Author Topic: Pedalai looks like a giant rambutan (Read 35480 times)

FloridaGreenMan · « **Reply #25 on:** April 10, 2013, 09:34:45 PM »

Luc
My seedling is deeply lobed as you mentioned but they eventually turn into the shape you see in the Keys photo. The photo below shows a mature fruiting tree in Puerto Rico that has the same leaf shape as the Keys tree....

Oscar
What can you share about this?

fruitlovers · « **Reply #26 on:** April 10, 2013, 10:32:38 PM »

Quote from: Mike T on April 10, 2013, 06:08:31 PM

Good question and I just don't know but I was presuming 5 years from seed.Many farmers plant tropicals out just before the rainy season after being planted the rainy season before.It could have been 6.

Very few people would direct seed this king of plant. Usually they wait 1-2 years in pot. So that 5 year old is probably more like 6-7 years old. Keep in mind that 6-7 years old there in northern Queensland is probably about equal to 10 years here and 15 to 20 in Florida.

DurianLover · « **Reply #27 on:** April 10, 2013, 11:53:37 PM »

I have a question to Luc and Oscar. What was growth rates on your pedalai? I had my grown about 1.5 feet in 5 months. Than I replanted in a pot and moved to a different location. Something went horribly wrong. After replanting those 5 month old plants, they were exposed to full sun for about 3 hours each day and I think I had to much compost in a pot. Look at the picture taken when they were 1.5 years old. Basically they only grew couple inches in one year, leaves look unhealthy. Seems like they were struggling to survive. Looks like they are going to make, but I think party of my pedalai younger brothers are going to overtake them eventually.

fruitlovers · « **Reply #28 on:** April 11, 2013, 01:44:08 AM »

The pedalai grows pretty fast when young. It sounds like you moved them into too much sun. They like filtered sunlight till they are 3-4 feet tall.

luc · « **Reply #29 on:** April 11, 2013, 11:15:48 AM »

Quote from: fruitlovers on April 11, 2013, 01:44:08 AM

The pedalai grows pretty fast when young. It sounds like you moved them into too much sun. They like filtered sunlight till they are 3-4 feet tall.

Same observation here , my 4 to 5 year old is only a little over 2 meters now , grows in filtered sun . I won't be holding my breath for another 10 years then .....

FloridaGreenMan · « **Reply #30 on:** April 11, 2013, 08:09:01 PM »

Luc
My Pedelai is almost 2 meters tall and is only 2 years old! Maybe you have a slow grower!

luc · « **Reply #31 on:** April 11, 2013, 08:22:16 PM »

Quote from: FloridaGreenMan on April 11, 2013, 08:09:01 PM

Luc
My Pedelai is almost 2 meters tall and is only 2 years old! Maybe you have a slow grower!

Everything is slower here Greenman , this is Mexico ....let's compare how thick the trunk is ( no cheating OK ) I'll measure tomorrow.....

FloridaGreenMan · « **Reply #32 on:** April 11, 2013, 08:42:23 PM »

Luc
My trunk is 1.5 inches wide (38mm) and 3 inches (76mm) in circumference. This is the widest point at the bottom of the trunk
FGM

luc · « **Reply #33 on:** April 12, 2013, 07:06:43 PM »

Quote from: FloridaGreenMan on April 11, 2013, 08:42:23 PM

Luc
My trunk is 1.5 inches wide (38mm) and 3 inches (76mm) in circumference. This is the widest point at the bottom of the trunk
FGM

OK , back from the orchard ...here's the pic . trunk is 11 cm wide lowest point and tree is close to 4 meters , doing OK .

Jackfruitwhisperer69 · « **Reply #34 on:** April 12, 2013, 07:38:04 PM »

Hi MIke,
Pedalai looks like marang crossed with rambutan

Truly weird and awesome looking Artocarpus sp.

Thanks for sharing

FloridaGreenMan · « **Reply #35 on:** April 12, 2013, 07:45:16 PM »

Quote from: luc on April 12, 2013, 07:06:43 PM

Quote from: FloridaGreenMan on April 11, 2013, 08:42:23 PM
Luc
My trunk is 1.5 inches wide (38mm) and 3 inches (76mm) in circumference. This is the widest point at the bottom of the trunk
FGM

OK , back from the orchard ...here's the pic . trunk is 11 cm wide lowest point and tree is close to 4 meters , doing OK .

You have a bigger tree for sure. Did I mess up my metrics?

luc · « **Reply #36 on:** April 12, 2013, 09:28:47 PM »

Quote from: FloridaGreenMan on April 12, 2013, 07:45:16 PM

Quote from: luc on April 12, 2013, 07:06:43 PM
Quote from: FloridaGreenMan on April 11, 2013, 08:42:23 PM
Luc
My trunk is 1.5 inches wide (38mm) and 3 inches (76mm) in circumference. This is the widest point at the bottom of the trunk
FGM

OK , back from the orchard ...here's the pic . trunk is 11 cm wide lowest point and tree is close to 4 meters , doing OK .

You have a bigger tree for sure. Did I mess up my metrics?

Your metrics are correct FMG , I usually do not pay a lot of attention to trees that will take forever to fruit , so this was a nice surprise for me . Can I take a few years of fruiting time now....

DurianLover · « **Reply #37 on:** May 05, 2013, 01:53:29 PM »

DurianLover · « **Reply #38 on:** December 07, 2013, 06:30:54 AM »

Ethan · « **Reply #39 on:** December 07, 2013, 11:16:23 AM »

Congrats DL, it is amazing what growing in the right environment does for these beauties. The ones I've seen were huge trees, I would guess around 20' foot spacing between them?

Good luck!

AnnonAddict · « **Reply #40 on:** December 07, 2013, 11:18:47 AM »

Pedalai is such a cool fruit, does anyone know where to get a plant or seeds that can be shipped to california?

Ethan · « **Reply #41 on:** December 07, 2013, 01:11:44 PM »

I forgot to mention, the ones I saw were planted much closer than 20' and still grew very well and fruited.

DurianLover · « **Reply #42 on:** December 07, 2013, 04:03:47 PM »

Thanks Ethan. I kept my mouth shut, but honestly I highly doubted from the getgo that you guys actually had Pedalai on your PR trip. Look at real pedalai picture and what you actually had. I'm guessing Ian mislabeled, and it is really A. tamaran. Another indication is that Pedalai suppose to be superior to Marang, and many of you preferred Marang over "Pedalai"

http://s23.photobucket.com/user/ohiojay/media/Puerto%20Rico%202013/Ian%20Crown%20Panoramic%20Fruit/151.jpg.html?sort=2&o=61
http://www.rarepalmseeds.com/pix/ArtTam.shtml

Real thing:

fruitlovers · « **Reply #43 on:** December 07, 2013, 04:24:56 PM »

Quote from: Ethan on December 07, 2013, 01:11:44 PM

I forgot to mention, the ones I saw were planted much closer than 20' and still grew very well and fruited.

They might fruit very well but at that spacing will be very soon shading each other out. Very minimum spacing for these giant trees is 35 feet tall. They are absolutely massive, especially when planted in the tropics.

Ethan · « **Reply #44 on:** December 07, 2013, 05:35:27 PM »

Thanks DL for the info, I believe it was the first or second year it fruited, could that make a difference? Either way it was good fruit, just marang was better at that moment. Hmmmm, if it wasn't pedalai then that gets put back on the bucket list!

Oscar, Ian's trees were maybe 20' but still in their 'teenage' years, the ones at Felipe's had been there much longer with trunks that might have been 6' across??? and still probably not fully mature. Felipe's second one had A. elsticus growing maybe 10' away, both getting huge.

Cant wait to see an open photo of that fruit!

fruitlovers · « **Reply #45 on:** December 07, 2013, 06:48:40 PM »

Quote from: Ethan on December 07, 2013, 05:35:27 PM

Thanks DL for the info, I believe it was the first or second year it fruited, could that make a difference? Either way it was good fruit, just marang was better at that moment. Hmmmm, if it wasn't pedalai then that gets put back on the bucket list!

Oscar, Ian's trees were maybe 20' but still in their 'teenage' years, the ones at Felipe's had been there much longer with trunks that might have been 6' across??? and still probably not fully mature. Felipe's second one had A. elsticus growing maybe 10' away, both getting huge.

Cant wait to see an open photo of that fruit!

Ethan, pedalai gets easily 150 feet tall and 50 feet across when fully grown.

davidgarcia899 · « **Reply #46 on:** December 07, 2013, 06:51:30 PM »

Ethan did you get your pedalai from the same source as FGM?

fruitlovers · « **Reply #47 on:** December 07, 2013, 07:00:39 PM »

Quote from: DurianLover on December 07, 2013, 04:03:47 PM

Thanks Ethan. I kept my mouth shut, but honestly I highly doubted from the getgo that you guys actually had Pedalai on your PR trip. Look at real pedalai picture and what you actually had. I'm guessing Ian mislabeled, and it is really A. tamaran. Another indication is that Pedalai suppose to be superior to Marang, and many of you preferred Marang over "Pedalai"

Real thing:

It's possible they are both pedalai. Seems like there is quite a bit of variation in this fruit, judging from photos Mike T previously posed in another thread and what we have here marked as pedalai.

Ethan · « **Reply #48 on:** December 08, 2013, 01:35:50 AM »

Quote from: davidgarcia899 on December 07, 2013, 06:51:30 PM

Ethan did you get your pedalai from the same source as FGM?

I believe so.

DurianLover · « **Reply #49 on:** January 30, 2015, 09:30:06 AM »

According to Australian artocarpus guide, pedalai is fastest growing artocarpus, 2 meters a year. It did exactly that. Planted one year ago, at about 6 feet height with just 2 leaves at the top after wind stripped the the rest from lower trunk. Remarkable growth spur.
Marangs for example much slower. About 5 feet after 2 years. I don't think, I will hit a predicted target of fruiting within 5 years with marang.

This is a tree of more advanced stage, growing wild, by the roadside.

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