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Is this edible???
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did u eat it?  how do you know it's edible?
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did u eat it?  how do you know it's edible?
I didn't eat the fruit.
I don't know it is edible or not.
The only way to know whether the fruit is edible or not is by observe whether the bird/monkey like to eat those fruit.
If the bird/monkey likes to eat it, then the fruit is not poisonous, but i didn't have chance to observe.
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If I were to stroll around in the rainforest that starts at the end of my street I could find a couple of dozen edible looking brightly coloured fruits on the forest floor.Just to them identified would be a struggle and challenging even for a botanist. To know if each is edible no one would know but birds and other animals would eat them.
To pick a random fruit  from rainforest you would have to be very lucky to find out if it is an edible one.

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but birds eat the berries of poison ivy...and mistletoe.

(I know poison ivy isn't edible, but not sure about mistletoe)
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If I were to stroll around in the rainforest that starts at the end of my street I could find a couple of dozen edible looking brightly coloured fruits on the forest floor.Just to them identified would be a struggle and challenging even for a botanist. To know if each is edible no one would know but birds and other animals would eat them.
To pick a random fruit  from rainforest you would have to be very lucky to find out if it is an edible one.
Yeah, I guess we do have to ask in advance to botanists whether the fruit is edible or not.

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but birds eat the berries of poison ivy...and mistletoe.

(I know poison ivy isn't edible, but not sure about mistletoe)
I don't know with Poison ivy.
But the above tips I got from the survival that often goes into the woods.
Means the only animal that can be made as observations is monkey to determine whether the forest fruit is edible or not.

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Those who specialize in wild fruits of an area would have a shot but many can look similar. I can pick about 100 or so local wild fruits here and many are poisonous to people but animals still eat them. Be careful about trying out wild fruits.
If you break it open, show some seeds and flowers then it could be easier to find out what it is.

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Those who specialize in wild fruits of an area would have a shot but many can look similar. I can pick about 100 or so local wild fruits here and many are poisonous to people but animals still eat them. Be careful about trying out wild fruits.
If you break it open, show some seeds and flowers then it could be easier to find out what it is.
Thanks Mike,
I'm not going to eat the fruit as yet I know.
Next time if i find fruit in the forest I will provide more complete information, I will also take pictures of leaves and seeds.

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You can feed it to a pig and observe it over a few days; pigs have a digestive system similar to ours.

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Re: Found the fruit in the forest, but don't know what kind of fruit is this.
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2014, 03:31:09 PM »
You can feed it to a pig and observe it over a few days; pigs have a digestive system similar to ours.
Or rats… most experiments are conducted on rats because they have a brain, circulatory system, digestive system, and cardio very much similar to ours. Either one would work.
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Re: Found the fruit in the forest, but don't know what kind of fruit is this.
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2014, 03:55:23 PM »
I kept a rat for a while, and fed him all sorts of fruit.

One thing I noticed is he would avoid the skin of jaboticaba, and would never eat the seeds.

You can feed it to a pig and observe it over a few days; pigs have a digestive system similar to ours.
Or rats… most experiments are conducted on rats because they have a brain, circulatory system, digestive system, and cardio very much similar to ours. Either one would work.
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Re: Found the fruit in the forest, but don't know what kind of fruit is this.
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2014, 04:07:26 PM »
Wild pigs and rats eat many fruits that are poisonous to us in the rainforest here. I think it is mostly heavy metals,pesticides and animal toxins tested on them rather than phytotoxins.Some of the road kill that pigs eat has to be seen to be believed.Macadamia grandis is one toxic species rats eat as well as cycad fruit and moreton bay chestnuts.Birds eat anything and most small fruit are designed for bird consumption.A rat in captivity living the high life might turn up its snout at some food options.

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Re: Found the fruit in the forest, but don't know what kind of fruit is this.
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2014, 04:27:10 PM »
Wild pigs and rats eat many fruits that are poisonous to us in the rainforest here. I think it is mostly heavy metals,pesticides and animal toxins tested on them rather than phytotoxins.Some of the road kill that pigs eat has to be seen to be believed.Macadamia grandis is one toxic species rats eat as well as cycad fruit and moreton bay chestnuts.Birds eat anything and most small fruit are designed for bird consumption. A rat in captivity living the high life might turn up its snout at some food options.

Now that's funny!

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Re: Found the fruit in the forest, but don't know what kind of fruit is this.
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2014, 05:11:18 PM »
Wild pigs and rats eat many fruits that are poisonous to us in the rainforest here. I think it is mostly heavy metals,pesticides and animal toxins tested on them rather than phytotoxins.Some of the road kill that pigs eat has to be seen to be believed.Macadamia grandis is one toxic species rats eat as well as cycad fruit and moreton bay chestnuts.Birds eat anything and most small fruit are designed for bird consumption.A rat in captivity living the high life might turn up its snout at some food options.

I agree. Looking at what rats, pigs, or even monkeys eat is not a foolproof way to judge whether a fruit is edible to humans or not. I'm sure our distant ancestors used these kinds of observations to narrow down what would be edible, but still a lot of them died experimenting with new foods.
To identify fruits in your native forest best would be to contact a local botanist or local agriculture service. I'm sure you can also get books about the fruits that are definitely known to be edible in your area. If it's not on such a list then it should be treated with caution.
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Re: Found the fruit in the forest, but don't know what kind of fruit is this.
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2014, 10:17:00 PM »
You can feed it to a pig and observe it over a few days; pigs have a digestive system similar to ours.

That's not entirely true. Pigs find cassava roots to be a delicacy and will go out of their way to get it. Uncooked cassava consumption by human will lead to severe cyanide poisoning.

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Re: Found the fruit in the forest, but don't know what kind of fruit is this.
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2014, 10:33:32 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodomyrtus_macrocarpa

Animals especially birds enjoy the Cooktown Loquat and people who have tried them have said they are delicious.They do however have two unpleasant side-effect of which the milder one is permanent blindness.

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Re: Found the fruit in the forest, but don't know what kind of fruit is this.
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2014, 03:33:30 AM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodomyrtus_macrocarpa

Animals especially birds enjoy the Cooktown Loquat and people who have tried them have said they are delicious.They do however have two unpleasant side-effect of which the milder one is permanent blindness.

Not all  uncooked cassava is poisnous. Maybe the current hybrid ones are.We used to eat raw cassava when we were kids.Not even a stomach upset.

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Re: Found the fruit in the forest, but don't know what kind of fruit is this.
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2014, 05:40:41 AM »
Perhaps you are a superhuman than, because cassava poisoning is well know and researched:
http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/cassava.htm
http://www.pyroenergen.com/articles08/cassava-cyanide-poisoning.htm

It killed 27 school children in Philippines after they ate improperly prepared cassava:
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-03/10/content_423641.htm

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Re: Found the fruit in the forest, but don't know what kind of fruit is this.
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2014, 05:50:59 AM »
I believe there are some types of cassava with little or no cyanide.
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Re: Found the fruit in the forest, but don't know what kind of fruit is this.
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2014, 06:06:07 AM »
Indeed - never, ever rely on a "I saw other animals eating it" standard. It's a good way to get you killed, or at least sick.

For some reverse examples, chocolate which humans can consume in bulk is poisonous to most higher animals, while avocado is poisonous to many types of birds, etc. Some are even ironic - for example, horseradish is poisonous to horses.

Update: Concerning cassava, there are two main types, sweet and bitter. Both have cyanide-producing compounds (cyanogens), but bitter has far more (it is, however, a hardier crop).  Bitter cassava can be as much as 0,1% cyanide-equivalent by mass. Neither should be eaten without proper preparation, but bitter can be very dangerous if improperly processed.
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Re: Found the fruit in the forest, but don't know what kind of fruit is this.
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2014, 11:29:53 PM »
The fruits do look edible, but I would also recommend finding out whether animals such as rodents and monkeys would eat them, before you try it.

I once found 'a' single fruit, similar to the one in the picture, on a plant hedge fence, in the city. I plucked it off the tree and ate it. To my surprise, it was rather sweet, juicy and pleasant. I felt at the time some type of euphoria, like if I had discovered something. But, that was in the city, if I had made a similar discovery in the forest, I'd probably have a similar reaction to yours and would not have eaten it either.

I hope you can find out if it's edible and then be able to tell us what sensations you felt after eating it.
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Re: Found the fruit in the forest, but don't know what kind of fruit is this.
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2014, 11:56:33 PM »
Suggestion: if you forward the mystery photos to your local agriculture department they might be able to tell you what they are. Find out who they fruit specialist is in your agriculture department and send the photos to them.
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Re: Found the fruit in the forest, but don't know what kind of fruit is this.
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2014, 07:33:25 AM »
Thanks for your advice,guys.
I'll ask it to the fruit specialist,whether the fruit is edible or not.

 

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