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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Do worms eat rice?
« on: September 08, 2019, 05:38:08 PM »
When he added brown rice it got moldy and was removed- day 60. I am planning a large worm farm as my main fertility source.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sugar apple tree in raised bed?
« on: September 07, 2019, 07:02:26 PM »
  I think I would be more worried that it won't get enough sun.
Yes, but it depends on the orientation of the house and resulting shade.
If this is on the north side of a house you should only consider shade loving plants. Most annuals love more light. Most fruit trees unless they are shade lovers will grow tall and spindly in such conditions trying to find light.
If you want one tree plant it on the extreme outer end and it will grow outwards towards the light you could plant shade lovers back of it. I know of a mango planted directly under a vigorous oak tree. One branch grew horizontal and found it's way out to the sun, then grew up and is making some fruit. So if a tree can find sun it can have it's roots in shade. Here it is:



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I have a 10 year old tree. It is the worst fruit out of 25 varieties I have. Though it has borne some fruit not nearly as much as many others and many of the fruit have had significant fiber and didn't have exceptional taste.
I am considering topworking it or removing to give more room to adjacent trees which make better fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mallika Mango taste!!
« on: September 07, 2019, 06:36:28 PM »
Congratulations growing any mango so far out of zone is an accomplishment with many odds against you. The next challenge will be to overwinter it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Florida Luc’s- Fruit tasted video links
« on: September 07, 2019, 06:27:54 PM »
These are about the same size fruit and seed as Achachairu I have seen grown in SW Florida.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Minimum spacing in bananas?
« on: September 07, 2019, 07:14:03 AM »


These nanas have started to get pretty big since I first stared this thread and are starting to lean a bit.

Does anyone have a suggestion or idea on how to anchor them to the cinderblock wall? Thanks.
I knew they would lean outwards.
Looks good with no need to secure them since they are between the wood and wall. Let them lean out they will touch the wood and be supported.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: California cashews?
« on: September 04, 2019, 10:25:09 PM »
I can see them now. I see the recommended method is direct seeding they can have a strong taproot if done that way.
https://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/hs377

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: California cashews?
« on: September 04, 2019, 06:03:27 PM »
Here’s the progress so far:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/127fWj7SInjN6TJshswIBzGr2BCuitNhS/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hZ0560SIaoN5IGDQvyMmqoVs-MUE4Ya4/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GcSTDlhigRwnOVZQbQcKAZJZygga_Ggc/view?usp=drivesdk
These photo say I need permission to see. Maybe you need to set them to public?

I have grown cashew in the tropics and they are very tolerant of sun. The large reserves in the seed gives them strong growth at first. They grow in very poor soil but can't stand any waterlogging or poor drainage. I grew in #10 cans in a very gritty mix with some compost but mostly quarry fines with almost perfect drainage. Some rock quarries have little use for the fines if you know where an old quarry is they may have piles of it or it may be for sale.
which is coarser than sand

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: what is this plant?
« on: September 03, 2019, 02:06:13 PM »
While I lived in the Caribbean some guys I knew smoked it. They were found crawling in the bushes barking like dogs, but survived. Well, maybe there was some brain damage... :P
Actually I used it as an ornamental, but just let the kids know how poisonous it was it makes attractive night blooming flowers like other datura and was root hardy in zone 6 for a few years.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Batten Down the Hatches....Hurricane Dorian
« on: September 02, 2019, 08:42:20 PM »
I ran across this discussion of Dorian and if anyone wants to geek out he shows a lot of details.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K5L-ezGq4Y

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If you google search permaculture azores you will find some others who have been working in the area.

Nothing says a food forest cannot be in straight lines, or cannot be similar trees like mango in one area.
N/S rows are best for sunlight but if your contour doesn't fit that on sloping land you need to place low plants to the south and taller to the north to take advantage of winter sun.
Part of my place is a one year old food forest with a concentration on 50 mango trees as the dominant fruit trees, in rows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv_0Xf7oIMQ&t=3s

Nitrogen fixers can be low like peanuts, medium like beans, or tall like pigeon pea, leucaena, Inga, or various others.
Carob might do well in your area. I've heard of Tagasaste (Cytisus proliferus) should be a good one for you, native to Canary Islands. I try to stack functions, so that most of the legumes and bananas function as food crops, nitrogen fixers, and mulch producers to build soil.

This is an example of the sector analysis I did for my property taking into account the environmental factors on the site.
Doing this as part of the design process helps.



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What would be the best way to combine these 4 species mono cropping patches within the food forest?
Could I intercrop between them (for example macadamia and coffee), and with other species (such as bananas, etc)? What would be the best tree spacing for these crops? Any suggested varieties for these species?
There are advantages to keeping similar trees together, but maybe advantages to spreading them out.
Yes you could intercrop between larger trees but usually intercrops are chosen as short term like bananas, or shade lovers like coffee.
Your Macadamia would be large in size trees and very long lived so they wouldn't fit into an intercrop scheme as short term or shade lover.
Avocado might be able to tolerate some limited shade and definitely enjoys wind protection.
Tree spacing really depends on variety and I would suggest only planting varieties proven in successful your climate.

Looking at your questions it seems you would benefit from learning the permaculture design process. I did take a class and found it useful because it systematizes the assessment of a site to take account of all the environmental factors, needs and goals, stacking multiple functions in the same space over time, among others. Doing this takes lots of on site observation, researching local knowledge, and developing solutions to problems. You start out generalizing and get more specific as you go along but by breaking down the elements into manageable parts you'll find that many decisions which once appear complicated get simplified. Sometimes constraints end up leading you towards solutions which weren't clear at first.

You should at least look at your most significant crops, mango, avocado, coffee and Macadamia and dive deep into each one. Learn where they evolved, which management of each works best in real life in the Azores. Look at a young, medium and mature planting of each one locally to see what worked and what didn't(always ask the grower what mistakes he made!). The site appears to have established grass. Grass can be good it is natures blanket over soil when cut regularly but that is more suited to ordinary orchard management. A classic food forest is a soil building system which uses the widest variety of support species spaced out over time emulating the succession of species building a self sustaining forest. Yes you can have a blend of both but the established grass can be a hindrance to management or it could be an assest. It would really be beneficial if you could actually go and see the process of a sucessful project likeyou propose in your zone.

This doesn't get into detail but is the best short explanation of what a food forest is intended to be that I know of.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCJfSYZqZ0Y&t
 
 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Gas powered hedge trimmer on a pole?
« on: August 30, 2019, 07:50:24 AM »
Quiet push button electric pole lopper. My dream.
Scroll to 5:00 minutes in to see the action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlIBUsJlnCM

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fire in the Amazon...
« on: August 26, 2019, 10:04:40 PM »
i still think your calculations in hectares are wrong and the fires in Brasil are probably 4-5 times bigger.
My calculations are accurate, and based on the figures quoted in the newspaper, there is a big difference in the case of Bolvia.

I'm not the only one asking why Bolivia is getting a "pass". It turns out that the socialist-dictator-to-be Evo Morales signed a decree legalizing the burning of land in Beni and Santa Clara and others in Latin America are calling him out.

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Evo Morales legalized agrarian burning
A month before the fires, on July 9, Bolivian President Evo Morales approved the modification of the “Supreme Decree (DS) 26075” through the promulgation of DS 3973, which allows burning of permanent forest production lands.
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=https://es.panampost.com/mamela-fiallo/2019/08/25/incendio-bolsonaro-evo/&prev=search

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=https://www.change.org/p/juicio-de-responsabilidades-por-el-incendio-forestal-en-la-chiquitan%25C3%25ADa-para-el-presidente-evo-morales-ayma-y-abrogaci%25C3%25B3n-de-la-ley-741-pdm-20-decreto-supremo-de-desmonte-ds3973&prev=search

They all obediently stand and applaud as Morales signs the order:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbNyO68UifM

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fire in the Amazon...
« on: August 26, 2019, 04:08:38 PM »
Scientists' view - https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/08/theres-no-doubt-brazils-fires-are-caused-deforestation-scientists-say
Your link says:
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Recent data have clearly shown that deforestation in Brazil is on the rise. From January through the end of July, 6800 square kilometers were cleared, according to INPE, 50% more than in the same period last year.

6800 sq. km = 680,000 hectares= 1,680,317 acres
While on Friday it is reported that 800,000 hectares(2 million acres) just burned next door in Bolivia.
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=https://www.paginasiete.bo/sociedad/2019/8/23/incendios-se-extienden-cerca-de-800-mil-ha-en-la-chiquitania-228448.html&prev=search

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nitrogen Fixers
« on: August 25, 2019, 07:47:27 PM »
"A team of University of Florida biologists found, for example, that it was almost impossible to establish the Brazilian pepper in an undisturbed forest."

Humans have damaged the landscape so much.
That was believed true in 1982 by the New York Times.
https://www.nytimes.com/1982/11/27/us/florida-county-bans-3-harmful-exotic-trees.html

Brazilian Pepper even invades and dominates mangroves. To get it out then the mangroves are destroyed. I actually do call it Satanwood. Luckily I'm not allergic and was able to tolerate running it through a chipper. Here I was yanking them out with a small tractor. If you cut them high and use that as a lever they have shallow root systems and can be pulled over in sandy soil. The 12 inch diameter monster at left side of the screen required an excavator.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fire in the Amazon...
« on: August 25, 2019, 07:16:32 AM »
Decades ago Brazilian soils were thought to be too poor to support crops. Mainly this was due to natural acidity and crops which were poorly adapted like corn. Eventually it was found that liming overcomes the acidity and tropically adapted soybean varieties yield two crops /year. After a while this builds up fertility and a rotation with corn, etc is possible. Some farms on these soils have been productive for decades. No question they don't have the ecosystem functions of forest but how many of us would have the things we expect and need if some forests in our countries hadn't been cleared? How much of what we have has come from farming, mining or other extractive land use?

Many of us in developed countries might want to see other countries preserve their resources and not touch their forest lands.
That viewpoint is actually a luxury in part because our own countries previously did exactly the same thing.

For perspective consider also that in the US wildfires consumed 4.8 million acres in 2018 and 3.2 million acres in 58,000 fires this year. Amazon land clearing deforested 2 million acres last year. Yes, we consider that accidental but some were arson campfires or escaped "controlled burns" too.

I think the best we can do is to encourage wise use and a combination of preservation and restoration. Here is a great example in 1200 acres of land which had been clear cut and severely degraded. In 30 years the cosystem has been wisely restored to a point where it is both productive and regenerated, the soil continues to improve, springs which were dry have come back, and he plants trees which could not grow before. Ernst Gotsch has restored, preserved, and shown to others that land in Brazil can be useful as forest along with human occupation. Ironically, nowdays his most used tools are the machete and chainsaw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ST9NyHf09M

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fire in the Amazon...
« on: August 24, 2019, 04:05:20 PM »
And there is another aspect when calling socialist vs capitalists.The socialists did manny mistakes ,but they have the power to revert them back as you see in China right now,whereas the capitalists take the monney,destroy the land and they cant do nothing to restore it after because there is no profit in doing so.
Actually, since forests produce wood which is a renewable resource they are quite profitable and are increasing in the USA, which did significantly deforest and is a capitalist country. My family has operated a sustainable timber farm in Arkansas for over 100 years and 4 generations



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fire in the Amazon...
« on: August 24, 2019, 03:55:07 PM »
I've done some more fact checking. The reported number of fires has been around 74,000. However, the system in Brazil is not able to discriminate between pasture burning and forest fires. Pasture burning is very common and August is the traditional time. So, no one knows exactly how much of the reported number of fires are due to deforestation activities or burning of grassland pastures. In fact, pay close attention to aerial and ground video of the fires and you will see pasture and scrub vegetation being burnt as well as previously cleared land.


The root of this appears to be related to a reported statement by President Bolsonaro in which he allegedly said some groups have been burning to embarrass him. I found that several weeks ago such a group of farmers did indeed plan a "dia do fogo" (day of fire).
here is the inception of the fires as discussed on August 5th:
 https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&u=http://www.folhadoprogresso.com.br/dia-do-fogo-produtores-planejam-data-para-queimada-na-regiao/&prev=search

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This grafted variety is known in the area and was propagated by the nursery which used to own my place. Does anyone have experience with it? I am waiting for this to ripen.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fire in the Amazon...
« on: August 24, 2019, 07:26:10 AM »
This is an intersting subject to me and I do have friends in Brazil devoted to forest regeneration of degeraded land.
One interesting fact which is mostly overlooked is that recent deforestation has decreased a lot in the past ten years, when compared on a longer scale. Compare this graph which ends at 2013 to the one previously posted by giorgosgr which begins in 2013:
https://ourworldindata.org/uploads/2013/11/annual-rate-of-legal-deforestation-in-the-amazon-in-km2-per-year-197788-2013-inpe0.png


So as bad as it is now, on a longer scale deforestation rates have improved.

Ironically, in some pre-colombian Amazonian forests, indigenous small scale agroforestry practices used fire especially in an understory to clear land. This pattern was in certain areas  and not across the whole of Amazonia, but a look at those areas has some important lessons.
The fire appears to have been used in the understory and is believed to have left much of the overstory intact while changing the species composition towards human used plants. Rsearchers can determine what grew by looking at pollen species and abundance. In the mid 1800's- 1920's, there was a rubber boom time in which fire was suppressed to maintain fire intolerant rubber trees. After that time, management includes fire suppression which alters the flammable wood load such that mega fires capable of caopy destruction takes place.
Here is the graphic:
https://www.frontiersin.org/files/Articles/380121/fevo-06-00111-HTML/image_m/fevo-06-00111-g010.jpg

Lastly, while discussion recently has focused politically on Brazil which has the largest forest, 60% of the Amazon is in Brazil. The second largest portion of deforestation takes place in socialist Bolivia and other countries.
This shows deforestation other than Brazil (site has much more data):
https://mongabay-images.s3.amazonaws.com/rainforests/photos/amazon_annual_deforestation_no_brazil.jpg

There is a lot of pressure across the world to make incomes and food for people. There are ways to reforest degraded land which are regenerative of forests. Have a look at what agroforestry can do. I follow their agroforestry techniques closely and am using some of them here in Florida. here is an introductory video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSPNRu4ZPvE&t

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I've had some luck getting Acerola from cuttings but tented the cuttings and had them in full shade a log time. Probably less than 50% success. Agree with Peanut Butter Fruit, seeds are large, have a lot of energy. They respond very well to tipping and every time the shoots grow 3-4 leaf pairs I tip them and get 2 branches. These bear on branch tips so you don't want a tall tree but the most multi-branched compact shrub you can get.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tipping small sugar apple?
« on: August 22, 2019, 07:44:53 AM »
Since you are Zone 9b Florida you have plenty of time to prune back now. The grower should have done the tip/defoliate leaves a long time ago, if for no other reason to save space. I have a few seedlings growing and after one foot of growth began tipping every six inches. If you can keep it in active growth with plenty of light, fertility and water you might get several tippings before dormancy in December/January. Once it breaks dormancy in spring you can start again. Since you said you'll keep in a pot you could protect it from any frost you may get.

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I stumped them and they have quickly sprouted. Some sprouts are getting big enough to start topworking, and I plan to prepare scion wood by tipping and defoliating to stimulate dormant buds. I have access to several mature trees to get the material.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: anaphylactic shock from yellowjackets
« on: August 21, 2019, 06:30:07 PM »
They swelled my face so bad my little girl covered her face, "Daddy looks like a MONSTER!"

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