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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dwarf papaya experiment
« on: March 27, 2021, 08:19:28 PM »
This may help. East West Seed Company in Philippines have excellent Dwarf varieties of Papayas.
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That is exactly what I was saying since this blog ID came up on February 20th. I was the first one to reply this the same day! Thanks for supporting my view the next day February 21st and after19 hours of my posting. Since I have personally seen both of them and knew these plant's taxonomy and uses for more than 7 decades I was only differentiating the confusing names of the two :MALABAR CHESTNUT VS MALABAR NUT. Any part of the Malabar Nut aka 'adasoge' is not edible nor consumed but only used in local Ayurvedic and Unani medicine. The confusing so called 'Malabar Chestnut' is a misnomer as the plant was brought by the Colonials probably after the 18th century.http://tropical.theferns.info/viewtropical.php?id=Justicia+adhatodaI also have one flower look like is one
At least by what I was told supposedly not edible
And the seeds look like is picture and only get a few seeds maybe six or seven per pod
Hopefully somebody might know better though
Last update for now
Malabar chestnut leaves
Seedling malabar chestnut
The leaves are the one that supposed to be not edible are
I think you are confusing with the leaves of another plant Justice adhatoda aka Malabar nut. In the Western South Deccan it is called 'adasoge' and the leaves are used for medicinal purposes of chest ailments. It is grown wild on mud fences and empty land and the leaves are rarely eaten by the cattle as they are very bitter. I have seen hundreds of them with white flowers but never seen those so called 'Malabar nuts' on them!
Malabar chestnut is a different plant indigenous to Northern part of tropical South America and rarely seen and known in the Indian continent. I was lucky enough to see one plant with those fruits and leaves seen as above and never seen the flowers. Never eaten it and was told it is poisonous to humans! East India Company sent many workers to Guyana plantations from India. Most of them from UP and Bihar Hindi speaking belt and few from Telugu and Tamil speaking workers from the then Madras Presidency. None from Malabar or Mysore. The name Malabar chestnut probably was mistakenly coined by the Colonial Brits in the 19th century and probably brought to India by one of the Colonials. I do not remember reading about this plant documentation in Dutch Governor Von Rheede's (late 1600s) Hortus Malabaricus pictorial volumes.
Justicia adhatoda the whole tree doesn't look similar to the one I have . Justicia adhatoda
Has a simple leaf and flower structure completely different
I got flowers and nuts off of my tree so I know it's a specie of money tree / pachira
I also have one flower look like is one
At least by what I was told supposedly not edible
And the seeds look like is picture and only get a few seeds maybe six or seven per pod
Hopefully somebody might know better though
Last update for now
Malabar chestnut leaves
Seedling malabar chestnut
The leaves are the one that supposed to be not edible are
I think you are confusing with the leaves of another plant Justice adhatoda aka Malabar nut. In the Western South Deccan it is called 'adasoge' and the leaves are used for medicinal purposes of chest ailments. It is grown wild on mud fences and empty land and the leaves are rarely eaten by the cattle as they are very bitter. I have seen hundreds of them with white flowers but never seen those so called 'Malabar nuts' on them!
Malabar chestnut is a different plant indigenous to Northern part of tropical South America and rarely seen and known in the Indian continent. I was lucky enough to see one plant with those fruits and leaves seen as above and never seen the flowers. Never eaten it and was told it is poisonous to humans! East India Company sent many workers to Guyana plantations from India. Most of them from UP and Bihar Hindi speaking belt and few from Telugu and Tamil speaking workers from the then Madras Presidency. None from Malabar or Mysore. The name Malabar chestnut probably was mistakenly coined by the Colonial Brits in the 19th century and probably brought to India by one of the Colonials. I do not remember reading about this plant documentation in Dutch Governor Von Rheede's (late 1600s) Hortus Malabaricus pictorial volumes.
am i in the right place? or it needs to move to different area like Unread PostsTemperate Fruit & Orchards.I believe so. Cherries need minimum 1000 hrs of chilling.
This is my cotton candy mango tree in Scottsdale, AZ. Been in ground 3 full years. I have not let it bloom, as it was not that large when I purchased it. Is it large enough to let it fruit this year, or wait?Your neighbor's sugarcanes are doing well enough to say that you so shouldn't have problem with growing a mango tree.
Few days ago over the phone I got this information from my 89 years old elder brother who cultivates few hundred coconut trees in his Estate.Look into coconut mites. They affect young nuts and live under the perianth where the damge appears to begin in your photo. Maybe improve nutritional status and remove all flowers for a while to remove habitat. Check neighboring coconut trees and compare.Agree. Eriophyid mite (Aceria guerreromis ). That brownish halo at the edge of the perianth an button. Ceamy white mite is so small you need a magnifying lens to see it. The husks develop cuts and cracks. You could ask State's Agricultural Department for solving this problem and remedy in your zone.
Look into coconut mites. They affect young nuts and live under the perianth where the damge appears to begin in your photo. Maybe improve nutritional status and remove all flowers for a while to remove habitat. Check neighboring coconut trees and compare.Agree. Eriophyid mite (Aceria guerreromis ). That brownish halo at the edge of the perianth an button. Ceamy white mite is so small you need a magnifying lens to see it. The husks develop cuts and cracks. You could ask State's Agricultural Department for solving this problem and remedy in your zone.
If you do not want to post the details of the transaction here, please send me a PM.So what? By now 'that' person may have already duped many or may be innocent. In this forum it is easy for any person to easily enroll a new membership under a new pen name!
I prefer to know who these members are so I can delete them.
Probably waiting till the Sun at mid noon is right above the head over the water falls at Dulhunty River, Cape York, Down Under or International airport at Lima Peru, South America! Lets be patient.No moderators around?
Asleep at the wheel, but so far no personal attacks fortunately.
Due to Covid-19 I was unable to visit ICAR Horticulture center in Karnataka, India this year. They have released two varieties as 'RED'. I commented on this before as they have 'RED' varieties of Jackfruits in India. After viewing Mike T's comment I requested the head of ICAR who sent me few photographs taken by a professional photographer WITHOUT using any filters. I replied that they look deep orange to me. They were from seedlings of Malaysian / Singapore 'RED' variety.Closer to red but no cigar still. While orange are usually better some of the best are still yellow like J33, J31,J36 and a few others. I wonder if India has quality lines that haven't been circulated yet unlike Malaysia which most people think has the best..
India has hundreds of varieties .There must be some good ones amongst them
If that isn't an amber I will eat my hat.As Mike T says, there are no known 'red' jackfruits. Period.
You are right. I missed that part of the scenario being outside in zone 9. Thanks.Looks more like Myristica fragrance (nutmeg) seedling than an Artocarpus.The OP said that it was outside in 9a temps for a year, so if it was nutmeg, it would have died.
If anyone knows of any land with tropical/exotic/rare fruit trees already on it for sale, please let me know. Anywhere in the world. 2-20 acres.Should be on the 'Trade, Buy and Sell' section. Move this there.
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