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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade => Topic started by: sreekumar menon on March 22, 2018, 10:54:23 AM

Title: Tropical persimmon
Post by: sreekumar menon on March 22, 2018, 10:54:23 AM
Any one grow tropical persimmon ?
Title: Re: Tropical persimmon
Post by: ggpalms on March 22, 2018, 03:40:33 PM
I know of a variety called Triumph and also South Florida. I have not seen Triumph for many years and S Florida is available wholesale from Zill in WPB. Good Luck.
Title: Re: Tropical persimmon
Post by: alfian1 on March 22, 2018, 10:30:07 PM
I am growing from seed from europe, china and USA but no sprouted. But I am growing too from fresh fruit from South Korea, Spain and New Zealand. From Spain and New Zealand are seedless but from South Korea some had sprout.

I am growing them in lowland ultra tropical in equator. So they grow not suitable for my climate. But some peach and some plum had grow vigorously even beat some my tropical fruit. The peach had flower 2/3 year from seeds.

I am growing too some local variety that had seedless and astringent. They grow not suitable too for my climate. They never tall, always regrow from rootsucker.

That's my experience grow persimmon in equator. My dream is to hybrid them with black sapote, ebony and mabolo velver.

Title: Re: Tropical persimmon
Post by: Cookie Monster on March 22, 2018, 10:36:33 PM
Didn't know persimmon were called tropical. They thrive in temperate regions as well as some sub-tropical areas, but I haven't known them to perform well in tropical climates.
Title: Re: Tropical persimmon
Post by: alfian1 on March 22, 2018, 11:13:55 PM
In altitude 1500 above they grow well. Some big tree can produce 100 - 200 kg but they are astringent variety and ugly in appearance. So they can not beat persimmon from temperate and subtropical if sale in fresh form. And in my country the variety is old because they came from colonialism era.

Maybe the persimmon like lychee, need only 200 chill hours...
Title: Re: Tropical persimmon
Post by: starch on March 23, 2018, 10:09:07 AM

Maybe the persimmon like lychee, need only 200 chill hours...

I agree with this one. My chill hours vary greatly from year to year (200 to 650 hours, avg. 400 hours) and even in the low chill hour years my persimmon tree (which is grafted with a bunch of different varieties) always flowers.
Title: Re: Tropical persimmon
Post by: johnb51 on March 24, 2018, 04:40:15 PM
I know of a variety called Triumph and also South Florida. I have not seen Triumph for many years and S Florida is available wholesale from Zill in WPB. Good Luck.
I bought my Triumph from you six years ago when you were at Yellow Green Market in Hollywood.  It's remained a small tree, but I like the fruit.  The fruit is larger and better than South Florida, which bears heavily.  I'd love to plant Winterset also.
Title: Re: Tropical persimmon
Post by: ggpalms on March 26, 2018, 02:18:08 PM
Hi John, Happy to hear your triumph is doing good. I managed to pick up a small S Florida Persimmon a few days ago. I might need to swap som scions, let me know take care.

Title: Re: Tropical persimmon
Post by: SunshineState on December 24, 2019, 11:51:08 AM
Anyone know if Zills Tropical persimmon is the same as their South Florida persimmon variety?
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