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Hi all. I have three mulberry plants in the ground. Two worlds best that I started from cuttings and 1 dwarf everbearing.

I have heard that cutting these guys back hard in the winter and then after the first crop is done can help spur more fruiting. Unfortunately, my trees seem to only produce a handful of berries at each bud break after pruning, and then proceed to produce tons of vegetative growth, usually as single shoots without branching. I've kept the dwarf everbearing as a central leaderish shape, and the WB more as bushes.

I have experimented with fertilizing one of the worlds best and not the other(Osmocote slow release, 15-9-12 or something I believe) and didn't see much difference. The plants seem healthy.

Any clue why these mulberries aren't loading up with fruit all along the new branches like I see in so many photos? This occurs on both the WB and dwarf everbearing so I'm not sure what it could be. I'm not getting much fruit on either the first set or when I prune afterwards.

I appreciate any help. Also would like to say thanks for helping me get going with tree growing a few years back. We have been enjoying Brogdon avocados for the last 2 months. The first crop of lula avocados is on the way. Starfruit just set and loquats have been great as well. All thanks to your guidance.




The WB are the two bushes on the right of the island in the picture. Ignore the dying tomato.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Thinning first crops once established?
« on: March 13, 2021, 10:41:58 AM »
Hi folks. You all helped me get off and running and I’ve managed to keep my trees alive in central FL.

My brogdon avocado is now about 12’ tall and we got 6 fruit off it last year. My Pickering mango is about 4’ wide and tall but dense, and we let it keep one fruit last year. Since then it has doubled or more in size.

Now that the trees are about established, do I still need to worry about not letting the trees hold too much fruit? Can I let the avocado hold as many as it wants to? I’m also thinking I’ll let the Pickering hold about 5 this year. If both trees can self thin from here out that would be ideal.

I see lots of discussion about mature tree yields or not letting young trees fruit at all, but not much advice on the first small crops and if they should be limited.

Thanks much

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Pruning Carambola
« on: February 24, 2021, 01:29:16 PM »
My carambola has been in the ground for 1.5 years and has grown decently well in that time to be about 4’ high and wide. Its branches are pretty lanky and curved, and there is one about a foot from the ground that grows parallel with the ground. I know I will eventually need to prune away the low branch at least, but am not sure on timing. Should I let the tree have one more growing season and then see how it develops, or begin to shape it now by removing the low limb and cutting back the spindly branches to encourage branching? Just worried about removing too much too early. Cutting off the low branch especially will remove about 1/4 of foliage.

I’ve heard different trees respond differently to pruning when young. For instance, I’ve heard loquats are best to let grow on their own for 3 years or so before pruning and within that time can sort themselves out quite a bit. Have not seen such detailed info on starfruit. Thanks much




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Barbados Cherry Bloom Time?
« on: April 03, 2020, 09:24:23 PM »
Hey folks. I put a barbados cherry in the ground last september and it immediately put out about 50 fruit. When it warmed up this year it put out about 10 blooms with its first flush, but none turned into fruit and the blooming has ceased.

I feel like my first crop may have been a fluke with it just being planted. When do you all normally see your plants fruiting in 9b?

Thanks much.

Edit: While I'm at it, what time of year does starfruit or cherry of the rio grande normally fruit?


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Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Zucchini Help
« on: March 20, 2020, 12:35:20 PM »
I realize squash isn't necessarily tropical, but I'm having a lot of trouble diagnosing this(other forums have been useless) and don't want to lose my plants just as society starts crumbling.

My zukes are in pots and over teh last 3 days have become ill looking. They've got extensive veining and pale sections with yellow edges. The leaves are now becoming thin in spots and dying. I saw the beginnings of this on the smaller zuke a few days ago and went ahead and sprayed an anti fungal solution. They've become worse since. I sprayed neem oil yesterday(all of this in the evening), but things are deteriorating quite fast. This doesn't look like the powdery mildew I've faced previously. Thanks much.










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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Avocado Diagnosis Leaf Rust
« on: February 10, 2020, 12:59:08 PM »
Hi Everyone, I searched and didn't have very much luck finding anything similar to what I'm experiencing. Both my avocado trees have this brown rust on their leaves, originating from the center vein it seems. It doesn't rub off. Doesn't look to be doing a ton of damage but it is progressing and wondered if I should be worrying. The trees are just about to flower and seem healthy otherwise. I did see similar leaf markings on a avocado at a nursery down the street as well.






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Fruit Bearing Bushes for 9B
« on: May 06, 2019, 12:25:43 PM »
I’m hoping to rip out a couple bushes which hide my AC unit and replace them with something that will bear fruit. I’ve already got a cherry of rio grande elsewhere. The other shrubs I can think of are blueberries, blackberries, raspberries, and Surinam cherries. Does anyone have any other ideas for something compact which will grow in 9B? Opinions on good cultivars of the above mentioned bushes would also be helpful.

Much appreciated!

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Howdy. I planted my avocados about a month back and they get pretty much full sun. They've each defoliated about 30-50% and haven't grown since planting. I attribute much of this to transplant shock, but keep seeing where full sun on young trees can be rough on them.

Several questions:
1.) What does sunscald on avocados look like? The leaves are yellowing before falling off but the trunk looks pretty normal even on the north side.
2.) Do I even need to worry about sunscald?
3.) What can I do to prevent sunscald besides painting it white? I am not too big a fan of the ghost tree look. Will brown or green paint suffice?
4.) How long until you guys normally expect a tree to start growing?

Thanks much. The cherry of rio grande, mango, and avocados are all still sitting putfor now but my loquat and muscadine are looking great.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Growing Habit: Cherry of Rio Grande
« on: March 01, 2019, 10:13:46 AM »
Anyone have a good idea how cherry of rio grande likes to grow? The ones I saw in the ground were bean poles, though I have also seen them described as shrubs or bushy trees but without many pictures of mature trees. Can I train them to spread out a bit more? Thanks

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Went Overboard Buying, Help Me Plant Please!
« on: February 24, 2019, 08:37:05 PM »
I spent all winter researching plants to buy come spring for Florida 9B and feel like I settled on a good set of plants. I bought them this weekend.

They include:
2 avocados (lula and brogdon)
Pickering Mango
Cherry of Rio Grande
Loquat
Dwarf Everbearing Mulberry

I am now realizing that I put way more effort into selecting my plants than I did planning on how to plant them and I am a bit overwhelmed with the huge variety of advices given and wanted to run my thoughts by you all since you've been such a big help so far.

Please critique my plans at will. My first big question is, how long can I keep them in their nursery pots before they are in trouble? Some of them are decently big. Loquat is ~3/4" stem with a 1.5 gallon pot.

Avocados- I will plant them in ground in native soil(sand). I have heard building mounds is beneficial, but I do not have a good source of more native soil nearby or a truck. I figure if the trees have trouble I can replant them on mounds later.

Mango- I will repot the mango into a 15" pot until it gets older. I am having trouble finding much information on a good potting soil. Nobody sells Fafard 3B near me. Does a mixture of 1 parts each perlite, vermiculite, peat moss, and sand sound good? I saw someone else say a 1:1 good quality potting soil(example anyone?) and perlite is a good mix as well.

Mulberry, loquat, cherry: These guys are supposed to be pretty forgiving. I'll put them straight in the ground.

As for watering, I am pretty stumped. I don't have an irrigation system. Should I plan on setting up 6 soaker hoses and using each for 30 minutes once or twice a week?

I bought a few bags of shredded fir for mulch.

I realize there is a good amount of information already on the forums but I keep seeing conflicting accounts and am in analysis paralysis at this point. Thanks much.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Advice for an Orlando Beginner
« on: November 01, 2018, 09:02:53 PM »
Just bought a house in SE Orlando 9b and hope to get into fruit tree tending but am stuck in analysis paralysis. I have scanned these forums and nursery websites for the past month but have had trouble finding trends in people's success.

I keep flip flopping between wanting to try tropicals like mangoes and being worried about losing them in a frost/ not wanting to sign up for the effort of protecting them.

My current plans are:
Definitely:
-2 types of pomegranate (looking like girkanets and al-sirin-nar will be good bets. Planting 2 because I really want one to work out)
-2 avocadoes: Here I am really stumped. Reports on what produces here and what tastes good contradict and vary widely. Don't know if I can trust nursery advertisements. MarkfromTexas has scared me off of texas cados like Joey and Fantastic. Contemplating brogdon, monroe, hall, day, winter mexican, lula, lila, etc. Hopefully 2 with a wide maturation period.
-An everbearing mulberry(hard to find info on cultivars)
Potentials:
Mango-Carrie or Pickering in a pot maybe
Muscadine
Loquat- never tried one, worried they may be too sweet
Carambola
Lychee
Peaches-UFl varieties: Have heard these can be tough to grow

Hoping to plant at least one tree which will provide fruit in a reasonably short time to get my spirits up. Looks like loquats may fit that bill.

Please critique at will. I will be eternally grateful. If you have ideas for good references to learn as well I would appreciate any advice.


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