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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: simon_grow on November 13, 2017, 11:22:52 PM
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Here’s another Truly Tropical video on bud grafting Mango.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HrfKElaaO14
Simon
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Thanks Simon I saw this yesterday too.
I took a few grafting classes with Sal.
Unfortunately I never got my mango buds to take but I never tried top working with them.
Good idea to remove the other buds prior to grafting.
Avocado budding did fine
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I’ve never tried bud grafting mango but I’ve done some other fruit trees with success. This gives me hope and can be especially useful when scion material is very limited.
Simon
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That's chip/shield budding, it can be easily done here in So Cal. I posted some pix here a while back of my LZ bud graft on inter-stock Bombay on Lavern Manila:
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=209.msg229831#msg229831 (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=209.msg229831#msg229831)
Here is how it looks now after pruning post harvest this season:
(https://s17.postimg.cc/wvnyw1zwb/IMG_0277.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wvnyw1zwb/)
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Thera, that’s awesome! Nice growth you’re getting on the Lavern Manilla rootstock. How did your LZ mangos taste?
Simon
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My LZ fruits were like other LZ I've had before, lemony sweet typical of a SE Asian mango. However, my taste buds prefer the original PPK.
Also, my LZ fruits are very prone to anthracnose (Only skin, flesh Ok), see pix below.
(https://s17.postimg.cc/6idoapnkr/IMG_0060.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6idoapnkr/) (https://s17.postimg.cc/m3uzup23v/IMG_0088.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/m3uzup23v/)
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LZ seems to fruit well on Lavern Manilla rootstock but it is picky on some other rootstocks. I like PPK as well and have a grafted tree on Lavern Manilla. Those are beautiful Fruit. Did you happen to get a Brix reading? My fruit were around 30% and tasted excellent. The early Fruit were lower Brix and had a bit less flavor.
Simon
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Thanks for the video. Tried many times bud grafting mango and had 0 success. Will give it another try after watching the video;
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... Did you happen to get a Brix reading? My fruit were around 30% and tasted excellent. The early Fruit were lower Brix and had a bit less flavor.
Simon
No brix reading, I was too excited to try my own LZ fruits!!! For a first batch, the fruits were up to par with what I've tried from mature trees. Original scions from Mike TreesNMore.
And for those who want to try bud grafting mangos, try chip budding and not T-budding. With chip budding, you don't need to wait until the sap is flowing like in t-budding. It can be done any time except when it's cold below 75F here in So Cal. And the graft cut is about as simple as it gets.
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The video has the guy prying open the bark and removing the wood from the bud though. Looks like the bark is slipping at that time. I haven't done either steps when I chip budded citrus. Of course I did it because it was impossible to T-bud at the time, like you said.
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The video has the guy prying open the bark ...
That's the trick of the trade of pro grafters. And as for removing wood from the bud, it's a matter of preference of each grafter as it doesn't seem to increase or decrease the percentage of success either way.
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What does lifting the bark do, other than confirming that the bark is slipping? Does it induce better healing from the rootstock, or maybe suppress the rejection of the bud from the rootstock bark pushing it out?
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Nice video Simon, thanks for sharing.
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What does lifting the bark do, other than confirming that the bark is slipping? Does it induce better healing from the rootstock, or maybe suppress the rejection of the bud from the rootstock bark pushing it out?
Maybe all or non of the above? I have no idea why Sal is doing that, he didn't explain really. Initially, I thought he would insert the sides of the bud under the lifted bark but he didn't. I guess that's why it's called "trick" of the trade. :)