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Re: Cambucá and other trees
« Reply #75 on: July 30, 2015, 05:27:01 PM »
E. candolleana is cold hearty, but in the same way a guava is.

so the term "cold hearty" can be deceptive.

even though they're capable of surviving temps of about 25F, the trees will still defoliate they are exposed to chilly temps (even 40F can do it, if conditions are right...being cold and dry, and windy).

E. candolleana is a deciduous species (maybe semi-deciduous in some places)...but the point is, it sheds its leaves readily...so many people assume it's cold damage, when its not the case.

also, the tree will have branch die back, which can be misinterpreted as cold damage, this is  normal in my experience...I suppose it's how the tree naturally prunes itself.

Candolleana not deciduous here.
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Re: Cambucá and other trees
« Reply #76 on: July 30, 2015, 05:52:57 PM »
Yes if it's not seedling variation making leaves larger, it could be low light  levels

Your flowers look like they are a product of dim lighting.

Petals are elongated, and the flowers are sparse

...How are candolleana flowers distinct from other eugenia?  Also, it does seem that different seedlings of candolleana have slightly different flowers.

As a curiosity: Believe me, the same tree can produce slightly different flowers in the same year. I have one small seedling (50 cm tall) that did it in the current winter (when flowered by the first time), but produced zero fruits... I must have the photos in some place... By other side, I have one seedling in 1,80m tall that not flowered until now! Condolleana varies a lot...

To the Admins: I think the discussion and posts about Condollena could be splitted from this, to it´s own thread, since the main subject of this thread verses about cambucá, not about condolleana. The separation will put the place in better organization. Just a suggestion. ;)
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Re: Cambucá and other trees
« Reply #77 on: July 30, 2015, 07:11:31 PM »
The plant is in in nearly full sun with only a bit of dappled shade in late afternoon, to the point that there has been issue with leaf burning earlier in the year.  The plant doesn't flush inside the house.  Drops some older leaves in the spring.  Leaf size has been getting bigger more or less as the plant has gotten bigger.  Leaves on older, lower branches are small and more lanceolate, while leaves on branches near the top tend to be four to five inches in length and relatively wide.

The flowers that bloomed yesterday had their petals gone today.  It's the first I have heard that dim lighting will affect flower size and shape.  Does not seem to be true of citrus or E. uniflora.  What exactly does low light do to flowers?

Seed variation doesn't have enough explanatory power when you have to check against all of Myrtacae, it seems.  I mean, the right seedlings of E. victoriana and M. aureana probably can get a least a double take before closer inspection...

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Re: Cambucá and other trees
« Reply #78 on: July 30, 2015, 08:15:04 PM »
as far as foliage goes, i'm sure the size can be altered by light levels.

i'm not certain, but recall seeing jaboticaba, and eugenias  that flowered under low light levels that had flowers with petals that were much larger than normal.

not sure what else your tree could be...

definitely not myrciaria or plinia...

(smelled some leaves crushed today, they are not really super aromatic, smell almost like apple, with a hint of resin)

The plant is in in nearly full sun with only a bit of dappled shade in late afternoon, to the point that there has been issue with leaf burning earlier in the year.  The plant doesn't flush inside the house.  Drops some older leaves in the spring.  Leaf size has been getting bigger more or less as the plant has gotten bigger.  Leaves on older, lower branches are small and more lanceolate, while leaves on branches near the top tend to be four to five inches in length and relatively wide.

The flowers that bloomed yesterday had their petals gone today.  It's the first I have heard that dim lighting will affect flower size and shape.  Does not seem to be true of citrus or E. uniflora.  What exactly does low light do to flowers?

Seed variation doesn't have enough explanatory power when you have to check against all of Myrtacae, it seems.  I mean, the right seedlings of E. victoriana and M. aureana probably can get a least a double take before closer inspection...
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Re: Cambucá and other trees
« Reply #79 on: August 24, 2015, 02:42:43 PM »
Back on topic about cambucas.. :)
Today, I found this image using Google´s search  :o  :o
http://plant.daleysfruit.com.au/l/the-biggest-pliniajaboticaba1-11833.jpeg

Also found a seller that in thesis sells seeds of this var:
http://www.worldplantsmarket.com/shopdetail/000000001473/

I would love to see that tree and fruit closely...  8)

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Re: Cambucá and other trees
« Reply #80 on: August 24, 2015, 03:16:52 PM »
wow, Cassio, I cant believe it... that fruit looks tasty too, I wonder if it would be good enought
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Re: Cambucá and other trees
« Reply #81 on: August 24, 2015, 05:38:26 PM »
I have giant mulchi seeds for sale. Haven't added them to my web page yet, but will do it soon. I got to taste them in Ecuador. They weren't as big as the ones in that photo, but i'm sure well fertilized trees could produce very big fruits.
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Re: Cambucá and other trees
« Reply #82 on: August 24, 2015, 06:42:04 PM »
how are the mulchi, sweet, sour etc. and are they similar tasting to cambuca.

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Re: Cambucá and other trees
« Reply #83 on: August 25, 2015, 01:44:15 AM »
how are the mulchi, sweet, sour etc. and are they similar tasting to cambuca.

They are sweet with also a bit of tartness.  The mulchi tastes a lot more like achachairu than it does like cambuca. Main problem with mulchi, like with achachairu, is that both have proportionately large seeds.
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Re: Cambucá and other trees
« Reply #84 on: August 25, 2015, 07:04:59 AM »
Hi Oscar!
Can you tell me if this giant mulchi has a tree so big, and takes so much time to fruit, as the cambucá?
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Re: Cambucá and other trees
« Reply #85 on: August 25, 2015, 05:48:21 PM »
Hi Oscar!
Can you tell me if this giant mulchi has a tree so big, and takes so much time to fruit, as the cambucá?
I don't know but will try to find out and post again.
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Re: Cambucá and other trees
« Reply #86 on: August 25, 2015, 07:20:41 PM »
Hi Oscar!
Can you tell me if this giant mulchi has a tree so big, and takes so much time to fruit, as the cambucá?
I don't know but will try to find out and post again.

Years ago I came across a picture of a mature mulchi tree (I can't find the pic again)...it looked like it was easily over 40ft tall.
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Re: Cambucá and other trees
« Reply #87 on: August 25, 2015, 10:28:36 PM »
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Re: Cambucá and other trees
« Reply #88 on: December 21, 2015, 05:51:08 PM »
Last weekend I visited a park in the city of São José dos Campos. There, I found four huge trees of cambucá. I did a short video showing the floor with dozens of fruits that dropped from the tree, but I can´t upload it now. So, here it goes two photos. Me and my son near of two of those trees.




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Re: Cambucá and other trees
« Reply #89 on: December 21, 2015, 05:56:03 PM »
great photos thanks for sharing!

btw, do you know what caused the large wound on the trunk of the tree that you are standing next to?
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Re: Cambucá and other trees
« Reply #90 on: December 21, 2015, 06:02:06 PM »
great photos thanks for sharing!

btw, do you know what caused the large wound on the trunk of the tree that you are standing next to?

Looks like a damage that removed the bark, but I have no idea about what caused this.
But the wound is healed.

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Re: Cambucá and other trees
« Reply #91 on: December 21, 2015, 06:15:17 PM »
The park currently covers an area of 960.160,17m², which was part of the former Tecelagem Parayba (installed at the beginning of the 20th century and now closed), having architectural works signed by the architect Rino Levi (Residence Olivo Gomes, the plant milk and shed seagulls) and the landscaping by Roberto Burle Marx (including existing panels in residence), forming one of the most important works of modern Brazilian architecture, giving the City Park international recognition.

Declared a historic site by COMPHAC, was transformed into Municipal Park in 1996. It has a wide green area with trees which can not be overturned (royal palms, Macaúbas and seafortias).

More photos from the trip...

A Ficus


Jenipapo with fruits









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Re: Cambucá and other trees
« Reply #92 on: December 21, 2015, 06:39:37 PM »
great photos thanks for sharing!

btw, do you know what caused the large wound on the trunk of the tree that you are standing next to?

Looks like a damage that removed the bark, but I have no idea about what caused this.
But the wound is healed.

I was thinking it could be a canker (like a fungal, or bacterial infection), I see people have been carving their initials into the trunk...if someone did this to my tree, I would blow a gasket!
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Re: Cambucá and other trees
« Reply #93 on: December 22, 2015, 06:10:30 AM »
....I see people have been carving their initials into the trunk...if someone did this to my tree, I would blow a gasket!

Yeah, stupid persons are always there, unhappyness...

 

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