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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Advice on training Ross Sapote
« on: September 11, 2016, 01:22:22 AM »
Just a word of thanks to those who advised me (above). My Ross sapote tree is now branching nicely. Branches sprouted an inch or so below where I cut the leader.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Advice on training Ross Sapote
« on: February 16, 2016, 02:38:35 AM »
Thank you for taking the time to share your suggestions. Anyone else with additional tips also appreciated. Mahalo!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Advice on training Ross Sapote
« on: February 15, 2016, 03:28:22 AM »
Hello friends,

Quick question. I grew this Ross Sapote from seed. It's been in the ground around 12 months and has yet to branch. What is the best means of promoting branching? If I cut off the tip at the top will it only branch there? It seems like I would want branching to start several feet down from the top. The tree is currently around 9 feet tall.

Here is a photo of the tree and the original fruit from which I obtained the seed.

Thank you,

Ryan





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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Gray abiu
« on: April 03, 2015, 04:47:52 PM »
If you happen to find a source please post it here. I would love to grab one as well.

A pretty consistent source for gray abiu is Plant It Hawaii in Kurtistown, Hawaii. I purchased one from them today and have seen them there regularly. They also have Z-1 and Z-2.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: carmen hass in hawaii
« on: March 26, 2015, 03:30:14 AM »

How did you get Lamb Hass? I'd like to try growing one.

Hey Oscar, Plant It Hawaii is grafting them. Their next sale is Friday, April 3.

Here's some interesting reading. http://www.californiaavocadogrowers.com/sites/default/files/documents/Lamb-Hass-vs-Hass-Avocado-Are-We-Missing-Something.pdf

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Persimmon in Tropics (D. kaki)
« on: March 26, 2015, 03:21:01 AM »
I planted and attempted to grow a grafted, "low chill" bare root fuyu persimmon a couple years ago (@150' elevation, 90-100" rain annually, Kapoho, East Hawaii). The tree deteriorated and died within a year or so. So, as Oscar pointed out, I wouldn't try that variety again. Paradise Plants in Hilo brings in some persimmon selections each January. I'm not sure, however, that any of them would be suitable for our lower elevations.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: carmen hass in hawaii
« on: March 26, 2015, 01:55:21 AM »
wonder if any one has tried it in a more tropical non So Cal climate?

For what it's worth, I'm growing "lamb hass" here in Hawaii (I'm not aware of the carmen hass variety). It's doing very well. In only two fruiting seasons, it's outperforming every other avocado I'm growing (6 different ones). We're at 150 ft elevation with approx. 100 inches of rain per year. I believe we're in zone 12b.

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So Ryan did you buy the supposed coconut cream mango tree?  Or did still hold it for that grower you mentioned.  I live in kona and would love to get one of these trees.  Sounds delicious.  I guess you had to order yours from a nursery on the mainland?   I see that top tropicals lists the tree for sale on their website.  Who did you order yours from?   

Hi Kona fruit farm, I apologize for the delayed response. Yes, I did purchase the tree. A few days ago, I contacted the event organizer inquiring about how additional coconut cream mangos could be purchased (I purchased it directly from their booth). I was told that it was a one time thing and that no more are available. If I come across more (unlikely), I'll try to PM you here on the forum. For now, it looks like Top Tropicals may be your best bet.

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I appreciate each of you sharing your insight/feedback. The tree had no zill tag, just a hand written name tag. To my knowledge it was the only mango tree for sale at the event, which is predominantly ornamental (though not exclusively). Grafted mango trees sold locally average $50 and this was in line with that.

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Hello friends, I've got 2 questions: Is this the real deal (i.e. coconut cream) AND is it ready to plant out in the yard?

I live here in Hawaii where coconut cream is largely unknown. I have also been on a waiting list for the past 8 months to purchase one online (approx. $180 with shipping to Hawaii). This past Friday I attended a semi annual association of nurserymen plant sale in my area. Amidst 20+ vendors and thousands of plants, I stumbled upon just one tree professing to be "coconut cream mango." It was at the event organizer's booth and they were selling it for another grower who was not present in person. Upon inquiring, I was simply told that the grower had purchased the parent tree from Florida and had grafted from that one.

So what do you think, does it look like the real thing? When scratched and sniffed, the leaves smell citrus like.












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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Robinson Avocado? (Hawaii)
« on: June 08, 2014, 02:15:50 AM »


Re:
http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/oc/freepubs/pdf/EI-12.pdf

Oscar, Thanks, I liked the chart (pg. 4). I think it will help me in my efforts to grow avocados year round. Despite what I was told, I see that there are a few varieties that bear in the same general time period as the Robinson (summer). Do you have any personal preference between Linda, Ohata and Murashige? I'd like one or two more trees that bear at this time of year.

p.s. The last paragraph on page 3 speaks to my earlier observation regarding local commercial/marketplace avocado availability during summer months. According to this document, nearly 1 out of every 2 avocados in production in Hawaii are Sharwil variety (available October-March, per the chart). With only a small minority available in the summer months (Murashige variety, representing 3% of production...available May-July, the tail end of Yamagata in June and the beginning of Malama season at the end of summer - Aug-Dec).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Robinson Avocado? (Hawaii)
« on: June 08, 2014, 01:52:02 AM »

Does the fruit have anything going for it beside being summer bearing?

I guess we'll have to wait and see. Maybe, maybe not. My first fruits are not quite ripe yet.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Robinson Avocado? (Hawaii)
« on: June 08, 2014, 01:41:20 AM »
http://www.avocadosource.com/AvocadoVarieties/QueryDB.asp
Check out this list Robinson is listed.

ScottR,

Thanks very much for the link. It was encouraging to find that someone, somewhere had hear of this variety. Nice to see it in print and read a bit more about it. Thanks!


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Kurtistown, where Plant It is, not exactly low elevation. I think it is over 1500 feet.

If you reread my post, you'll find I specifically stated the tree came from Paradise Plants in Hilo (not Kurtistown). According to a senior staff member, this variety of fuyu persimmon flowered & fruited while in a pot at their store nursery (50 ft above sea level, as estimated by google earth). If that's not low elevation, I'm not sure what is.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Robinson Avocado? (Hawaii)
« on: June 01, 2014, 02:19:06 AM »
Yes, we do grow avocados year round. My experience has been a little different than fruitlovers, in that avocados in the Hawaiian marketplace have been in shorter supply during summer months.

Seeing that nobody else seems to have heard of it, I went ahead and contacted David this evening to ask him for more information on this cultivar. He told me that it's origin dates back 50 years to a gentleman named Art Edwards who was involved in the Hilo Arboretum. David reiterated that it filled a niche in that it produced when other local avocados were in short supply (June, July & August). He also stated that it's production was, as far as he knew, limited to the Big Island of Hawaii. I guess that solves the mystery. Perhaps I'll post updated photos of the fruit when it is ready for eating.

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Two years ago I purchased a "low chill" fuyu persimmon (bare root) from Paradise Plants in Hilo (Hawaii). Planted it at my place (inland Kapoho, 150 ft) and, despite good care, the tree went downhill and died. This was while all the other trees around it were thriving. $50 down the drain. I'd be willing to try again someday. Micah, let us know if you can make some grafted trees to sell from your neighbors persimmon.

Fuyu is not a low chill type of persimmon.

The one I purchased was labeled/marketed as such. Also, the employees stated the same variety had fruited in the pot at their nursery the previous year. In the end, however, it didn't work out for me.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Robinson Avocado? (Hawaii)
« on: May 31, 2014, 05:20:07 PM »
Is anyone familiar with Robinson avocado? A little over a year ago I obtained this tree from one of our island's esteemed exotic fruit grafters (David Frenz, Hilo). He sold me on the premise that this variety bears during certain summer months when few avocados are available. Since that time I've done a bit of searching online and can't seem to find any mention of this variety. I'm posting a few pictures below (including it's first fruits).

Mahalo,

Ryan









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Two years ago I purchased a "low chill" fuyu persimmon (bare root) from Paradise Plants in Hilo (Hawaii). Planted it at my place (inland Kapoho, 150 ft) and, despite good care, the tree went downhill and died. This was while all the other trees around it were thriving. $50 down the drain. I'd be willing to try again someday. Micah, let us know if you can make some grafted trees to sell from your neighbors persimmon. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Salak palm
« on: April 12, 2014, 03:35:34 PM »
Ryan that is Salacca zalacca subs. amboina var. boni or red fleshed Bali Salak.

Mike, Thanks for the info. Much appreciated.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Salak palm
« on: April 12, 2014, 03:41:26 AM »
Here are a couple photos of the red bali salak (fruit & young plant). We obtained a couple palms from Micah (forum member) who, I believe, obtained his from Frankie's nursery. Both of us are growing them at lower elevations here in Hawaii (in my case 150' elevation). Can anyone tell which specific variety this is (Mike T)?






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sugar Cane varieties
« on: April 05, 2014, 12:02:52 AM »

anyone else have any unique varieties?

I've got a couple local Hawaiian varieties. Will try to post photos.

Here are the two Hawaiian varieties I am currently growing. Though uncertain as to the proper names, I call the first one "Green Lake" (for the nature preserve where I found it) and refer to the other as "Hawaiian purple." Native Hawaiians are said to have had 40+ cultivars (100 according to some sources). What I can tell you is that these two are quite tasty.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sugar Cane varieties
« on: April 03, 2014, 12:50:15 AM »

anyone else have any unique varieties?

I've got a couple local Hawaiian varieties. Will try to post photos.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: March 01, 2014, 02:53:27 AM »
Question, is it advisable to plant out multiple varieties of pitaya/dragon fruit within close proximity? I'm new to dragon fruit and preparing to plant multiple vines of the smaller orange and yellow pitaya. In addition, I anticipate planting many of the larger fruited varieties in the near future.
In general, is close enough proximity for cross pollination between varieties a good thing or not? Thanks.

IMO it is a good idea to plant more than one variety of Dragon Fruit within close proximity.  Last year I had red flesh Nicaraguan Dragon Fruit that produced dozens of flowers, BUT... I did not have other flowering Dragon Fruit plants to pollinate it.  When I did, I got good tasting fruit. Cross pollination between varieties is a good thing.

Thanks to fyliu, ricshaw and tanguy for the helpful answers to my question. p.s. We do have Hawaiian hoary bats in the area, though I've never seen one. As advised, I'll plan on planting several varieties within close enough proximity for cross pollination.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: February 13, 2014, 04:01:50 AM »


Question, is it advisable to plant out multiple varieties of pitaya/dragon fruit within close proximity? I'm new to dragon fruit and preparing to plant multiple vines of the smaller orange and yellow pitaya. In addition, I anticipate planting many of the larger fruited varieties in the near future.

In general, is close enough proximity for cross pollination between varieties a good thing or not? Thanks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fiji Farm Report - August 2013
« on: August 10, 2013, 03:54:05 AM »
Awesome farm report, John! Thanks for sharing your beautiful pictures.

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