the ID of another 2 or 3 types of wild Plinias !,

Work goes on!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Plinia Peruviana, Rare species of Wild Plinia the State of Rio de Janeiro Brazil
« on: January 04, 2018, 03:56:16 PM »
Hello everyone.

Beginning the year with the presentation of a very rare wild plinia of Brazil. Plinia Peruviana, fruits collected at an altitude of 700 m, purple fruits, sides, with creases in the bark that remind me of the cambuca, caulifloros, lightly beige pulp, very sweet, containing one or two seeds inside, similar to regular jabuticabas.

I am dedicating myself to the collection of wild species of plinias and myrciarias, the intention is to preserve these species and verify the conditions of cultivation.

Alexandre.

















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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting persimmon question.
« on: January 04, 2018, 03:43:05 PM »
Hi

Yes, they can ship by Jadlog or another carrier, there are many nurseries that have these varieties and already grafted.

I only cultivate Rama Forte, the others I did not invest in seedlings.

Boa sorte!






Quote from: 9B in Brazil on January 04, 2018, 03:39:18 PM
I'll give it a try.  Thanks Alexandre for the lead in SP.  Do they do mail orders to send to Santa Catarina?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting persimmon question.
« on: January 04, 2018, 03:07:57 PM »
Hello,

I suggest you look for nurseries in São Paulo, they have many varieties of persimmon.

Look with Edilson Giacon from Viveiro Cipreste.








Quote from: 9B in Brazil on January 04, 2018, 02:54:17 PM
If nobody has tried this, I will give it a shot and see if it works.  Does anyone know where I can get scions of good cultivars of persimmons?

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