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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Late Mangoes: Beverly vs. Cotton Candy
« on: June 19, 2018, 10:43:59 PM »
1. Does Cotton Candy suffer from black spot or any other major issues like Kent?

2. Which one of these varieties is later?

3. Which one tastes better & the better tree to plant?

Thanks.

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I was hoping to plant a couple LATE season Mango trees. Keitt & Kent along with Beverly were at the top of my list as likely choices.  So I was concerned to see that Tropical Acres now no longer recommends Keitt or Kent for home planting due to newer disease issues. Are the problems really that bad?  We don't have enough good late season varieties now as it is.

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I have found great sources for Mangoes (ie Squam), but are there any places in FLORIDA that have a WIDE VARIETY of Avocados for sale & WHO SHIP.  Acquiring avocado trees isn't my problem.  Finding a place to buy/taste the fruit before planting the trees is.  Squam (Tropical Acres) rules for his massive variety of mangoes - who is the avocado fruit king equivalent? Thanks. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Squam - Tropical Acres Farms Order Review
« on: June 08, 2018, 05:49:26 PM »
Hey All

Just finished off a custom variety box of early variety mangoes from Squam/Alex.   The Glenns, Duncans & PPK's stole the show.  Angie, Rosigold & Dupuis Saigon didn't appeal to to my palate, but your mileage may vary.  Avoid the temptation of eating them a day early and you'll be rewarded with a much better eating experience.  Once again thanks Alex for being a wealth of information & providing a valuable resource we can all enjoy.  Keep up the good work sir.

1. PPK'S (8.0 to 8.25) - If you eat them a day early they're a pleasantly tart & lemony (8.0).  Give them just an extra day & they take on an even better orangey sweeter flavor (8.25).  Wait an extra day for fully ripe - it's worth it.  Excellent Mango that anyone could like.  Not the perfect "10" that some people describe, but still VERY good.  Met expectations.

2. Glenns (8.25) - Great breakfast mango.  Still the #1 best heavenly smelling Mango I know of even before you cut into it. First one I ate I didn't let it fully ripen & it was a bit watery & diluted tasting as other people have mentioned about Glenns.  The other one I gave an extra couple of extra days & it was one of the best mild tasting Mango's I've ever had.  It was like a really good juicy garden fresh refreshing ice cold cantaloupe.  Strong pleasant cantaloupe flavor.  Glenn exceeded my expectations.

3. Duncan (8.0) - What a delightful mango.  Very smooth, juicy & refreshing.  Very enjoyable eating experience & under rated/taken for granted Mango.  Smooth & slightly creamy like it Edward ancestor, with a hint of Asian flavor that wasn't objectionable for those who don't care for most "one note" Asian type Mango (like me). Duncan also exceeded my expectations.

All three of these varieties were top tier & I would highly recommend & are deserving of yard space.




 



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Need help completing Squam Mango Order
« on: May 29, 2018, 12:33:53 AM »
I am doing a custom Mango order of untried varieties with Squam soon and have room for a few more varieties to add.  These are some of the varieties that he has in season that I couldn't find much info on in the forum or net & that I've never had before.  Are there any here that are standouts of say "8" or above on this list?  Not a fan of overly "mild" or "one note" mangoes (Nam Doc). I prefer sweet, tart, complex & full flavored mangoes (Maillika/Carrie/Edward/Dot).  Thanks for any input.

Ah Ping
Dupuis Saigon
Hindi Bessenara
Mario
Peach (Different than Juicy Peach??)
Carabao
Simmonds
Torbert
Wester

I ruled out Falan, Florigon, Jean Ellen & Okrung as they didn't sound like exceptional varieties from what I read. 

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Hey Guys

Planning on adding a few more mango trees and would like input on what the top 3 EARLY, MID & LATE mangoes are for those that don't have unlimited space.  From other posts this is what I came up with.  Since this is about trees and not just fruit - fruiting reliability & disease/cold resistance are also factors to be considered.  I already have a mature Carrie & Valencia Pride.

EARLY

1. Edward (Already a lock in on planting this one)
2. Glenn  (Already a Lock)
3. PPK (Already a Lock)

Mid - Mallika


LATE

1. Venus  (I believe Alex has said this was the all-round best tasting late mango)
2. Keitt
3. Lancetilla, Cotton Candy etc.????

Thanks for your help & suggestions.


PS -  If anyone is ordering Mangoes from Alex, his Edward, Malika's, PPK, Glenn & Duncan were EXCELLENT. 

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Hey guys

I have experimented with trying to grow about 5-6 different common banana varieties over the years here in 9B all with the same results.  They grow fine until the first frost hits and then they are killed outright or at least down to the ground.  Even if they come back there isn't enough time for them grow, flower & mature fruit in the approx. 9 month window between frosts.  Are there any good tasting very fast growing "idiot proof" banana varieties that will reliably produce fruit here in 9B?   I'm sure there probably are, but so far I have had rotten luck with my few attempts with bananas and it's discouraged me from trying again.

Thanks!!

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I have often been told that Washington Navels don't hold their juice & produce quality fruit in Florida due to our hot summers here, thus the reason for Florida navel varieties like Glen, Varn/Varney, etc.  which while okay don't taste the same or as good as a California/Washington navel IMO.  Despite it not being recommended I planted a Washington Navel (which can be found in Florida nurseries) a few years ago just to see for myself.  The tree has been VERY slow growing (even for a navel), but otherwise healthy.  The few fruit it has produced haven't been very good as expected, but the tree is still small.

Has anyone else grown California/Washington navels in Florida and if so what was your experience with them?  Do they taste like store bought Navels or better?  If Washington's truly don't do well in Florida what is the best tasting standard (non-red) Navel variety for Florida 9B - Glen, Dream, Late, etc.?  I have grown Varn Navels before on recommendation and while they were pretty good they weren't "outstanding".

Thanks!!   

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About 15 years ago my highly experienced citrus guy recommended that I try growing an "Oneco" mandarin.  It's an old variety that was developed in Oneco, Florida in the 1800's.  90% of the fruit the tree has ever produced has been very dry & pithy or watery & flavorless.   HOWEVER, on certain RARE occasions the tree has produced a few fruit that were sweet and excellent and tasted like "Sunny Delight" and were equal to or better than a Dancy.  Also "old" nursery descriptions of the fruit describe it as "the flavor is not surpassed by any other mandarin".

Is there anyone else who has grown "Oneco's" and if so what was your experience with them?

Thanks!! 


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I hear a lot of people complaining that their Mango trees haven't set fruit in several years, or their neighbor's tree has fruit but theirs doesn't, or it was a bad year for "Carrie" or some other variety for unknown reasons.  While there can obviously be more than one reason or a combination of reasons I'd be interested what people believe the biggest factor(s) are. 

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A lot of people would love to be able to grow cados (and mangos) 12 months out of the year.  Like Mango's choices for good early spring varieties seems to have few if any good choices.

Are there any good tasting cold hardy (circa 25 degree) Florida avocado varieties that come into season in early spring in 9B, i.e. March/April?  I have yet to find any.  The problem/confusion is complicated by varying ripening times by region, weather or discrepancies in stated ripening times.  i.e. - One well known nursery says Brogdon's ripen Sept-Nov in South Florida on the website, while people who I know with Brogdon's claim it is a summer July-Sept fruit here in 9B.

Thanks!!

 

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I have been growing Valencia's for years for fresh juice, but have also heard the Page Orange (mandarin) is excellent for juice as well.  I have never had the chance to taste a Page.  Question:  Does the Page surpass Valencia head to head in a fresh squeezed juice taste test as a dooryard tree?

Thanks!!

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Seedless Mandarins tho widely grown in CA for awhile, are not as commonly seen in Florida.  Wondering what peoples experience has been with them in South Florida and if they flavor up and stay sweet & juicy in Florida hot summers.  There are some varieties of citrus that perform well in CA, but can be dry & pithy in Florida.

POLL: Best Tasting/Performing SEEDLESS Mandarin for South Florida

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Small Sample of Achacha Fruit Wanted
« on: September 20, 2016, 10:29:49 PM »
Looking to obtain a small sample achacha fruit first before buying a plant.  Will pay any fair price plus shipping.  If anyone knows of a source or where they can be sampled in Florida please advise.

Thanks!!!

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Citrus General Discussion / Key Lime Not Producing in SW FLA 9B??
« on: September 14, 2016, 07:54:19 PM »
My neighbor has a mature 10 year old Key Lime tree.  Contrary to popular belief it has proved as cold hardy as other citrus and has handled overnight temps to the mid 20's here without protection.  HOWEVER, he claims he has only gotten about 2 Key limes off of it in 10 years.

Tahitian limes are very cold hardy, produce reliably and prolifically here in 9B.  Anyone else growing a Key Lime in 9B who can elaborate on how it SHOULD perform here?


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Hey All

Better varieties not withstanding, there are still people who insist upon a Mango with "Haden type" flavor and insist upon a Haden even tho there better varieties that would fill the niche.  Of the mango's listed which comes closest to "traditional" standard Haden Mango flavor?  Really is there any reason to grow Haden if there is a variety that tastes EXACTLY the same with less fiber & better disease resistance?

Fruit quality & flavor is the only consideration for the purposes of the poll.  If you select "other" please list your choice in the comments and I'll add it to the poll.

Thanks!!

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Hey All

I realize beggars can't be choosers when it comes to winter mango varieties, but among those who have had it how would you rate it for flavor?  Same question for Rosigold & Thai everbearing


Thanks!!


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Hey All

I have grown and eaten nearly every popular established seeded Florida mandarin (Dancy, Honeybell, Orlando Tangelo, etc), but want to add a few seedless varieties to my small grove.  There are many out there Kishu, Gold Nuggett, Sumo, etc. , but what would be considered #1 for taste & performance in Florida?

I'm especially interested in varieties that will remain seedless/mostly seedless in close proximity to other citrus trees (grapefruit, oranges, lemons, etc.).

Thanks!!!
 

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Hey All

I have grown pineapples in the past from standard grocery store tops (Smooth Cayenne variety I assume?).  They are incredibly fragrant & much better/sweeter than their original store bought parent whenever I can beat the possums & raccoons to them. I have been hearing about White Jade & White Kona Sugarloaf (edible core) as being the best tasting for years.  Short of ordering one from Hawaii for $25 + $25 shipping or growing one I have no idea if they are as good as some people claim.

My question is how much better is homegrown white Jade & Kona sugarloaf than the standard HOMEGROWN grocery store variety (which is pretty darn good)?  Is Kona Sugarloaf the absolute best or there even other better tasting varieties?

Thanks!!! 

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Hey All

Looking for a good source for Florida Avocados such with a wide variety of choices such as ORO NEGRO, Catalina, Lula, Mexicola and other varieties who will ship small samples in-state when in season.   Will gladly pay for fruit & shipping.  Would like to sample the fruit before planting the trees and would prefer not have to drive 3 hours to do it.

Thanks!!

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Looking for the straight scoop on the best tasting varieties that will grow & perform satisfactorily in Central & South Florida with emphasis on any very flavorful creamy CA or HI varieties that ACTUALLY do well here as dooryard varieties - hype, rumor & hearsay not withstanding.  Most efforts to grow HI & CA varieties would seem to be futile efforts in being able to consistently get good quality fruit.  Supposedly there are a few exceptions, but it's hard to find a consensus of opinion.

May the best variety win.   

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Hey All

I have done as much research as I can and have read all of CTMIAMI's good reviews as well as other input from across the WWW, but still a bit confused if Oro Negro is the best all around GOOD TASTING, COLD HARDY, RELIABLE VARIETY for the FLORIDA dooryard.  I get a lot of conflicting info.  Like most I prefer "CA Hass type" creamy cado's, but can also appreciate a large green Florida cado if it's a good one.

As of right now I already have 5 year old 12' Brogdon & Choquette trees that have yet to fruit.  I have heard Brogdon tastes very good and tastes better than a store bought Hass, but it has issues with a thin skin and is too sticky, creamy & messy to easily peel/slice well.  The only Choquette I have ever tried was pretty bland even by Florida green cado standards - even Carlos/CTMIAMI has said Choquette is bland to him and he likes less oily mild tasting large green cados.  Other than being more cold hardy and possibly a longer season I question my purchase/choice of a Choquette and may top work it to something else eventually.

Right now I have one spot left designated for a 3rd avocado tree in my yard.  Right now I have Oro Negro penciled in for that last spot.  I see some Florida nurseries offering CA Hass, Nishikawa, Utuado, Day, Catalina, Lula, Mexicola/Stewart and some other varieties that have been on my short list at one time or another.    Would like input on whether or not Oro Negro or something else is the best choice for that last 3rd tree spot for SW Florida 9B.    Good Hass "type" flavor & reliable production with a long hang time/extended season is my primary concern as I just need enough for myself and to give some extra to friends & neighbors.

Thanks!!!

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These are all varieties that are "commonly" listed in catalogs & in chat groups as being "the best".   There can be only one "best".  What say you?

GAME ON!!!  MAY THE BEST MANGO WIN!!!

*In the interest of keeping the peace I have added some more varieties.

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Hey all

I'm running low on space for more trees & need to be selective. Need some educated input.

1.  I know Lemon Zest is supposedly the hottest variety going these days, but does it trump PPK for flavor as well as for reliability, production, disease resistance, etc.

2. What is the approximate size, shape, height of the tree?  Carrie size, Glenn Size, Valencia Pride Size?

3. Has the whole LZ vs. OS controversy been ironed out and are there actually two UNDISPUTED separate varieties being sold now?  Most of the comments I've seen on the issue are a few years old.

4. Does LZ trump Edward, Carrie & Maha Chanok for flavor also?

5. For those who have been fortunate enough to taste a "REAL" Orange Sherbet does LZ beat that also (yes I'm sure it's probably a close call)?

Thanks!!


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