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It's clear that deciduous and evergreen do and do not go dormant.  But what terminology describes species that replace their leaves annually versus others that seem to keep their leaves forever?  I have mangos with leaves still there at the base of a 4" dia. trunk tthat were there when the plant was 1 foot tall!  Grumichama also seems to keep all leaves forever.  But avocados clearly replace all their leaves annually.  What do we call these two types of plants?  Keepers and replacers?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Pollinator affect fruit?
« on: April 22, 2023, 03:00:41 PM »
I'm aware that when a flower is pollinated, the pollen genes impact the seed/seedling/progeny in most species.  But do the pollen genes inpact the fruit itself that grows out of the pollinated flower on the mother tree?  I thought that the pollen genes do not impact the fruit on the mother tree, on most or all species.

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I want to extend the fruiting season of my Sugar Apple (Annona Squamosa). If A.) I pick off half of the early flowers, or B.) I neglect to hand pollinate them, will it produce more late flowers/fruits?  I have a couple of late fruits and I want more fruits to be late fruits.  Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Sugar apple flowering/harvest period
« on: August 29, 2020, 08:39:15 PM »
Our Sugar Apple (Annona squamosa) fruit ripening was over after three weeks this year, 32 fruits on one tree, all delicious.  They split if left on tree but ripen with no problems, whether harvested before or after split.  We hand-pollinated these, as many as possible.  Does anyone's experience suggest removing some flowers would extend flowering/harvest period?  Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / root rot strategy
« on: July 30, 2020, 08:17:14 PM »
We have a planting spot in which four young trees (1 Mamey Sapote, 2 Canistels, 1 Jamaica Cherry), planted there successively, died from root rot within a year.  So we replaced the soil there and planted a young Rollinia.  We think we should do more and remove a gallon volume of soil around the root crown for a couple of weeks, so it can dry out real good, then add it back in, twice a year for a few years.  Does anyone's experience suggest that this strategy could be helpful?

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We agree avocados can be picked any time after reaching mature size. Anyone's experience indicate any difference in flavor/quality when picked right after mature size, versus being picked right before falling from tree?

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I'm seeing persistent yellow of all leaves on one of two young jackfruit plants, and same thing with acerola plants.  The one jackfruit and the one acerola with the yellow leaves may have roots of large oak trees strangling their roots.  When the soil dries around their trunks, it is very hard, and I'm mostly sure this is due to a very dense root mass surrounding the trunk.  I cut the soil vertically down one foot with a saw in a diameter of 1.5 feet around the trees to sever the trunks of this possible oak root mass, and two weeks later I don't see any changes in the plants with yellow leaves.  Other plants have had root rot in this area of the yard but the root rot symptoms are immediate death, not persistently yellow leaves.  Has anyone seen this symptom? 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / cover crops: chop when live or dead?
« on: April 16, 2020, 10:38:26 AM »
Permaculture practice in a food forest allows wild plants to grow, then we cut them so leaves/stems become mulch on top and roots become compost under ground.  We have lots of wild annuals that we ask if it's better to cut them while green or just let them mature/die.  Hay is more nutrition as animal feed than straw, so we assume cutting green is better but can we have the nutrition breakdown gathered by the great scientific/industrial machine in the sky?  It may be that when plants mature/die, the nutrition elements are drawn back down into the roots.  We suspect that only nitrogen is lost to the atmosphere.  So what are the answers?  This informs our choice of when to cut these plants.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / muscadine grape pruning
« on: April 11, 2020, 09:03:12 PM »
I want to extend the length of my muscadine grape cordons, the main vines that extend horizonally.  How do I choose between two options:1) a larger, longer new shoot some 16" - 20" before the end of the current cordon, or a smaller, shorter new shoot some 2" - 3" before the end of the current cordon?  Seems both choices have trade-offs so I imagine maybe whichever one gives the longest total length at mid-season?  This question arises every time we want to extend our cordon length, so it's important.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Nets for protecting guava from fruit fly
« on: April 05, 2020, 07:46:32 PM »
Any recommendations for nets to cover red cattley guava trees to protect from fruit fly? Assuming carribean fruit fly but have not actually seen flies.  Larvae look like fruit fly. Eggs are laid when fruits are green, and fruit is ruined before full ripening.  All fruits are ruined, every year.  Bonning suggested pruning in fall, forcing winter fruiting, but winters too cold apparently for fruit to develop.  Too many fruits to bag.  Must use net.  Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / mango graft flowers and won't leaf
« on: February 19, 2020, 11:16:45 AM »
My grafted Nam Doc Mai mango I planted May 2018 from 1 gallon pot is only 10 inches tall and both winters flowered big, but it doesn't want to leaf out.  It's healthy obviously to flower like that.  So are there defective scions sometimes that will never grow vegetatively and only want to flower?  Do I need to replace this tree?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Rollinia bark disease
« on: October 06, 2019, 07:56:24 PM »
I've had two rollinia trees and both died from a bark problem.  There isn't a visible fungus on the surface, but rather the bark eventually erodes away to reveal a 1/8 inch deep hollowed area.  No evidence of insect activity so it's probably a fungus.  Strange that something is attacking under what looks like a healthy bark outer skin.  It seems to occur on the side of the trunk that gets the most sun, but they didn't get full sun, rather only a few hours per day.  The trees grow and fruit vigorously here.  No problems except for this disease.  Ever seen this anyone?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Pruning White Sapote
« on: August 30, 2019, 07:31:09 PM »
I have a young White Sapote seedling in the ground and expect another year or more before first flowering.  It's about 15 ft tall already (trunk diameter 5 inches), and it wants to grow even taller, but I've been topping it at 15 ft because I want to limit height for fruit harvesting.  Is limiting height with regular toppings going to delay/deny flowering?  An alternative is to let it grow as tall as it wants, so to reach flowering/fruiting size faster, and then cut it back to 15ft.  Which strategy is best?

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After harvesting the fruit, how much nutrients return from the dying banana stalk back to the root mat to benefit the next generation?  Has anyone done a comparison where one grove gets all its stalks cut and another where the stalks are left uncut?  If enough nutrients return to be stored in the root mat, this can save us some labor, and perhaps less exposure of roots to disease, and perhaps less evaporative loss of nutrients too?  Does it all add up to a net benefit to leave stalks uncut?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / rollinia seedling special needs
« on: December 29, 2018, 11:52:51 PM »
I have rollinia seedlings 6 to 10 inches long, in 2 inch pots that are struggling.  Defoliating.  Temperature range is 60 to 75F, humidity range is probably 50% to 70%.  Adequate sunlight, not too much.  Regular potting soil.  What is it that these plants need?

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The small yellow mangos common in US groceries I thought were Ataulfo (or Carabao, Philippine, Manila, Honey).  This variety is supposed to be polyembryonic.  Inside the seed is one large embryo that germinates into one plant, which seems to indicate it's monoembryonic.  Is it possible that this can be polyembryonic?  Or is the grocery mango actually another monoembryonic variety?  I hope to sprout a clone of the tree that produces the grocery mangos.  Any experience with these?  Thanks.

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