The Tropical Fruit Forum

I'd have thought after 20 posts in this thread someone would have pointed out the obvious: "Ultra tropical" is a misnomer because "Ultra" means beyond. E.g. Ultra-violet radiation (which is beyond the color violet and is invisible).

The species in question are just pure tropicals, or put in other terms, exclusively tropical. The warmest jungles of Malaysia and Brazil are not "ultra tropical." Reserve that term for artificial setups or perhaps the planet Venus. Species adaptable enough to be grown both in the tropics and subtropics could be considered "trans-tropical."

Bovine, before attempting to improve the forum through these sorts of initiatives, why don't you get the basics right, like using the quote function correctly so that it does not look like an eyesore. Why not correct your post after an obvious editing mistake? Rather disrespectful to other readers.

Mike, that last photo looks to be of Garcinia magnifolia. Did it come from a tree with huge leaves (bigger than G. macrophylla)?

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This is a picture of the true Pouteria bullata from an official source. I doubt anyone that has posted in this thread grows it. The fruit's rind (casca) is supposed to be wine-colored and that is why the common name is Red guapeva (guapeva-vermelha).

I don't think Neles got the ID correct, because Pouteria bullata is not endemic to Minas Gerais.

People need to stop using just "abiurana" as a name. There are 20+ species with this common name, but they all have adjectives in front to differentiate, usually a color.

http://plantsoftheworldonline.org/?q=Acca%20sellowiana
https://bioone.org/journals/Systematic-Botany/volume-44/issue-3/036364419X15620113920608/A-New-Subtribal-Classification-of-Tribe-Myrteae-

Probably one of the more popular restorations in recent taxonomy...

As for Acca (Dacca) it's TNT - Dynamite for its most famous member, but not quite Highway to Hell just yet since there is still Acca macrostema & lanuginosa.

Updated the title of the post,
Just let me know when the species name has been decided and approved

The Artocarpus taxonomy revision paper was published today. Such papers are purposely put in open-access journals, as the authors believe taxonomic changes to be important enough that the wider community has access and that the adoption is contracted rather than drawn-out (resulting in more confusion). As was anticipated, Kwaimuk or Gwaimuk (formerly Artocarpus nitidus subsp. lingnanensis) was renamed to Artocarpus parvus. I should repeat that it was NEVER A. hypargyreus, so those wanting to "keep this name" because they are "used to it" need to comprehend that this was a case of mistaken identity.

I have already made a thread on true A. hypargyreus, with photos, so you can find that if you are interested. But the gist is that nobody has it in cultivation. It is indeed called something like "white kwaimuk" transliterated from Cantonese, but it is not related (in the same clade) to kwaimuk. There are some other important changes mentioned in the paper.

A. nitidus subsp. nitidus was renamed to A. lamellosus. It is endemic to the Philippines and its common names are butong and kubi (Tagalog).

A. nitidus subsp. humilis was renamed to A. humilis. Common names are Beruni and Selanking

A. nitidus subsp. borneensis was renamed to A. borneensis. Common names are Tampang, Beruni and Selanking

A. nitidus subsp. griffithii was renamed to A. griffithii. Common name is pizhenye kwaimuk, which transliterates from Chinese as "lancelote-leafed kwaimuk"

The paper didn't really cover common names, that was my own addition, though I wish they had. I am of the personal opinion that "kwaimuk" should be one word. The fact is there is no standard of how pidgin Chinese is brought into Western languages. But basically writing kwai muk is the same writing ly chee or long yan. And it is actually gwaimuk properly transliterated, alas this isn't a big deal and is probably too late to correct.

You will find a lot of photographs and species-ID keys in the paper. But this paper just concerns the subgenus Pseudojaca, so all of the jakfruit, breadfruit, marang, pedalai, keledang et cetera are not included (they continue to have their same binomials).

As for when the proposals will be "approved" there is no official measure of this, though it should be mentioned that the lead author Dr Elliot has done most of the annotations for Kew's herbarium, and so the database POWO should be updated to reflect the new names soon. In a couple of years Flora of Singapore Moraceae will come out and the system will be included in that. If someone is a member of the Artocarpus group on FB, please post this paper there. The paper can be downloaded from: https://www.nparks.gov.sg/sbg/research/publications/gardens-bulletin-singapore/-/media/sbg/gardens-bulletin/gbs_72_02_y2020/72_02_06_y2020_v7202_gbs_pg173.pdf

People might be interested to know that there are 20 recognized "metallica" species, perhaps my favorite being Aloe (not alloy) metallica, whose anthem could well be "Don't Tread on Me" or "Harvester of sorrow" but not "No leaf clover."

Heavy metal rival "Anthrax" surprisingly has a namesake with the Colombian orchid Pleurothallis anthrax, which I can only assume is a host species for the fatal bacteria.

M4 sounds like it could be the arterial motorway of most major cities. And driving on such a road you might encounter a BMW M4. Now that is no lemon, whereas the French manufacturer Citroen I assume are in the business of producing lemons.

Enough of these robotic code names please, R2E2 reminds me too much of Star Wars.

A Floridian using the term "Autumn" instead of "Fall" - now that surprises me... or is that just Southern separatist psychology?

I always thought that the Chinese dentist by the name of Dr Han who was executed because of the mango should be honored in some way. The story goes that a box of mangoes was a diplomatic gift from the Pakistani president to Chairman Mao. Dr Han got a glimpse of a mango, and while the public at large were in a religious mania about the exotic fruits, he merely commented that it was "nothing special" and "looked like a sweet potato" - for which he was promptly accused of being a "counterrevolutionary," tried, found guilty and taken to the edge of town where he was shot. https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35461265

Early Red Loquat is a cultivar of loquat that was bred over a century ago by Taft in Orange California. It apparently had fruit ripening in late January or early February. However that is not the full season I don’t think, because I found a nursery in Orange, CA that says the fruiting window is Feb to April. I'd like to know if anyone is still growing this heirloom and what the fruiting season is for you.

Edit: Sorry guys, I can't find the nursery anymore. I was browsing this a few days ago, perhaps I falsely remembered GA as CA... Willis Orchards has it.

The name Beach cambuca completely dominates in the English speaking world because whoever the first person was went with that name and then everyone copied him. So there's the answer to your popularity contest. You will find the name Beach cabeludinha (Cabulinha da praia) somewhat used in Brazil (http://www.colecionandofrutas.com.br/myrciariastrigipes.htm) though it takes a back seat to cambuca da praia. Old habits die hard. It must date back to a time when really few Myrtles were known about.

I highly doubt that there are two cultivars of "Branca" jaboticaba. Someone must have shortened "Branca vinho". Ask Adhemar Gomes in Casa Branca (whoops there's another Branca). A mistake was likely made outside of Brazil. You are right to notice that P. aureana and P. phitrantha are considered the same species by official taxonomy.

This photo is from California Tropical Fruit Tree Nursery, allegedly of the cultivar Vista White. Surely this is digitally altered and Akme's photos are correct. I don't understand how any nurseries could upload photoshopped images.

Yes, I will third that.

I think Adam has finally found his feet and is churning out good content that is pertinent to the topic at hand.

But things were a little piloso a while back. He was dabbling in all kinds of side-entertainment and political commentary, also encouraging people to bet money on Hillary to make a surprise return to the presidential race.

Stay focused, you homesteading hombre, and you can't go wrong. Keep your eye on the olho do boi, and your gift of the gab on the jab.